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What caused the devs to release a killer like this?

Ok so i know the devs don’t even know their own game that well but ######### were they thinking when they came up with this idea to begin with? The whole concept is awful in every way. I’m honestly just thinking they got lazy and said “screw it, people will buy it anyways”. And then they claim they want to have the game last for 5+ years. Not gonna happen especially when you keep nerfing killers on top of making even worse ones than Freddy lol

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  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    Tsulan said:
    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:
    He can't tunnel.
    He has to constantly switch targets.
    He's easy to loop.
    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it
    I personally love legion as a player of both sides. They're not EASY to loop. You can loop them. They dont HAVE to switch targets as drastically as youd have it seem. A decent legion can chase with very real danger. 

    Have you even played as/against them?
  • Gamzello
    Gamzello Member Posts: 828

    It depends on how people play him tbh. He kinda does have to put more pressure onto survivors which is why its better for legion to constantly switch targets. I've tried to loop him, and it's somewhat difficult but not really.

    I play on console.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Tsulan said:
    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:
    He can't tunnel.
    He has to constantly switch targets.
    He's easy to loop.
    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it

    I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

    He can easily tunnel and when he tunnels, there is literally nothing you can do.

    He has to constantly switch targets but if he wants you in the end, he can actually hit others first and then tunnel you.

    He is easy to loop if he doesn't use his power, most of them use their power and the chases are too boring since as a survivor there is literally nothing you can do.

    Pallets and windows don't help you much, it is a matter of time before you going down. Your only hope is that your teammates finish the generators before you die. So, terrible chases with the very high chance of going down.

    He is frustrating for both sides. I am sure that there are people who love playing as him and against him but at this moment, both survivors and killers are not happy with him.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Delfador said:

    @Tsulan said:
    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:
    He can't tunnel.
    He has to constantly switch targets.
    He's easy to loop.
    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it

    I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

    He can easily tunnel and when he tunnels, there is literally nothing you can do.

    He has to constantly switch targets but if he wants you in the end, he can actually hit others first and then tunnel you.

    He is easy to loop if he doesn't use his power, most of them use their power and the chases are too boring since as a survivor there is literally nothing you can do.

    Pallets and windows don't help you much, it is a matter of time before you going down. Your only hope is that your teammates finish the generators before you die. So, terrible chases with the very high chance of going down.

    He is frustrating for both sides. I am sure that there are people who love playing as him and against him but at this moment, both survivors and killers are not happy with him.

    So when he plays against his power, he can tunnel. Good to know! I probably was under the false impression that a killers power should give him an advantage. Instead of being something that holds him back. Sounds awfully like Freddy. 

    Yeah, he can jump over pallets, then he tags the survivor. Who isn't downed. Even if he hits several times with his power, which is kinda hard to begin with. Since he gets his exhaustion animation. 

    Cool power! Don't down survivors. Just tag them, then go for the next one in the hope the tagged survivors don't mend.

    Btw. @Peanits what is wrong with the notification system? 3 people answered me in this thread and I only got his notification. 
  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Tsulan said:
    Delfador said:

    @Tsulan said:

    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:

    He can't tunnel.

    He has to constantly switch targets.

    He's easy to loop.

    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it

    I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

    He can easily tunnel and when he tunnels, there is literally nothing you can do.

    He has to constantly switch targets but if he wants you in the end, he can actually hit others first and then tunnel you.

    He is easy to loop if he doesn't use his power, most of them use their power and the chases are too boring since as a survivor there is literally nothing you can do.

    Pallets and windows don't help you much, it is a matter of time before you going down. Your only hope is that your teammates finish the generators before you die. So, terrible chases with the very high chance of going down.

    He is frustrating for both sides. I am sure that there are people who love playing as him and against him but at this moment, both survivors and killers are not happy with him.

    So when he plays against his power, he can tunnel. Good to know! I probably was under the false impression that a killers power should give him an advantage. Instead of being something that holds him back. Sounds awfully like Freddy. 

    Yeah, he can jump over pallets, then he tags the survivor. Who isn't downed. Even if he hits several times with his power, which is kinda hard to begin with. Since he gets his exhaustion animation. 

    Cool power! Don't down survivors. Just tag them, then go for the next one in the hope the tagged survivors don't mend.

    Btw. @Peanits what is wrong with the notification system? 3 people answered me in this thread and I only got his notification. 

    And I didn't get this notification at all.

    You don't need to play against your power. There are 3 survivors, you hit the first, then the second, then the third, and then you can hit him for the second time and start to tunnel him while others try to find a safe place and mend themselves. This is not playing against his power.

    After that, you can let the survivor go and then give him the false impression that he is safe and allow him to start to mend. Timer goes down, after he hits 30%, use your power and down him. It takes time which is frustrating for the killer but there is literally nothing you can do as a survivor.

