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When there is 2 survivors left in a trial DC shouldn't trigger hatch
Survivors as usual taking advantage of anything they can soo ı was in a trial as pyramid head ı got 2 kills and downed 3th survivor then caged the survivor and other survivor did the save while ı was going there one of them dced other got the hatch there was 1 remainging gen my 4k game became 2 k one escape 1 dc and due to that game give me brutal killer ı didn't camp ı played as fair as ı could and this was what ı got in the end this is being abused it should be fixed
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Meh, it's irritating when the killer leaves the second-to-last survivor slugged as well, which is EVERY match.
You're just not guaranteed a 4K and the other side needs to have fun, too. Sorry.
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A dc counts as a kill. So you got a 3k. Any survivor who escapes through hatch was GIVEN their 'Escaped' status, and it wasn't earned.
Dcing should never be a valid tactic, of this I can agree. Still, two dead, one dced, that match was a success for you.
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I agree. It's totally cheating.
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slugging can be considered as a tactic and if u read carefully again I didn't slug at all, I caged the survivor,which puts survivor in the furthest position to killer possible,other side is just killing my fun that's all. They didn't earn it.
killer has right to slug anyway but if they wanna be a good guy and give u hatch it is killer's choice you are not guaranteed to escape in every trial
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yeah even if it is the hook states are gone. I was going to give them more chances to escape and get more points out of it by hooking more or chasing more ı don't slug much ı got 6 hooks that game as much as ı can remember (with cages) 6 hook 4k (2k 1 dc 1 hatch escape ı mean) was not failure but not enough to get pip as well and ı don't think I played hardocre ı was even playing fair tbh
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Killers have to slug to win against a competent team
Disconnecting shouldn't be rewarded
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Sometimes it's needed for disconnect. I had all 3 of my team mates disconnect as soon as killer went for them and this was all at the start of match which screwed me over as well.
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my point is not that your teamates dced for no reason but rage in my situation someone dced for some other person can get away and get a free win for one of them what I think is when 2 person left one's dc shouldn't trigger hatch
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Why is other survivor punished for others survivor action ?makes no sense also dc gives them penalty and it gives you free kill because it counts as one
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Killers just need to start demanding total removal of the hatch. Under no circumstances do they want anyone to have a chance, ever. Just say it already.
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why is survivor gets rewared bc of other players action? makes no sense, dc gives penalty to survivor who dced not to other survivor. I am able to get that 2 kill by myself that's why one of them dced actually. Someone ss getting rewarded for no reason that's all.
think about it objectively please and other player is not punished in anyways in my situation that game was already done they were gonna die anyway dcing saved one of them
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Stop sweating you got 3k and came to complain here and now even wants hatch not open because of some random dc imagine how many situation that happens without even planning that because ppl like to dc so I should be punished if random stranger accros the world decided to dc just to not get killed? Yeah no thx
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doesn't count as a kill for the challenges
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another survivor main... I play as both sides and if u can't look at this objectively please don't use forums this is litterally an abusement
And giving a chance to a survivor is a choice which is killer's choice he/she does what he/she wants. You don't have to get out every match game is already designed for survivors to win It just means you can't hanlde loosing that's all.
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ı'm not sweating for my 3k you are litealry protecting an abusement if that person ahd a key ı' was okey with it bc it was how game designed I doN't like keys but ı got nothing to do ın this situation game doesn't tells yo uto dc so that someone can get away what u sayying is BS you are not getting punished btw you already lost that game he could ve slugged and get you too you first need to admit that was a lose but looks like you don't
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Alright than stay mad about it I guess hatch won't change because it can't and shouldn't and never ever will because everyone realize the need of it no matter circumstances but you go off with it here of forums and stay pressed about it
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Just do same to survivors. You want to take me to RPD, or Haddonfield with offering? Cya.
Tactical DC is pathetic. I have lost games, because of survivors DC before I could kill them on hook, because I didn't get Pop / BBQ. I failed several adepts, because of noobs like that. They should just bring back DC penalty. You want to DC? Sure, you don't need to play for a while.
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The DC penalty is back.
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Good to know.
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I didn't say you did it, just that it's irritating.
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You don't make sense dude. I'm here trying to do my best and suggest someting healthier for the game while you protect a abusement besides I didn't say hatch should be gone or changed ı'm talking about dc effect on hatch
If any circumstances are okey with your way of look cheats are also fine cuz what is matter you should get out every circumstances should involve a way out even if its not ture
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Then you are talking about something off the topic start your own discussion don't mislead this one please
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You're repeating yourself without giving legitimate reason why hatch should stay close after dc
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In your case, you didn't anti-hatch slug. But the proposed 'solution' wouldn't just affect -your- situation. It'd also affect the anti-hatch sluggers. That is the problem. DC is currently the only defense against an anti-hatch slug.
