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SBMM Streamer Propaganda
Hey guys,
Streamers don't want SBMM because it makes their streams look bad. There's a lot of propaganda from streamers right now telling everyone how horrible SBMM is. My suggestion is to ignore it.
Of course Streamers don't want SBMM and of course your hearing a lot of bad stuff about SBMM because the content creators are where we get info from right now.
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Opinions and propaganda are two different things
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Lmao ok
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Yep they do sure complain about it. But people who play sweaty, should get sweaty matches.
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True.
Being completely stomped is not fun for either side.
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Of course, if I'm cherry picking matches that make me look godlike and they're harder to come across or not happening, I'm going to want to stop the process causing that...
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Damn my 80-90 kill rate ratio is coming to an end. better say SBMM is bad
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I don’t blame streamers for having opinions. They’re people too. The issue is there are many people who will just blindly copy the opinions of their favorite content creators instead of forming their own opinions.
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Its not propaganda if you think about it
look at it this way
a lot of top streamers spend thousands of hours to become skilled so they can win a large majority of their matches in the current system, but they stay rank 1 like a lot of people below them in terms of skill
now they are about to be placed on a pedestal that threatens fairness and makes them wait longer between games for better opponents
so not only do they have to wait longer between matches (which isn't the best for streaming since more downtime) since their playtime is likely to place them on a pedistal above most other players they also just face other people who honed they skills more often, both sides are now unhappy because all their practice to be better than the average man has just made their queue times longer and now they will likely be closer to a 50% kill rate because thats what the system is pushing for, there is no longer any point to get good at the game or be good when the game will always average you out for a 50% average, it just feels like a waste of time now
and I feel the same as certain killers I feel I grinded out the skills and the time to preform better than the average survivor and instead of now enjoying and being rewarded by my skill with a high win rate I get harder survivors back to 50% winrate and a slap in the face for all my hours spent ingame because now I get to do average just like everyone else
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You have a very loose definition of the word propaganda, don't you?
People are allowed to have different opinions. Even content creators. If their viewers want to value their opinion, that's their prerogative.
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Maybe they just have a different opinion than you because their experience of the game is different? That isn’t propaganda.
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information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
I'd say that's exactly what they are doing right now. And they're using it for their own gain.
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Yea that's definitely the only reason people that have a lot of experience with the game think it won't work.
Couldn't be anything else like.
1. Unbalanced mess of perks, killers, add ons on both sides
2. Massive amount of rng in maps, totems, spawn points
3. If you're good at survivor you won't get to play against 90% of the killer roster anymore
4. No defined win condition
5. Hidden rating system from a company that has a poor track record of delivering on new features
But hey, as long as streamers have a miserable time too, right?
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Unfortunately people in this community pay too much attention to what streamers have to say instead of playing the game for themselves and seeing if it's good or not.
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I only watch Hexy`s streams and he welcomes SBMM.
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Or, their, you know... Stating their opinion?
You're comparing silly video game ######### to a process most connected to politics and war time. Stop being overdramatic, it's ridiculous.
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- Could be balanced once the devs get more data from the top 5% of the playerbase.
- See above
- This doesn´t affect 95% of the playerbase (you´re save, me too! weeeee)
- When your grade goes up, its a win.
- Maybe thats why it took them so long? They finally figured it out?
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Follow the leader. No one ever wants to lead just follow off a ######### bridge will you.
Not you specifically just these bots we are talking about.
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Whether they do or not is irrelevant, since SBMM is being rolled out anyway. There's nothing they can do, and even if they decide to protest by not playing or whatever (not saying they are - just saying if) other streamers will take their place.
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I mean...
We have things in Favor of Survivors. Listed in this Order
1: Stretch Res
2: Multiple Ds / Unbreaks
3: Pre-throwing / Gen Rushing
4: Swf
5: Less than 5 minute games..
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I'm lost. What does this have to do with?
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Then those streamers must be the ones who want to stomp some low experienced players.
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I kind of hope SBMM does just take into account kill/escape rates. Let the streamers who say "CAMPING IS A STRATEGY!" go against the survivors who say "BRINGING A KEY IS A STRATEGY" and let them go at it while the rest of us have normal matches.
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I noticed this when large streamers that main SWF were arguing until they were blue in the face that SWF doesn't give any advantages. Now the streamers that can win easily while chilling and talking to chat are worried about getting one kill or less against tough teams. I personally find content where the killer is getting dunked on by a top team and complaining about how unbalanced everything is to be the most entertaining content.
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The streamers opinions are anit-SBMM propaganda....so there ya go.
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- They've already said multiple times they don't give a ######### about balancing for the top level
- See above
- Last test was mostly Blight and Nurse games for me as survivor (i'm not save)
- So the current emblem system then?
- It took them 4 years to change iri head + infantry belt from 3 hatchets to 1. Just as long to add color blind settings. Time doesn't equal better.
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From their perspective: their job is to appear to be gods at DbD while also commentating the match and interacting with chat. This is normally doable because matchmaking puts 6k hr streamers against 200 hr players. People watch many of them in part because of their gameplay. Some of them are not nearly as good as their reputation would suggest.
They are likely to have high MMR via playing the game as a fulltime job. Now they suddenly have matches that require their full undivided attention to check the "good at DbD" box in the eyes of their audience. This potentially means their content suffers.
*Some* aspect of their business will be hurt by this change. I love SBMM, but it's totally understandable why they wouldn't want this.
