Until the Dc penalty is back I am refusing to play your game
My last 10 games survivors and killers keep dcing when they match isnt going their way and its causing my rank to somehow depip even tho i was doing something and not being idle. I dont know if its players crashing or purposely leaving the match so im not going to bother any longer until the penalties are back on the table. Thanks for the fun times Bhvr it was fun while it lasted and i truely hope your programmers get it fixed asap. Peace out
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Ugh, no. The dc penalty was the worst thing they ever added to this game.
Why make fun and interactive killers or fair maps when you can half ass it and strongarm players into staying into matches they aren't enjoying.
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Why are you playing if you don't enjoy the game?
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For the most part I do still enjoy the game. I just think most of the new content like killers/maps added in the last year just aren't really fun to play on or against. It feels like they're out of ideas and just phoning it in.
I don't DC as killer ever but if I get Hawkins or something against some insecure spirit with stacked slowdown I'm just going to boot up another game for the day.
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Hmm yes, another person trying to make an excuse for leaving 4 people to have a bad game because they didn't like how it was going for them personally.
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And you have now in turn ruined the game for the killer and your teammates, players like you are why we want the dc penalty back.
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Damn, maybe the developers of an online only game with no joins in progress should have designed some sort of failsafe system for that.... like the bots... that have been in the mobile version for a year.
All DC penalties do is punish the quitter, it does nothing for the players still in the game. So it doesn't really matter either way, people will DC regardless anyway.
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If DC penalties don't matter, why are you against them being reinstated?
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While I’m not against adding them back it is a lazy solution. Better way to fix it is to match make leavers with other leavers
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I'm for both, simultaneously. Make leavers wait until they can join another lobby, and then pair them up with other leavers. It'd be hilarious.
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I'm sorry where do y'all see that? I play decent amount of time and don't see single dc or maybe one in 10 matches
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Or at least rework it for the game to detect a real DC instead a technical issue
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So, I typically try to play through anything, sweaty spirit, face camp Bubba, Tinkered Blight, All seeing Wraith, ect.
But if I get tunneled and left slugged on the ground on death hook, I'm out, I'm dead.
I'm not going to lay around so you can try to draw out the 4k.
If you give me a DC penalty, I'll just log off and watch memes for a little bit.
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This incredibly selfish mindset is why people hate our community
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This thread's replies is a perfect example of why we need the DC penalty.
If you can't accept that you might go against a Killer you don't like, a perk you don't like, or you may lose; do everyone a favor and play something single player.
Bloody tired of DCers thinking they have some divine right to ruin everyone's games because no one matters in their selfish world but them.
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i partially agree with this. i think as long as the game is full of extremely unfun killers/maps/perks a player shouldnt be forced to put up with behaviour's ######### game design. If they ever fix the game, they should add it back.
"but who decides if the game is fixed and if a killer is unfun?"
a balance team of competent players hired by behaviour, just like every other major game company has.
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Rofl. 'Fun' is subjective and not an excuse to DC, dude.
I don't find RTS games fun; does that mean I can quit every match of Star Craft 2?
I don't find Bastion in Overwatch fun; can I quit every match where someone picks him?
You can not claim 'DCing is okay until BHVR makes EVERYTHING fun!' because that cannot happen. Fun is subjective.
On top of that; people, being selfish jerks, will ALWAYS FIND AN EXCUSE TO DC.
If people can't be mature enough to accept that their opponent does not need their permission to do anything; then they should not play PvP games. 🤷♂️
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It's funny because it's the person with the spirit profile picture complaining about the dc penalty lol
On a serious note, I wish they'd let you dc once a day, and from there you'd start getting the penalty. That would also help people who were kicked of the match for a game/connection problem.
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You do get a freebie for real-life emergencies, but it's not once per day. Nobody knows when the timer resets.
The best way to avoid the DC penalty is to not DC.
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'On a serious note, I wish they'd let you dc once a day'
No. On steam alone, going by users in match right now; that's an allowed 77,407 DCs a day. Imagine if you run into a Killer who DCs because 3 gens pop. Then another Killer who does the same thing. Then another Killer who DCs once the exit gates are open. Then you have 2 SWFs who DC when one of them is hooked..
The DC penalty needs to come back, ASAP. And no 'one free DC' stuff.
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Clearly missed the reason why I said "one dc"
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If you're not enjoying the game, you should maybe not play it instead of joining a lobby and then ruining the game for four other players when you bail instantly because something in the match landed on your extensive 'I personally don't think this is fair' list.