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You missed the point of the hatch mechanic, because that's one reason why it exists. Sometimes it would be healthy for the quality of your opinion if you play both roles more often. Not once in a while when a challenge/daily has to get done.
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yeah becuase you can't understand it I already explained myself you didn't make any logic like it should stay this because bla bla you said hatch needed no matter how circumstances and you know what it isn't you lose you take it don't look for another win oppurtunity always sometimes you just lose accept it
what you said here is also another BS cuz ı'm talking about a spesific situation 2 person left one dc the other gets the hatch this situation must be considered ı already said
I explained to someone else here which was a logical disccusion
If this causes misunderstandig ı ll edit the discussion but ı don't think you will change your mind on that situation
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I editted the title since people tougth ı was saying hatch never should be triggered or sth. I tought the explanation under the title was explaning it but looks like it didn't.
My point is countering dc wins on a trial not punish someone bc someone dced early in game
DC is not a defense it is an abusement game doesn't let you do that or at least doesn't encourge you to do it has a punishment afterwards for the survivor who dced but the person is rewarded for no reason which is bad thing for killer side
I don't like hatch slug but it is a thing in game it is killer's choice not an abusement countering it with this way is wrong. In that scenirio killer is already won giving the hatch to survivor is killer's choice no counter actually needed you can't turn a lose to win just like that it isn't right
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So when the killer completely annulls a gameplay element, it's a 'choice', but when the survivor cancels that annullment out, it's 'an abusement'.
Fact is, that Hatch exists for a reason. Killers being able to disable it at will is a problem. The counter-DC fixes that.
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I am playing both sides really all I want is game to be healthier hatch mechanic is not this it exist for one survivor to has a chance to escape but not a sure thing it is chance dc kills that chance cuz killer can't do anything at that point it is a guaranted escape without earnning it I'm okey with hatch ı don't approve forcing it to open by dcing it is opened by itself when some situations are right
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I don't see why giving the Hatch a 10 second delay after a DC would be a huge problem. That's about the same amount of time it takes a survivor to die on final hook after the killer has regained control.
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Someone probably sugged the 3rd to ty and get a 4K. I don't blame them for DC at that point, sometimes people just want to get into the next game without having their time watsed
But to answer the question no, why should the last person get punished because their team mate DCed, they were dead anyway so no harm done
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survivors hatch game at the start means killer is winning ı just think survivors can't accept that
killer was already winning he is not doing anything differnt survivor in otherhand abused something in game to get away yeah it is an abusement sluging doesn't change killer win state dc does change survivors
Hatch exists to give survivor another chance survivor's forcing it to open is a problem killers hands are tied in that sceniro nothing can be done killer doesn't have a second chance on anything at least survivors shouldN't be able to make situation happen by themselves entity does it when it is right to do
again That's not a counter thats taking adventage of something they shouldn't have
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It would be better at least you would know and may try to go where hatch spawned if u know but still survivors will find the hatch and then dc it is still not a good thing but better then how it is now
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Well they wouldn't need to DC, as it wouldn't give any advantage over simply getting hooked and killed. Unless the killer is slugging for the 4K.
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'Hatch exists to give survivors another chance'
And, pray tell, how is it supposed to do that if the killer can simply declare it not to open?
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I don't think any of survivor do that to get to other game and in my situation my time is being wasted so anytime they perfomr bad they can jsut dc so one can get out an it is ok ? so someone always shoul manage to leave trial alive then this was of thinking is so much survivor sided
The last person isn't punished they already lost the game to win they done this ı'M tired of repeating myself they were dead and they couldn't accept it to win they dced and make one of them go out ı didn't even slug man ı'M okey if that person gets the hacth normally bc entitiy allows it to happen
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So you explained a situation if someone did for friend? What if it happens randomly? Should I get punished because survivor rage quitted? I don't think so
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it already opens if u don't play like a toxic mf you jsut gotta wait 10 secs after the 3th survivor died you don't dc problem fixes itself
You dc it opens early killer has zero chance to do sth about it when I say what actually happens ı became the killer sided guy
hatch is a chance for survivor and making it even more good by not game does dcing is not right jsut please admit you lost the game stop being a douchbag
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That is exactly why so many killers refuse to kill the third survivor. And then you're stuck waiting two minutes for the bleed-out timer.
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Leaving the second to last survivor slugged for more than 30 seconds should trigger hatch. There, your time wasting problem is solved.
