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Starting to wonder how common in-game hacking is.
Since we already know people hack their bloodpoints pseudo-openly...
I keep getting games where Killers beeline me, despite having no way to know where I am. (And I do mean, no way to know.)
Killers that track me through tall walls which I can see over only because of my 3rd person advantage...
Killers that hook somebody, and literally run a pixel-perfect straight line to my locker...
Killers that do all of these impossible things. And you can only call it "unlucky" so many times in a row.
I'm starting to wonder... if this game became GTA Online at some point.
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Yeah one time I hopped in a locker when someone got picked up. They got off, but before I got out of the locker they got downed again, so I stayed in. The Freddy hooks them, and beelines to my locker to open it and find me. When I messaged them post game they blamed their BBQ (impossible as I was in the locker), they blamed being able to hear me (impossible as the hook was 1/2 across the map, they blamed knowing someone was on a gen (no gen was in shack).
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I have only ran into hackers once, and they were VERY blatant about it. Health states coming back immediately, blinding me through walls, hooking and unhooking himself.
You could probably get away with subtle hacks easily given these people do it out in the open.
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I've only ran into a hacker once who was speed hacking but my game crashed
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Yeah I've had this happen too, got it recorded as well. It was the map with the small temple in the middle, Someone got downed so I got in the locker preemptively (unsure of how close a hook would be). About 6 full seconds later, the hook happens. I literally stay in the locker.
Killer just makes a straight line to my locker and pops me out. And of course, he said it was cuz of BBQ.
This kind of thing is happening a LOT.
So I'm wondering if there's some new hack going around, or an old one gaining popularity. Or something.
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AKA you have only gone against one person that didn't care if they got banned. you have probably gone against plenty that use esp and speed cheats.
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I have had 3 single rage cheaters and 2 entire teams of rage cheaters (flying around, instantly healing in my face, hook spam etc) with probably 20 suspect games as both killer and survivor (speed increases and esp cheats)
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There's only been a couple of times I was certain, loaded into a match and one of my teammates had sprintburst speed NON STOP for the entire match we felt bad for the killer and reported but not sure if anything happened
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Ran into a hacking Doctor yesterday. His heartbeat was mapwide, skillchecks were just a small white line due to 4x Unnerving Presence. Constant SB speed, no cooldown on hits (I spun him twice) and he always knew were someone was. He killed 3 people started EGC, carried the lsat survivor to the exit gate and then activated Bloodwarden without hooking anybody and last survivor died to EGC.
His perks were Huntress Lullaby, Franklins, Sloppy Butcher and Nurse's Calling.
Was interesting to see. I've seen killers hack to fly, get constant information and throw hatchets. Never seen a hacking killer with mapwide terror radius and 4x Unnerving Presence. I even hit 2 of those skillchecks.
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Theres been a pretty big increase in hacking lately, you certainly aren't alone in this assumption.
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I've also seen some shady killer behavior in the past. I play mostly console and when you check the end game screen, it's always people from pc (you can see because of their names) that have some shady stuff.
Like, totally no tracking perks, but knowing exactly where you are when you're in a locker (way before bbq could be activated) and that sort of things.
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4 out of 5 players every trial use them if you solo queue.
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If you play a lot, you will encounter cheaters regularly. Around 2-3 obvious ones per week.
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Not very, but like in every game, people tend to assume there's a lot of them.
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It’s probably a lot less than you think. I know the spawn locations on many maps for example and can usually find people within like 10-20 seconds of a match starting.
If you don’t get into the locker quickly enough the killer can still see you getting into it with BBQ. The killer can also make a guess what area you are hiding in easily.
A killer who knows the tiles can easily predict where you are inside a loop. Especially if you are injured.
The fact I could go play on Xbox and ~still~ have people calling me a hacker over Xbox messages says it all.
I got accused of hacking instantly when using the busted trickster addon combo that got hit nerfed.
Been called a hacker multiple times when using discordance and deducing the location of a second survivor who hid when the first one ran off, etc etc
I see some but not all that often. Maybe once every month or two and I play a ton. More often than not it’s just salty babies making excuses for why they lost
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There is probably a lot of progression cheaters but it's hard to report them unless they do something stupid like use a legacy skin with public achievements. In-game cheaters however are a lot more rare but they are very noticeably increasing and may I add (in my own recent experience reporting them) are taking ages to be banned.
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I had a match where shortly after the last gen went and we were going to escape even though we were in separate locations across the map suddenly we fell down as if injured. I'm pretty certain that killer was a hacker.
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About 1 hour ago, I was playing survivor with my brother, we had a legacy nea and a feng as teammates.
