######### is wrong with BHVR?

SmokePotion said:

@Orion said:

@SmokePotion said:
I bought this game. Once it's on my computer it is my property.

You bought a license to play the game. Don't sign contracts (like the EULA) without reading them.

They still need to inform the players of changes to the game. why are you defending this practice?

@EntityDispleased said:
Technically it's BHVR's property since you are using it under their rules. If you happen to cheat or break the rules they can kick you off their property.

Not really. In fact their anti-cheating, since it takes place on servers that aren't theirs, is in a legal grey area too. Again,k why are you defending the lack of communication? do you enjoy them changing your killers and survivors without tellign you, and you have to figure it out in game? Is that why you gave them money?

SmokePotion said:

@Orion said:

@SmokePotion said:
I bought this game. Once it's on my computer it is my property.

You bought a license to play the game. Don't sign contracts (like the EULA) without reading them.

They still need to inform the players of changes to the game. why are you defending this practice?

@EntityDispleased said:
Technically it's BHVR's property since you are using it under their rules. If you happen to cheat or break the rules they can kick you off their property.

Not really. In fact their anti-cheating, since it takes place on servers that aren't theirs, is in a legal grey area too. Again,k why are you defending the lack of communication? do you enjoy them changing your killers and survivors without tellign you, and you have to figure it out in game? Is that why you gave them money?

You're not entitled to it so move on

You must be new here. 
Behavior always acted like this.

Welcome to gaming. You have no rights after signing EULA.

A streamer just had his entire Origins game library wiped for streaming a beta under nda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFOXWbeOEo

@ChesterTheMolester said:
MCote said it on Twitter that it'll be released on the 11th.

Source / Link?

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Ay sir, let's sit down for 20 minutes and read this before starting to play. Hopefully I don't fall asleep 

It's an NDA. People can and do go to jail for violating them. If playing games is more important than reading the rules to which you're agreeing to under (a potential) penalty of a prison sentence, then you've got your priorities backwards.

SmokePotion said:

According to people, the new DLC releases tomorrow. On a Tuesday... Weird enough.

But they also haven't given us any announcements to that fact. One guy found something on a small game news site. And that seems to be what everyone believes.

What's wrong with BHVR? This is a big drop. One they announced at the game awards. But with 0 information on when it would be available.

Add into it they regularly patch this game without telling us what they patched. The term "Shadow Buff/Nerf" gets thrown around a lot. That's a serious problem. Legally.

I bought this game. Once it's on my computer it is my property. they are changing my property without notifying me 1: that they are doing it and 2: what they are actually changing. This effects the use of my property..

BHVR needs to step up their communication.

It's legal trouble for them to change the way their game works and not notify you of every detail, even though they talk about changes beforehand and release patch notes? Ok...

Skorpanio said:

@Might_Oakk said:
Welcome to gaming. You have no rights after signing EULA.

A streamer just had his entire Origins game library wiped for streaming a beta under nda.

Who tf reads a 20paged EULA though?
Not saying it's 20 pages but my god, do I really have to read through all of that? Why not just a half #!"/ page with clear words?

Don't tell me, I do know why.
Just think it's a bit ridiculous...

Because people like to find loopholes just to get around things. So they have to put every detail in.

Also, who tf streams a beta without looking into if its NDA covered or not?? Lot of beta watermark your screen to ensure you dont get away with it.

@Ghost_Potato said:

@not_Queen said:
Hello @SmokePotion

I am taking the time to clarify a bit on the questions / feedback you have:

• We have been releasing on Tuesdays since the Year 2 anniversary and the introduction to our new roadmap. It is normal players will assume a release is planned on Tuesday.
• We are not announcing dates for multiple reasons, specifically because we have exclusivity engagements with partners. These are legal bound contracts and we have to stick to the release schedule.
• We release information on changes / patch notes every single time we patch. If you are interested, they are published in your news pop-up (in-game) as well as the official forums.
• You bought this game and by doing so, you bought a revocable license.

From the EULA

• BHVR hereby grants to you a limited, personal, nonexclusive, nontransferable, non-assignable and fully revocable license to use the Game and any Content therefrom for your individual, non-commercial, entertainment purposes only.
• From time to time, BHVR may provide you with updates or modifications to the Game. You understand that certain updates and modifications may be required in order to continue the use of the Game.

The way that reads then Twitch is not allowed either for "non-commercial" use. Just saying!

Nope. Twitch is entertainment. Donations are just that - donations. You don't have to pay to watch, last I checked.

@SmokePotion said:
According to people, the new DLC releases tomorrow. On a Tuesday... Weird enough.

But they also haven't given us any announcements to that fact. __One guy__ found something on a small game news site. And that seems to be what everyone believes.

Woo, made it big time!

"On a Tuesday" you realize for years and years now movies and games are nearly almost always released on a Tuesday?

Also, you own DBD. Why are you complaining to use then? Tell those Devs what you want in the game or else fire them!

@SmokePotion said:

@not_Queen said:
Hello @SmokePotion

I am taking the time to clarify a bit on the questions / feedback you have:

• We have been releasing on Tuesdays since the Year 2 anniversary and the introduction to our new roadmap. It is normal players will assume a release is planned on Tuesday.
• We are not announcing dates for multiple reasons, specifically because we have exclusivity engagements with partners. These are legal bound contracts and we have to stick to the release schedule.
• We release information on changes / patch notes every single time we patch. If you are interested, they are published in your news pop-up (in-game) as well as the official forums.
• You bought this game and by doing so, you bought a revocable license.

From the EULA

• BHVR hereby grants to you a limited, personal, nonexclusive, nontransferable, non-assignable and fully revocable license to use the Game and any Content therefrom for your individual, non-commercial, entertainment purposes only.
• From time to time, BHVR may provide you with updates or modifications to the Game. You understand that certain updates and modifications may be required in order to continue the use of the Game.

I'm not saying you can't make updates. I'm saying it's your legal responsibility to explain, in detail, your updates to the game.We should not have to find out about changes by playing and being surprised by them. You do not list all the changes in your patch notes.
And this post seems to have taken a hard turn somewhere, since the main point of the post is that you, as a company, do not communicate very well with your playerbase One of the points is patch notes. The other was things like the new chapter release date not having any space on the official site or forums, and instead requires people to hunt down the info.

Here's a third one, the news on the main site is still the summer BBQ info.

The TLDR of it all is that you guys, at least to me, are putting out a very unprofessional vibe.

Stop, it's very clear you have no idea what you're talking about.
They have no legal obligation to tell you anything, even more so for an update that isn't even out yet. Stop being so entitled.

@MhhBurgers said:

no just pointing it out because I'm sick and tired of ppl wanting other people to act decent, respectful and want them to take responsibility for what they're doing. That is not the way we should grow up in the west.

LOL, what? That is exactly what human beings should be learning. Nice Troll post.

First thing. No sadly with alot of games now a days you dont own them. They are "licensed" to you which means they can do whatever they want with it no matter what. You know that EULA you agreed to or couldnt play? yea. Thats what that is.

@MisterCremaster said:
I miss my LoL button...

@fcc2014 said:
We need the "LOL" button back.

There problem solved.

To all the legal know it alls saying the EULA/TOS aren't valid go ahead and violate either one and see what happens No cout in the world has so far ruled in favor of any of the people that've tried the nonsense that's being spouted and won.

Also it's not that hard to read the fine print pretty quickly to make sure what your rights are and what the game companies are.