Deranged pursuit bugged

Just noticed, in the German translation of the trophy text it does not mention Killer Instinct (so the translation is different from the English screenshot above). It just asks to down survivors suffering from Deep Wounds. Maybe the poster does not play in English and has an inaccurate translation as well.

I can say i do all thinks what @Patricia saying and still no progress on the arch.

Maybe its really bugged!

pretty sure is bugged
had 7 games where I downed many people by using the power and none counted towards the achievement

@Patricia said:
To achieve Deranged Pursuit you need to
*Choose The Legion
*Activate Frenzy
*While in Frenzy Hit a Survivor to activate Killer Instinct.
*Hit a Survivor already in Bleed Out and down him before the Killer Instinct ends.
(Survivor reaching Bleeding Out ends, while in Killer Instinct, does not count toward the progression)

Let me know if this make more sense and if you are able to unlock the trophy!
Thank you !

It doesn't make sense because the conditions are completely asinine.
But besides that, the wording for the achievement description is terrible and explains none of this at all.

@not_Queen, @Patricia.
Is this verified as working? Are we just incompetent?
Thanks!

@Patricia said:
@Supernaut
It is verified as working on our side (on PS4, PC, XBOX)
And I know QA bugged the description for the trophy because it is not clear on how to obtain the achievement.
Thanks!

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
I think I understand now!
SO, for example

Legion has hit and lost David King, who is now in Deep Wound.
Legion sees Bill, Frenzies, and hits him.
Legion then Chains together another hit onto a poorly hidden DAVID KING and downs him!

Is that about right?

@Supernaut said:

@Mashtyx1 said:
@Supernaut I am on PS4 so I don't really know how to tell if its counting or not.

On Steam we get a progress count in the achievement screen.

same on xbox but ours is a percentage

I think the key thing that @Patricia mentioned was "Killer Instinct", which activates after hitting the first survivor and guides you to other survivors.
I believe the description in the Notes is just poor. However, I suck with Legion, so am unable to verify!

From the Steam Forums:

Here's the Rundown for how to ACTUALLY DO IT (Since the achievement is incredibly vague and poorly designed)

-Hit Survivor in Frenzy

-Break away and hit another. (At this point you get KILLER INSTINCT, which is what you are ACTUALLY supposed to have)

-Hope the other survivor is utterly braindead and hasn't mended themselves.

-Down the survivor who's timer is nearly depleted.

-Congrats you have gotten a tick for an uttterly broken achievement.

Now repeat 24 more times. Have fun.

I've talked with the design team and you guys are going to have more info during the livestream today.

@Patricia said:
I've talked with the design team and you guys are going to have more info during the livestream today.

Cool, I'm up to 8 now Totally working fine, just rather convoluted!

@Pascal1997 said:
@Supernaut really? i try your guild but at my side its not gonna be working
So... i make somethink wrong or i have dont understand it..

OK,

inflict a Deep wound player 1. They need to be in a state where one more Frenzied hit would down them.
Initiate a frenzy and then hit player 2; you then need to hit player 1 that final time, while still in the Frenzied state, to down them.

Hopefully in the stream they'll address it. Patricia mentioned it on another thread.

GOOD LUCK!

Patricia said:

To achieve Deranged Pursuit you need to
*Choose The Legion
*Activate Frenzy
*While in Frenzy Hit a Survivor to activate Killer Instinct.
*Hit a Survivor already in Bleed Out and down him before the Killer Instinct ends.
(Survivor reaching Bleeding Out ends, while in Killer Instinct, does not count toward the progression)

Let me know if this make more sense and if you are able to unlock the trophy!
Thank you !

Having to down someone thanks to Killer Instinct getting triggered is almost impossible. Survivors naturally scatter as soon as he comes and it's no matter how many attempts I had, it was impossible to catch the target before running out of the frenzy. The factor of having to do it while killer Instinct is triggered should be taken out, just like it suggests in the actual achievement description.

For how weak the killer is the achievement is ridiculously difficult, even if it's only 25 times.

@anarchy753 said:
If that is INTENDED, that is absolutely ridiculous. Killer instincts reveals survivors who are NOT affected by deep wounds, there is no relation between having killer instincts active and being able to find a deep wounded survivor. If you're going to try to hit a newly wounded survivor then chain back to someone you already had worked on, they're likely to have put as much distance between you as possible, and started to mend which is already a quick action.

I don't know why it was put in like this, killer power achievements have always been about using the power to hit or down people, not activate 4 stupidly complex mechanics then eventually down people. Doing this 25 times will literally take hundreds upon hundreds of matches. This really NEEDS to be fixed to match the description of the achievement, because someone royally screwed how it was put in initially.

To be honest, I have little hope their are going to do something about it any time soon. They didn't do anything about that royally screwed up Halloween Event problem around the cankers and offerings and for a long time they didn't do anything about the Huntresses ridiculous achievement target of downing 100 survivors from more than 24 meters away (though I just saw they reduced it to 20).

They are on a balance act of trying to add skill based achievements without making them too easy but they never get it right. The Spirit is extremely powerful and her 'down 30 survivors after coming out of haunting' is very easy. The Legion is only a low-mid tier killer and having to down a deep-wound-survivor while the instinct is active goes entirely against the purpose of his power. It is completely luck based on every possible level.

anarchy753 said:

I've spent basically 2 full days on it and got it. It is COMPLETELY counter-intuitive to how killer instincts works. It not only doesn't reveal already bleeding enemies, it hides their scratch marks to make re-finding them insanely hard. To get ANY of the scores for it, I've had to chase people for upwards of 3 minutes keeping them from bleeding out until they get near an ally, which doesn't happen because deep wounds SHOWS them allies to avoid them. 90% of the time they find a patch of ground and just start running in circles or mend in front of you because they don't know what's going on. I've gone game after game after game with no hooks because to do this completely unnatural playstyle means NOBODY goes down all game. You literally need to chase someone until an ally gets curious as to what the hell you're doing and comes to investigate.

This is a miserable achievement and people shouldn't have to suffer through attempting this. It needs to be changed before it's been left in too long to fix.

Edit: It also needs to be said, because of what was said in the devstream "It becomes an issue to change it once it's already out because some people have already progressed or achieved it." As someone who HAS done it, the attitude that it can't be changed because I suffered through it is moronic, it's utterly against playing the game well and encouraging people to try to do this is actively bad for anyone stuck in their games. Better we show just how bad it is and improve it for future achievement hunters, than force those future players through an unenjoyable, unrealistic grind.