So I always use bond and saw the auras so I turned around and my brother was doing a gen with nea, he said "gen is about 30%" then the killer went for him instead of continuing chasing me, not exaggerating but 5 seconds after he left the nea completed 70% of the gen in about 5 seconds.
And I might be wrong but I swear I saw her use dead hard twice in about 15 seconds.
Also I'm pretty sure the killer wanted to kill her so bad since she was playing extremely nice, no slug, no camp, great sport as well and she actually facecamped the legacy nea, we managed to save her but after my brother showed me the video that he recorded I was like "yup I should've not saved her" like bro 70% of a gen in 5 seconds? There is absolutely no way possible not even with bnp and fast track.
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About the locker thing... I've been accused multiple times of "wallhacks" because i spotted someone slowhiding in a locker on bbq... I hope it's not the case.
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One of the more common cheats I see is survivors lag switching. Just had a game with one of those. Whenever they lag switch they look like they're running in a straight line, often into a wall. Then they'll TP wherever they want to go. If they get downed they're fine because they usually equip Unbreakable, No Mither and Soul Guard and can't be picked up due to the extreme lag switch.
Had a survivor do this when healing a downed survivor. Killer tried to pick her up and got bugged out in a weird carrying but not actually carrying the survivor pose the rest of the game until the survivor DCed.
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I'm not talking about slow-entering a locker as someone is being hooked.
I am not exaggerating when I say that I slow-entered a locker as the person got downed, and then 6 full seconds later (timed it, again, this was recorded), they hooked the person. And then immediately beelined my locker. And I had no recent interaction with this Killer, and I was about 80m away, and there were multiple lockers...
I'm well aware of how bad players will call people cheaters for explainable and legitimate things. But I am aware of the game's mechanics. I have many experiences where there is no legitimate explanation.
SOMETIMES it could be bugs... Especially in DBD, eh? I had a game where Demo went actually invisible, and was just a Red Stain moving around. He even had no aura (Kindred etc), but he wasn't Undetectable cuz he had a Terror. Apparently, I was the only one who experienced this. So I assume that was just a bug.
But how often can it be a bug? How often could it be lucky spotting?
Like, when I'm behind a tall haystack waiting to rescue someone who just got hooked (so obviously in close range), and the Killer is walking towards me "randomly," but every time I walk in the opposite direction he's heading, he tracks me and changes his own direction, that's when I don't add a tally under "coincidence".
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Actually yes, this too. I've noticed this happening a LOT.
Never seems to happen during a mundane moment, right? Only during a critical moment... Hmm...
Especially when someone teabags you after all 5 gens, then you're about to win a chase, and of course they end up teleporting 100m away from you. Yeah, guess that's just a coincidence... What timing...
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was many people that slightly increase their movement speed so they are not obvious. A lot of people use exploits to gain an advantage already, case in point, resolution exploit. It wouldn't shock me if some of them also used more than that.
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Me too, how many sly ones specifically.
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In-game hacking is not as common as people think it is. I've seen way too many times people calling cheats when a lot of things can be explained by latency, someone not paying attention, or just a lack of knowledge.
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Tbh BHVR doesn't give a damn about cheaters. I reported 2 obvious ones (flying across the map, throwing hatchets, carring people out of bonds so they get stuck there etc.) with video evidence and both of them are still playing.
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I’ve had a bug happen to me when my adrenaline procced I kept the speed for the entire endgame I felt incredibly bad and even let the killer kill me despite it being an easy escape had the bug not occurred. Needless to say I reported to bhvr but I fear the chance of a ban because it looks like straight up hacking.
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I run into hackers every day almost. It's the stealth hackers who are the worst and ruin the game. It's so easy to increase your base speed just slightly enough to make you fast to outrun the killer or catch survivors depending on which you play. Fixing generators with extra speed when you are alone on a generator also is something no one can catch unless there to witness it and even then you have to question if it is just a toolbox.
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i ran into only 2 hackers, 1 was subtle speed hack the other temporarily disabled their hitbox (didn't seem to be experienced with the hacking tool since they had to stand still to enable it on and off)
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The standing still one could be explained by what we call "console Dead Hard". Perhaps.
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yea I'm getting a noticeable uptick in lag switchers when I play killer. Always happens when the survivor/s are in a more dire predicament; never when I am being looped by better players, etc.
All of a sudden there seems to be a de-sync issue where the survivor/s are frozen for 10 sec. where I could hit them repeatedly but nothing happens. Afterwards they are teleported to god knows where to relative safety, and the downed survivor is up, the hooked survivor is unhooked, etc..
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I had a weird game last night as Trapper. I saw an Adam slip into a locker quietly. I walked over, opened it, the animation for opening and closing happened. I could see him standing there. Tried again. No grab again. I just set a trap a walked on.
