Please don't nerf DS.
It is the only way solo survivors have a chance 
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only bad players have to rely on DS to survive
what does that make you?16 -
@yeet said:
only bad players have to rely on DS to survive
what does that make you?Real players use No Mither and have their run button permanently pressed down.
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Actually the most skilled rank 1 players use DS. We also use purple flashlights
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Who is it? There is a leaderboard and didn't knew it?Imwrathan said:Actually the most skilled rank 1 players use DS. We also use purple flashlights
Still, I always think get carried to rank 1 using DS its sad. Still not an excuse to not consider DS as a cheap get out of the jail for free card and I you need that to survive you also need to get good
Without DS (Laurie lvl 1 forever) I can survive just fine hiding an looping2 -
DS doesnt need a nerf but it needs a rework. Maybe performing a secure unhook to activate the perk just like Adam Francis perk works.Imwrathan said:It is the only way solo survivors have a chance
That way first survivor to be downed and hooked could never use it and the killer could apply some preassure on the team. (Assuming he doesnt camp)0 -
I would use I if they rework it giving just a stun to wiggle and extra 2s. Thats all I need, right now feel just cheap hit an easy skill check and get to the nearest looptt_ivi_99 said:
DS doesnt need a nerf but it needs a rework. Maybe performing a secure unhook to activate the perk just like Adam Francis perk works.Imwrathan said:It is the only way solo survivors have a chance
That way first survivor to be downed and hooked could never use it and the killer could apply some preassure on the team. (Assuming he doesnt camp)
Tried it few times after purchasing the dlc, its just stupid. for me Laurie will stay level 1 until they won't rework it. Whoever say its an hard skillcheck or its needed to survive its lying or not experienced enough0 -
You're honestly a bad player if you need DS. The majority of my hours are as a solo survivor without DS and it really isn't that tough to escape and even less so to rank up. The vast variety of streamers I watch also seem to have no trouble without DS.
It's certainly helpful, I can see that, but it is far from a must have.
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Imwrathan said:
Actually the most skilled rank 1 players use DS. We also use purple flashlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA
Sounds like someone can’t loop.Post edited by SnakeSound222 on0 -
Would be a shame if DS would get nerfed and all those survivors couldnt run at rank 1 anymore without their crutch
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The problem with DS is, it is a FORCE MULTIPIER.
Bad player do not get much out of it. They either can't even hit the skillcheck or get downed again pretty fast.
Good player on the other hand gain a HUGE advantage from it. They hit the skillcheck anyway, even when affected by madness and UP, and they are hard to catch in the first place, either they can loop like crazy or even lose the killer and heal up again.That's the flaw in the whole design of the perk.
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another issue what the post pointed out is that DS is a solo survivor perk, and actually it: a perk where a survivor escape the grasp of ALL BY HIMSELF without someone either flashlight, palettslam or bodyblock. he gets out by himself allowing his teammates to not give a (%#@&
and proceed with objectives... that also a big issue with DS killers have to face as how DS stands of today1 -
I would say reduce the Stun time to killer from DS that fair enough...
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@Larcz said:
Vorg said:I would say reduce the Stun time to killer from DS that fair enough...
By the devs logic use perk Enduring from billy.
Check this out:
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@Imwrathan said:
It is the only way solo survivors have a chanceNo, it isn't.
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Nerf DS but also nerf Nurse and Spirit. 4 ppl using DS will still all die against these killers, especially nurse, especially a nurse with 3 blinks. There is no real way to counter spirit's power. even if you use iron will the spirit can still hear footsteps. she can hear you but you cannot hear where she is, how is that fair? Spirits can just spam their power until the get lucky. What I mean by this is that she has so many mindgames that it is impossible to win every single one. She can use her power or she can fake using it, she can pretend to vault something but not actually do it, not to mention her passive phasing which makes it really difficult to tell when she changes direction. Before you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about because I've "never played spirit" please provide some solid perk counters for her. Huntress and Hillbilly are the only balanced killers.Post edited by WhiteAqua7 on0
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@WhiteAqua7 said:
Nerf DS but also nerf Nurse and Spirit. 4 ppl using DS will still all die against these killers, especially nurse, especially a nurse with 3 blinks. There is no real way to counter spirit's power. even if you use iron will the spirit can still hear footsteps. she can hear you but you cannot hear where she is, how is that fair? Spirits can just spam their power until the get lucky. Huntress and Hillbilly are the only balanced killers.Have you ever played Spirit?
Are you aware that she can NOT actually SEE anybody while phasewalking??3 -
I guess he doesn'tWolf74 said:@WhiteAqua7 said:
Nerf DS but also nerf Nurse and Spirit. 4 ppl using DS will still all die against these killers, especially nurse, especially a nurse with 3 blinks. There is no real way to counter spirit's power. even if you use iron will the spirit can still hear footsteps. she can hear you but you cannot hear where she is, how is that fair? Spirits can just spam their power until the get lucky. Huntress and Hillbilly are the only balanced killers.Have you ever played Spirit?
Are you aware that she can NOT actually SEE anybody while phasewalking??
He wants killer to be punished if they hear people footsteps and bring back the spirit old phasing sound, which has been removed for a reason (oh it's spirit, she's there I'm fine)
Spirit can spam her power.... Sure buddy, he actually never played spirit2 -
Are they planning to nerf it? How so?
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@Imwrathan said:
It is the only way solo survivors have a chanceI've been thinking about this and the main problem with DS is that it's an obsession perk, if it wasn't an obsession perk and considered a free escape always requiring wiggling to activate then it would be substantially weaker and just give killers a notification like Boil Over.
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It doesn't do that much for the individual user except in certain circumstances.
Its what it does for the team though that makes it overpowered.1 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EitZRLt2G3w