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The DC epidemic is kinda embarassing. The lack of a DC penalty really showed why it is needed.
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Holy, why does this have 11 upvotes? Seriously? Are people in this community so egocentric they feel it's ok to waste the time of 4 other players because you don't like something? Go play a single player game, please.
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Nothing is more fun than ruining the game for 4 other people by disconnecting, haven't you heard? Why do anything about that or toxic players with a functioning report system, when you can simply encourage your terrible community to be even worse? After all, all that matters is you. You are the center of the universe and you are all that matters, so if you aren't having fun you should leave, right?
I'm just going to make excuse after excuse to justify my terrible behavior because I'm a terrible person :)
You know at least long survivor queues and the DC penalty made people DC in far, far less numbers. Now we're back to the point pre-introduction, where you're likely to get one every game, or every other game, because you're playing literally any killer in the entire game. I mean we've reached a point where you can go to any survivor streamer and all you're going to hear is how any killer that isn't an easily looped killer is "boring" Why don't we just make the game only 100% fun for survivors already
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You do understand your team mates get ######### over as well right ? Your team mates who are actually trying to climb getting completely ######### over by babies who can't deal with getting caught first who just rage quit and ######### over everyone on their own team who might be actually working hard for their pips and isn't willing to just sacrifice 4 of them like you seem to be able to.
There is nothing a killer can do in a game that compares to the toxicity of your team mate dcing.
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First off - you realize it's explicitly against the rules to disconnect deliberately, right? Like, I can report you for doing it if you pull the plug in a game I'm in. It's listed under one of the Unsportsmanlike categories. Mods delete posts that admit to disconnecting at will. And it's this way because if people were allowed to disconnect when they didn't think something was fair.. this is an asymmetrical game. One side having fun - making successful plays, outwitting or cornering/losing their opponent - comes at the frustration of the other side, who is getting outplayed and losing their interaction. Add in that some powerful strategies (camping/tunneling/slugging/3-genning for killers, looping/bodyblocking/saboing/flashlighting for survivors) are very annoying to have successfully used on you, and it becomes difficult if not impossible to complete a match when the other players can and will disconnect because they're losing or they don't like the way you're playing the game.
'Unfair' is extremely subjective and horribly abused. Everyone has their own little rulebook of how the game is allowed to be played, and it's not going to line up with everyone else's. So no, that's not a criteria to leave. You say it's fine as long as something has counterplay? I meet plenty of survivors who think Wraith, Nurse, and Hag don't have counterplay. Devour Hope doesn't have counterplay. Ruin/Undying doesn't have counterplay. NOED doesn't have counterplay. Then there's killers who rage because Dead Hard doesn't have counterplay, Borrowed Time doesn't have counterplay, and bodyblocking doesn't have counterplay. Lots of people think they're more experienced and objective than they are. Oh, and let's not forget the people who disconnect because it wasn't fair they got a latency hit and went down 5 feet away from the window. That's nobody's fault but the servers; the killer didn't do anything wrong.
The game is horrible to play right now. I've net-gained a grand total of 5 pips as survivor since the rank reset because so many games, my teammates are just noping out instantly when they see Ruin/Undying or Spirit or Wraith or Hag or Midwich or RCPD or Coldwind or get found first or get downed first or whatever. And in games that do turn out well and all four survivors work together the way they're supposed to, I keep getting killers that pull the plug. I signed up to play the game and I would rather not be paired with players who aren't going to do that because they decreed that something in the game is unfair.
I'm all with @Phasmamain here - all of you disconnecter-defenders should get paired with other serial disconnecters. It's totally harmless and justified behavior, isn't it? I bet you'll have a lot of fun playing with and against like-minded individuals.
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Honestly can't wait for the penalty to come back so all the children can be put in a time out and we can get proper matches again.
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Seeing people defend having no dc penalty makes me physically ill. Talk about entitlement.
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Spirit icon. I wonder why they DC'd in your games...
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You think they DC because of a profile picture on a forum?
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AHAHAHAHA!
'If you aren't mature enough to accept that your opponent does not need your permission to dc from an unfair match; then you should not play PvP games'
That's like saying 'If you can't accept that someone can punch you in the face; don't be around people'
I don't have to accept toxic DCers; they have to accept the rules, which includes not DCing. Just like I don't have to accept being assaulted; they have to accept that there's laws against being assaulted.
But sure; I have to be 'more mature' and accept people ruining my game. Wow, you're entitled. Do everyone a favor; play single-player games.