    I am not saying he is powerful or anything. He is both annoying for the killers and the survivors at the same time. You may not be able to win the games but I am pretty sure that you can tunnel and down people effortlessly.

  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716
    First game against The Legion... We actually trolled him and we all escaped... Until he RQ!
    Did I mention I didn't get touched the entire game. He actually had some pretty good perks too.
  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552
    edited December 2018

    The legion is really weird.

    He is not bad at chases. You can loop a trapper or a wraith for 5 minutes but if you face against a legion, you will go down in a minute regardless of your skill.

    However, his chases are not strong enough for you to snowball and win the game.

    As a survivor, I actually feel really weak against the legion because I know that if he wants me dead, I will get downed.

    As a killer, I feel like even though I get my downs easily without putting much effort, I am gonna lose the game because there is no snowball moments.

    This killer needs complete rework imo. I just can't find any other way to balance him.

    I wrote that instead of dead oops

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Tsulan said:
    Btw. @Peanits what is wrong with the notification system? 3 people answered me in this thread and I only got his notification. 

    Note that only one of them used @Tsulan. The other two just wrote "Tsulan".

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Orion said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Btw. @Peanits what is wrong with the notification system? 3 people answered me in this thread and I only got his notification. 

    Note that only one of them used @Tsulan. The other two just wrote "Tsulan".

    But my name is marked red. Mmhhh really weird.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Tsulan said:
    But my name is marked red. Mmhhh really weird.

    I assume they're on mobile, as are you. You didn't use @Orion either.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Orion said:

    @Tsulan said:
    But my name is marked red. Mmhhh really weird.

    I assume they're on mobile, as are you. You didn't use @Orion either.

    But did you get a notification?
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Tsulan said:
    But did you get a notification?

    First thing I do on every forum I join is disable notifications. However, I know from Vietfox that you do not get notifications unless someone uses @.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555
    Tsulan said:
    Delfador said:

    @Tsulan said:
    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:
    He can't tunnel.
    He has to constantly switch targets.
    He's easy to loop.
    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it

    I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

    He can easily tunnel and when he tunnels, there is literally nothing you can do.

    He has to constantly switch targets but if he wants you in the end, he can actually hit others first and then tunnel you.

    He is easy to loop if he doesn't use his power, most of them use their power and the chases are too boring since as a survivor there is literally nothing you can do.

    Pallets and windows don't help you much, it is a matter of time before you going down. Your only hope is that your teammates finish the generators before you die. So, terrible chases with the very high chance of going down.

    He is frustrating for both sides. I am sure that there are people who love playing as him and against him but at this moment, both survivors and killers are not happy with him.

    So when he plays against his power, he can tunnel. Good to know! I probably was under the false impression that a killers power should give him an advantage. Instead of being something that holds him back. Sounds awfully like Freddy. 

    Yeah, he can jump over pallets, then he tags the survivor. Who isn't downed. Even if he hits several times with his power, which is kinda hard to begin with. Since he gets his exhaustion animation. 

    Cool power! Don't down survivors. Just tag them, then go for the next one in the hope the tagged survivors don't mend.

    Btw. @Peanits what is wrong with the notification system? 3 people answered me in this thread and I only got his notification. 
    Good question. It seems like the notifications are fine, just for some reason the quotes are putting the @ in there, so it's not tagging you properly.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Peanits said:
    Good question. It seems like the notifications are fine, just for some reason the quotes are putting the @ in there, so it's not tagging you properly.

    I've ascertained that it's a mobile issue.

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    Personally I think it's not skill, more stupid survivors being close to each other. There are mo mind games with this killer. The legion doesn't have the capacity to get 3 hooks on every survivor. He's just too slow, and the frenzy mode is a waste of an ability as it cannot down anyone at all.
  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555
    Orion said:

    @Peanits said:
    Good question. It seems like the notifications are fine, just for some reason the quotes are putting the @ in there, so it's not tagging you properly.

    I've ascertained that it's a mobile issue.

    That would be odd because I use mobile every day at work and it seems to work fine for me, but I'll poke around and see if I can figure out what's causing it.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited December 2018

    @Peanits said:
    That would be odd because I use mobile every day at work and it seems to work fine for me, but I'll poke around and see if I can figure out what's causing it.

    It doesn't. Note how your comment lacks the @ before my name. This also breaks quotes, because the forum will get confused about how many nestled quotes there are.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Wolf74 said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Carpemortum said:


    Tsulan said:

    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:
    He can't tunnel.
    He has to constantly switch targets.
    He's easy to loop.
    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it

    I personally love legion as a player of both sides. They're not EASY to loop. You can loop them. They dont HAVE to switch targets as drastically as youd have it seem. A decent legion can chase with very real danger. 