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There are many ways a killer can gain information on you other than just aura reading. Some killers have really good game sense and can have a very good idea where every one is, some times they can determine where a survivor is through walls simply because a survivor hasnt reached a certain point at a certain time
You really arent facing as many hackers as you think, and youre really not as stealthy as you think
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thats what i tought at first but i swinged the hacker 3 times
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sigh.
This is why hackers can get away with it... You are basically protecting them when you say things like this.
Dismissing all claims of hacking just assuming "the claimant must be a newbie" is not good.
We LITERALLY KNOW that hackers exist in the game. Whether BP hacking, or blatant hacks in-game, we all universally know this.
So to sit there and think that there are ONLY blatant hackers... that's just insanely naive. Think about it this way. What if YOU were a hacker? Would you fly around the map and one-tap gens? Or would you... say... give yourself +4% move speed? Or would you give yourself permanent mapwide player auras, and only act on it when you think your actions are hidden/safe?
Stop being naive.
We ALREADY KNOW people DO hack. So why be a goober and say, "Yeah, people hack, just not in YOUR games, you're just a newbie."
We also ALREADY KNOW that LOTS of people WOULD hack if they COULD. And, since they can, here we are...
(Look at any game where hacking isn't punished. Big example is the one I already used, GTA Online. Every public game either already has hackers, or will within 30 minutes. Because, since they CAN, they WILL and DO.)
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He's not protecting hackers, he's saying that people make mistakes all the time in thinking they're undetectable or that their opponent is not good. They could have also just guessed correctly. I've done that many, many times.
Hackers exist in this game, sure, but for people to say it happens all the time to them is something I just don't believe without proof. I've been accused, I've seen streamers accused, I've seen video evidence that didn't show anything extraordinary. If you say you've seen one, ok, but if you say it's common and that you come across them all the time, prove it.
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I said he's protecting hackers.
I didn't say he's intentionally protecting hackers.
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Are there any hacking experts?
The thing I cannot understand is: we have our Game, which is a client. And we have a dedicated server, which synchronizes the game state between clients and controls the match. I assume the hacker client sends corrupted data to the server, distributing the hack (invalid state) to all players. Why wouldn't the server prevent a wrong game state? Why are people flying across the map, hook themselves, use dead-hard ten times in a row while healthy, insta-heal, have infinite spritnburst... but when I hit them with the chainsaw on the pallet as Bubba, they scream, but remain healthy.
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Dunno, I wonder the same thing about GTA. (And I guess all hacking.)
Shouldn't the game be able to know what's possible and not possible, and shut down all instances of impossibility? Might be hard to program, but are no companies willing to cheat-proof their games?...
Just seems lazy to me. Like nobody cares about the health of their game, only the money aspect. Like there's no passion in the gaming industry anymore. Or else, surely, we'd see companies protect their baby, right?
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I played a freddy match yesterday where he knew where I was at all times. He hooked i was in a locker he made a be line,I heard him coming so I hid(not injured) and he came straight for me. He had no tracking perks yet I couldn't hid from him
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Im not defending them, Im just saying you are not going against nearly as many hackers as you think
Besides, if some one is gonna cheat in this game theyre gonna be blatant or give themselves a save file. This game is not competitive enough to give themselves the slighest speed boost to give themselves an edge
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ever seen a survivor with speed hacks and being the killer tho?
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Your own opinion and stance towards the game is not everyone's.
If you think nobody would do subtle cheats over blatant cheats, just because you wouldn't, you're unhealthily self-centered.
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I encountered 3 in less than 24 hours so id say its pretty common
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Played against a legacy Claudette last week that was acting like a r 20 and their profile was hidden with 1 game ban and 1 vac ban and no name changes.
Totally legit.
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Your own opinion and stance towards the game is not everyone's
And keep believing every second game you play you have a cheater, please, these kind of posts are entertaining
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That's a strawman argument. No one is stating that.
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You sure? I mean according to him I'm self centered just because I (and apparently no one else) believe that 99.99% of my games are actually fair and don't involve any cheating
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I just played with a speed hacker nea that zoomed through the map when nobody was watching. I think she was thinking nobody could see her (she was on the floor above and I had Bond). But yeah, there are some stealthy hackers. I'm pretty sure they insta complete a gen when they have the opportunity too, or when they judge they are playing against someone they don't like.
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just saw this message, you have it recorded? Show it. not just the clip either, the whole game
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All I ever said was that "there are a lot". I never said "every other match".
You're not as "entertained" as you are claiming, and you're just trying to BM on the forums.
It's so old.
Be a human being.
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