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Rage quit happens when someone gets tunneled like hell,camped for entire game and downed instantly,downded early in game fastly SO when you dc while tehre is only 2 survivors left, You are clearliy giving the hatch to someone else
for god sake make some sense
Does any of you DC when game is about to end? if u do that's BS you ll get banned for 5mins which is longer that dying on the hook
even if someone does that stupid decision here is another solution i liked sound better to me than how it is now
In the end the current situton of it is abusable and people are abusing it
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ban takes longer pal
still if the time is teh issue you can dc ı'm okey with it but hatch's opening that fast should be reworked
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and everyone please slugging is not the topic you are making excuse of it to stay this abusement like this for them bc something is wrong the other wrong thing shouldN't exist go open your own disccusion say whateveer you wanna say about slugging ı'm only here to talk about hatch spawn effect on dc ı don't care about how you guys are getting slugged
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I mean you can't control what someone else does. If your survivor team mate DC's and you as a solo player . . . who has to stealth around . . . who isn't as fast . . . has a limited time to find the only path for escape . . . you deserve it.
Sorry you didn't get your 4K but you're not entitled to it. Sometimes a GOOD survivor gets a ######### team and doing a good job at surviving needs some silver-lining.
You already have the upper hand. You're a lot faster - you don't have to hide - you can close it .
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how can ı close it if they find it and dc and go out it all happens in 2 secs
Hatch is not the problem dcing is
bc a survivor is good killer shouldn't get just 2 kills and bc it is team game killer is right to get 4 k that issue is about matchmaking system killer's not doing anything about it is just bad luck still the topic is dcing and making hatch opening this is an abuse hatch normally open and someone goes with it everything fine in my book
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It happens actually
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How do you know the 3rd survivor delibertely DCd to let the fourth survivor win? The entire premise for this argument seems to hinge on that and I don't see how it's provable.
Still, as a survivor main I don't see why anyone DCs anyway. You don't get any BP and get increasingly locked out of match making. It just doesn't seem worth it to let another survivor who may or may not have found the hatch to survive. Especially if it's going to be the killer hook anyway. The problem isn't the hatch. The problem is people who seem ok with DC and that's not often the fourth survivors fault.
Also, let's not pretend the killers don't abuse the system either. The amount of killers who now down S3 and then go off to find the hatch before sacrificing them, then who go and stand on the hatch ready to close it before any survivor gets a chance to use it is quite high. That happens WAY more than survivors escaping in many matches in which I've been the last survivor. If we are going to nerf the hatch for the survivor it needs to be counter nerfed for the killer too.
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Exactly there's no legit streategy or mechanic to acknowledge if person dcd for hatch or not and if they implemented what op is suggesting random players gets punished for something others did meaning they're forced to just die will they have chance of surviving but yeah as they said we don't make sense apparently lol
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bc someone dces a sec alter other leaves the trial this isn't hard to understand and also they won't hide it you can talk with them after game in lobby chat it happens sometimes it is being a concidence is a very low chance
I'm not a survivor main or killer main ı play both. Some people just dc for their friends or they are just toxic even if u play good they do this not to give you all kills they would do anything just to lessen whatever you can have. In your perspective you don't find it worth to do that but some don't care. ın some ways I agrre with you. Hatch isn't the problem problem is the person who dced even if its not his fault he takes the advantage of it willingly or not ı'm not blaming him my problem is this situations being possible.
Killer's collision is not an abusement you cannot prevent it if someone wants the 4k it is not an abuse it is just annoying, nothing is against the rules or sth like that. Hatch is just a chance for some survivors and killer can take it away from survivors and should be able to do so because game is already survivor sided,which is okey, but survivors doing it like this isn't right. In that point all you need to is accept the lose. I'm really tired of saying the same thing.
basic game is gen based do them or protect them being done hatch is an extra whoever wins the first is the winner the other is just the chance survivors abusing the latter to get a free win so there isn't something need to work on killer side. Your being last survivor doesn't mean you earned the leave trial alive, someone always gonna be the last survivor people can't die at the same time. Being the last guy isn't a win scenerio. if there is still gens you lost and this is the end of the discussion for me.hatch just a chance leave it as a chance don't abuse it!
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If someone plays until the end of the match and then there is only 2 person left leaves what the hell else it can be please enlighten me you played for 20-25 mins then wanted to leave and got ban why?
that's not random punishment even if it is then not doing is random rewarding you okey with it cuz you think only for survivors and yeah this deosn't make sense bc that random win is not earned by you. It is actually that simple but no surviors have to live no matter what!
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