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I think they probably just don’t take the idea of disconnecting as seriously as you guys do. No need to feel physically ill, it’s a fairly trivial difference of opinion and the penalty will come back.
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Be thankful you can play at all right now
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If you don't trust anyone in particular to define fairness then who decides that dcing is unfair? and who decides it is more unfair that using keys/spirit/insert obvious [BAD WORD] mechanich here?
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Cute that you think you have a better say on the rules than the devs who made the game.
you will DC against Spirit and Slinger because you're too lazy to actually lean to beat them. Anything you say is just an excuse to avoid facing your own toxic attitude.
Enjoy your free DCs for now; I'm going to laugh so hard when the DC penalty comes back and you either have to face those Killers or get timed out for ruining everyone's game.
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Yeah killer queues aren't long enough you tell him
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As its gotten a bit out of hand, I am going to remind everyone to keep things civil and respectful.
And a reminder as well the endorsement or encouragement of Unsportsmanlike Conduct (DCing) is against forum rules, please avoid doing so.
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There are a couple Killers I dislike going against as well. But I accept that me rage-quitting would ruin the game for 4 people, do my best to survive (usually end up dead), and move on to the next match.
Same as Killer; I don't bounce just because 5 gens popped and I have 0 kills.
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Don’t play the game than.
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I’ll probably just stick to killer because it’s super frustrating having so called “teammates” dc every match.
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Rage-quitting & throwing matches(suiciding on 1st hook) is so normalized in this game you'd think it's your duty to DC everyday.
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Isn't the answer obvious? I trust the developers to set the rules and put things in the game, and I play the game as it exists. They're the ones who designed it and they're the ones with the most vested interest in keeping it fair for both sides. It's not always perfect and there have been major screwups in the past, including ones that continue on today, but they aim to balance out their mistakes and will continue to do so in the future. If I dislike the state of a game that much, I don't play the game.
You absolutely can't trust random players to be objective about what's fair and what's not. The result is too often self-serving. Like, you're complaining about Deathslinger? Guy's balanced. He's brutal in a chase and can put survivors in lose-lose scenarios in many tiles, so you can't loop him to the extent you can many other killers, but he's slow and has no map pressure, so that's not a death sentence for the team the way it would be against Blight or Billy. The reason Spirit is unbalanced is because she can do the same thing in chase, to an even worse degree than Deathslinger can, but she does have high speed and map pressure. Your idea of 'this killer is unfair' isn't 'this killer isn't balanced', it's 'this killer isn't fair because I can't loop him for 3 minutes.' Spirit I can understand, even though I'm still irritated about the disconnects because most people quit before they even check if the Spirit is good or not. But. You'll see players who say "I DC if I get Spirit", but you also see players who say "I DC if I get Deathslinger" or "I DC if I get Wraith." "I DC if I get Doctor because him being able to find survivors is unfair." "I DC if the killer guards a 3-gen." "I DC if the survivors bring BNP or pop 3 gens during my first chase." "I DC if I get tunneled, and it's tunneling if the killer chases me again at any point in the next two minutes, no matter what I'm doing." "I DC if I get camped, and the killer is camping if they don't leave the hook area immediately or if they follow anyone back to the hook." "I DC if survivors find a key because keys shouldn't exist." "I DC if the killer can't be basic M1 killer looped because that's unfun." "I DC if the survivors loop me well because that's unfun."
If you let the players decide what is and isn't fair? The result is pure anarchy, except instead of violence it's a bunch of screaming gamers in their 20s.
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I honestly think the whole pairing dcers with other dcers is the best option lol because it then at least curbs their behavior in the right direction I hope that is something that could be easily implemented.
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I love this. People who ragequit start wondering why everyone else is rage-quitting around them. 😂
Would serve them right.
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"All DC penalties do is punish the quitter."
As they should.
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Until they didnt do something with tunneling problem i wont wanna DC Pentaly back
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How do you fix tunneling if you cant hide properly thats on you
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Tunneling is not an excuse to DC.
It's just Survivors complaining that Killers are playing efficiently.
Do you ignore an 80% done generator to give the Killer more time to play by spreading out gens? No? Then why does the Killer have to ignore the wounded, previously-hooked Survivor & spread out hooks to give them more time to play?
Oh, because Survivors demand it. And now, apparently, they will ragequit if they don't get their way.
Can't wait for the DC penalty to return.
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How you hide from someone who hardly tunnel you when you get unhooked
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How did you end up on the hook in the first place?
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