    Have you even played as/against them?

    It's not like his power is to hit multiple targets...
    What's next? A nurse that doesn't teleport? Hag not using traps?

    Give me a break.

    Give killer a base kit ability that you deem soooo powerful that you have to balance it by reducing is base speed.
    Later claim that he should not use his power and chase regular.
    XD

    Make that guy a Dev, he would fit the job.^^

    "Not all killers have to be valid, they need to be fun"
    Without specifying fun for whom. Probably survivors. 
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Legion is very fun for survivors. Literally no skill required. Even the most basic of pallet loops can hold him at bay for a long time.
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Orion said:

    @Peanits said:
    Good question. It seems like the notifications are fine, just for some reason the quotes are putting the @ in there, so it's not tagging you properly.

    I've ascertained that it's a mobile issue.

    Is your browser's agent an Android/iPhone or PC? Mine is PC and I have no troubles with notifications.

    Also the forum looks way better.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    RSB said:

    @Orion said:

    @Peanits said:
    Good question. It seems like the notifications are fine, just for some reason the quotes are putting the @ in there, so it's not tagging you properly.

    I've ascertained that it's a mobile issue.

    Is your browser's agent an Android/iPhone or PC? Mine is PC and I have no troubles with notifications.

    Also the forum looks way better.

    Android and I hate the forum notifications. Especially if you get a lot. To chaotic. Also the draft saved message is to big and on the wrong place. Very annoying. 
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @RSB said:

    @Orion said:

    @Peanits said:
    Good question. It seems like the notifications are fine, just for some reason the quotes are putting the @ in there, so it's not tagging you properly.

    I've ascertained that it's a mobile issue.

    Is your browser's agent an Android/iPhone or PC? Mine is PC and I have no troubles with notifications.

    Also the forum looks way better.

    I'm not on mobile and my notifications are disabled. However, the people who press "Quote" and don't have an @ automatically added all seem to be on mobile.

  • PolarBear
    PolarBear Member Posts: 1,899

    @The_Crusader said:
    Legion is very fun for survivors. Literally no skill required. Even the most basic of pallet loops can hold him at bay for a long time.

    Well depends on the legion. If a legion want's you dead you are going down. He will eventually get you just like all killers, the difference is that you have no say in it. It's all in Legion's hands. Even if the map you are playing has amazing loops he will just vault over windows and pallets and hit you until your deep wound bar depletes.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @PolarBear said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    Legion is very fun for survivors. Literally no skill required. Even the most basic of pallet loops can hold him at bay for a long time.

    Well depends on the legion. If a legion want's you dead you are going down. He will eventually get you just like all killers, the difference is that you have no say in it. It's all in Legion's hands. Even if the map you are playing has amazing loops he will just vault over windows and pallets and hit you until your deep wound bar depletes.

    But he will need FOUR hits.
    That will take a huge amount of time.

  • PolarBear
    PolarBear Member Posts: 1,899

    @Wolf74 said:

    @PolarBear said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    Legion is very fun for survivors. Literally no skill required. Even the most basic of pallet loops can hold him at bay for a long time.

    Well depends on the legion. If a legion want's you dead you are going down. He will eventually get you just like all killers, the difference is that you have no say in it. It's all in Legion's hands. Even if the map you are playing has amazing loops he will just vault over windows and pallets and hit you until your deep wound bar depletes.

    But he will need FOUR hits.
    That will take a huge amount of time.

    Yes and that is why Legion is not fun to play as either. Legion always has a fixed amount of time in a chase if Legion chases survivors using his power. You are basically playing the game on autopilot while playing Legion.

  • Animalheadskull
    Animalheadskull Member Posts: 478
    Tsulan said:
    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:
    He can't tunnel.
    He has to constantly switch targets.
    He's easy to loop.
    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it
    I personally love legion as a player of both sides. They're not EASY to loop. You can loop them. They dont HAVE to switch targets as drastically as youd have it seem. A decent legion can chase with very real danger. 

    Have you even played as/against them?
    Nice I thought I was the only one who felt like this
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Tsulan said:
    They released a killer that fulfills every survivor mains dream of how a match should go:
    He can't tunnel.
    He has to constantly switch targets.
    He's easy to loop.
    He gives them a good chase without any real danger. 

    Survivors love him/her/it
    I personally love legion as a player of both sides. They're not EASY to loop. You can loop them. They dont HAVE to switch targets as drastically as youd have it seem. A decent legion can chase with very real danger. 

    Have you even played as/against them?
    Nice I thought I was the only one who felt like this
    Sure, chasing a survivor in frenzy while jumping over pallets and hitting them with your rubber spoon is soooooo entertaining!

    /not