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I will say this about SBMM though. They said that SBMM will get them better stats to balance off of. If by the next three or four chapters no drastic balance changes happen (be it survivor or killer) there will be a lot of players asking a lot of questions. They won't be able to hide behind "the ranking system" anymore.
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Yes, they just want to smurf against bad killers or bad survivors. I've seen them playing against people way below their level, and that's all I see from them which leads me to believe they're cherry picking the matches. It's like they're playing a different game entirely.
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The streamer know they wont be able to do their challenge with mmr otz said it in a video if he was facing swf full stack every game he would have a hard time winning 5 time in a row
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Not really, from what I've seen it is because this game is basically their job, and having every single match play the same seems boring not only for viewers but for the people that play it 8 hours a day
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It depends on who the streamer is
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Guess Otz is gonna have to splurge on paying for more survivor actors for his videos =P
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This is what happen when they are too used to their comfort zone of steamrolling and 4k 90% of the games. Most of the complains are from killer main streamers, they can't achieve a 50 win streak anymore, kawaisou-ni.
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- They also said that we will never get a clown killer or that we won´t have dedicated servers.
- Things can change
- I had a great variety of killers.
- We´ll know once the patch goes live.
- It took them 3 months to nerf Undying.
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You show your arrogance.
You assume you are right and accuse anyone who dares to disagree as someone speading propaganda.
Nice.
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Most I have seen say it is bad for the game as a whole, which is blatantly untrue and you can tell it influences people as I have read plenty of comments from people not high mmr against the change for literally no reason. It depends on who we are talking about, but there is plenty of propaganda.
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And yet the only counter proof you have is an Ad Hominem attack.
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I'm not the one making the claim. The burden of proof falls to you.
I merely made an objectively true observation.
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I agree with the streamers but at least I'm honest, i don't want MMR because i want to keep pwning some noobs and have long winstreaks. In reality didn't really hate it, it's fun to have challenging games, i just wish i could get some chill games inbetween.
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If they don't balance for the top 5% they will lose a big chunk of customers because they are the biggest whales, most people in this bracket spend a lot of money in the game. I really hope you are wrong and that they make the necessary changes ASAP or the game will bleed a lot of old players.
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I don’t really want it for the sole fact it has done nothing to improve my game experience. In all the tests my solo teammates have still been terrible and the killers have been either really good or trash. It cut into developing more important things
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I'm sick of streamers trying to dictate how this game is shaped, their preferences and opinions being regurgitated all over the internet as if they're the final word on DBD. Just because they spend all their time playing the game doesn't mean that they speak for everybody who plays it (especially when many of them, as you correctly observed, benefit from the game being a certain way).
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Way to generalize an entire group. While I am no as big as Otz or Tofu... I am a Twitch Partner and I think one look at my post history will prove your statement to be a broad generalization that is not accurate. I welcome SBMM. If you want to point out certain streamers - do that - do not group us all together.
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This might be considered naming&shaming. And even if not, mentioning some specific streamers always results in some discussions.
And, since you mention Tofu - Tofu is actually for SBMM. He said on Stream that he will play Killer again when SBMM is active, because Killer was boring for him since it was too easy.
So not every Streamer wants to cancel SBMM to get easier games.
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Except that streamers dont really play sweaty, yet the amount of hours they have compensate for public matches.
Expect a lot less released content from people who play this game for fun, because there wont be a lot of fun in high ranks.
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Oh, let me give you a list of things in favor of killers:
- dead zones
- increased gamma(why do you think maps have been made brighter? just like walls have been heightened to combad stretched res)
- stacking gen regression(ruin, undying, tinkerer, pop on killers who are already insane at patrolling gens)
- tunneling
- solo surv(optimal SWF might be the highest potential in the game, but solo survivor is by far the worst, Myers, Clown and old Demo were viable because of solo surv)
- less than 2 minute games because you got tunneled out.
- slugging
Before Bill was released, there was no counter to camping or slugging. DS could easily be juggled. Unbreakable is meant to combat slugging. If you slugged a survivor for more than 20 seconds without hooking them, you deserve the Unbreakable. If you tunnel a survivor, you deserve the DS.
Perks that do not get deserved as a punishment right now:
NOED.
That's it, all other perks are either deserved or earned. NOED is the only outlier where even if survivors spend time cleansing 4 totems during the match, they will get punished by a NOED. That is simply not deserved.
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That's what SBMM will be in store for killer mains.
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Alot more favor survivor than what you think.
1: Someone being tunneled out? take a hit and go back on a gen. he might've lost like 2-3 gens already after said person got hooked.
2: Whole team has stretch res. making them loop extra longer. outwitting your "mindgames"
3: They can spawn on Your hexes. so this point is already invalled
4: What if the whole team has Ds? then you're Super ######### and can't really tunnel. especially if they got the big hit with BT
5: The chances of solo survivor at High Mmr is little to none, you'll get a 98% chance to get more swfs than you do solos,
6: Take into account what if said person got Bt? or Unbreak / ds even if you slugged it. Bam. you screwed
7: Again. Good players counter this very easily. so slugging is useless when there's multiple unbreaks on the team,
8: Noed is simply a Viable choice here, it IS earned due to the fact that as a killer. no matter what. you will ALWAYS lose. not even the top Nurse / spirits will be able to 4k, and you'll see that statistic drop so hard...
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You do know that the majority of the things you listed can also favor towards killer / has a killer equivalent.
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I think a lot of people miss this point.
If you don't play sweaty you shouldn't get sweaty players if you do play sweaty you should get sweaty players.
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