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Wraith needs an add-on nerf now
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Welcome back to "i died to this so its OP"
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People still over hyping and overhating a killer that still can't do ######### against decent survivors...Can't attack in stealth, has slower uncloacking, still needs to bodyblock, still needs deadzones, is now weaker vs pallet camping survivors because of hit validation changes. Still add-on dependant killer.... I can still count more cons than pros for Wraith.
Hit&Run doesn't even work, think about it logically, why would you heal if Wraith is just going away after the first hit? Just finish your gen before he gets back which considering he is probably trying to get 4 first hit's it means he's gonna take a while to come back. His invis speed matters not when he can't attack because he is invis. So you have time to react if he aproaches again.
If you don't heal then he can't use Nurse's Calling. If you have a good Medkit then you're healing yourself faster, which means you might even avoid Nurse's detection cause he might be far away enough before he notices you're healing. Flashligts exist, and that's all you need to know about that. If he has All Seeing Spirit then just pay more attention to your surroundings, you will see or hear him. If he has both All Seeing Spirit and Coxcombed Clapper, silent bell, then he has to make sure he isn't noticed or his aproach means nothing so just use your eyes, plus if he is using that combo his uncloacking is really goddamn slow so even if you get hit and you get injured that's alright, you have the advantage in chase, go for vaults.
I have no idea why people keep complaining about Wraith. You must be playing without sounds and eyes closed honestly.
I've played solely Wraith for 1 month just before the 3rd MMR test and when the MMR test came i got demolished every single time, which only proves i was facing incompetent survivors before the test and got High MMR because of that and only during the test did i face decent survviors and i got absolutly fcked, i could barely get hooks. Hit&Run didn't work, like it obviously shouldn't.
If you're getting demolished by a Wraith then Survivor team is trash.
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Definitely agree with All Seeing/Silent bell nerfs, but that's about it. The same treatment Blight's addons require, Alch ring, even his speed increasing ones.
We'll never see more killer diversity if we sit here and nerf a killer like Wraith. I get it, we see these killers a lot and it can become boring. But everyone is always going to flock to one killer or another. It was Spirit, then it was Freddy, now it's Wraith. I'd rather see a Wraith, even in his current state, over a ton of other killers that exist in this game, like ranged killers.
Yes, bad killers can do quite well with him, especially with Ruin/Undying. But Wraith needed these buffs. Other killers need them, too.
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You have keys, brand new parts etc? So you can't complain about killers having good addons. And it's not Spirit it's only Wraith.
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A few things, first off while silent bell wraith is strong it’s nowhere near as strong as killers like spirit, hag and huntress. So it’s really hard for me to see how this would be fair. Especially with spine chill hard countering stealth playstyles. Second, I honestly agree all seeing blood needs tweaking but I don’t think that’s the best way to go about it. And lastly his windstorm addons already got nerfed pretty damn hard.
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No.
Wraith is fine just the way he is. Pay attention and you'll EASILY stomp him. He doesn't need nerfs or any downsides to his powers.
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How is it not as strong? Not everyone runs Spine Chill - it’s pretty common but not nearly as much as Iron Will, BT, Dead Hard and DS or Unbreakable. On indoor maps this add-on absolutely wrecks the majority of the playerbase (which are casuals). Remember, you basically get a FREE HIT so the movement speed doesn’t even matter.
What tweaking would you suggest for the other 2?
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he is fine and so are his addons even his all seeing addon is fine
It's okay for him to have strong addons.
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This isn’t a nerf to wraith’s base kit though. It’s a nerf to and add on that became OP after they buffed his base kit.
I’ll make it clear that I have no issue with wraith besides this add on. It completely invalidated a valid playstyle for survivor (stealth) for literally no downside even though a lot of the wall hack add ons come with major downsides
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It’s not as strong because silent bell does not completely invalidate looping. Which every other 4.4 killer does.
For all seeing blood what I would like to see is along with possibly a shrink to ten meters instead of 12. A feature added where every time wraith uncloaks with all seeing blood equipped the addon enters an inert or disabled state. In order to reactivate the addon the player must successfully get a “surprise attack” hit. Until wraith does this the addon will do absolutely nothing for him and increase time spent uncloaking by somewhere between 5-10%. Basically I want good players to still be able to benefit from it but stop someone from cloaking and uncloaking 20 times a chase to crutch on the aura reading. Windstorm I personally think needs no changes.
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How about you watch your surroundings more? Wraith doesn't need a nerf because of your inability to swing your mouse.
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I remember hearing everyone saying buff Wraith back in the day and now he's buffed and is now good but, now the survivors want him nerfed because he's got good addons and his base kit is good. Wraith isn't that hard of a killer to vs even with his Silent and Bone Clapper bells and his all seeing addon he's still tolerable you just gotta be more on your toes and aware of your surroundings and good teams even solo players will destroy Wraith I've done it and seen it happen many times cause I main Wraith.
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You can’t on indoor maps or when there’s LOS blockers.
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You absolutely can still look for the red stain and listen for the terror radius. It's not Wraith's fault you chose to sit in a corner and got body blocked when he unstealthed in the next room.
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I play Wraith too. Someone is on a gen, I uncloak silently around a corner and my huge lunge gets me a hit 99% of the time. Spine Chill is usually what makes up for that 1%.
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Tbh I agree with you, but on the other side I enjoy playing with that add-on even if it's hard to play against silent wraith lol. I feel you
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Everyone that thinks he needs a nerf needs to actually play him 10 games in a row at a high rank and try and 4k if you dont 4k every single time he doesn't need a nerf cause some of y'all making him sound like hes jesus and better then the spirit nurse and blight they refuse to nerf
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A killer doesn’t have to get a 4k every game to be op. Spirit is unanimously agreed to be op and her kill rate sits at around 60% as of most recent stats
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It was a joke cause people are describing wraith as if hes unbeatable but I doubt most people complain could even 4k with him 40% of there games if that
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People need to pay attention. You can hear him snarl and his foot steps. This will give you an extra second or two of warning. If you're in a loop, don't let him take control of the pallet. You have to figure out the kind of Wraith they are. Do they rely on hit and run? Maybe they constantly cloak and take advantage of his mega lunge? Once you see their style it's not hard to counter.
Following these things makes Wraith much more manageable regardless of his addons.
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yes but you still are missing out on an addon slot that can augment chase power
like 5/7.5/10% extra cloaked movement speed
8/10/12% uncloak speed (one of his strongest imo is double uncloak)
40/60% faster cloaked break speed
the ghost, the serpent blind warrior white
you just miss out on having some other strong addon or strong addon combination that addon can create, which is the cost for running it
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No.
We are not nerfing wraith AT ALL sir. He's a perfectly balanced M1 killer with add-ons that aren't complete dirt. He's fine as is.
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You know, if people are constantly complaining about a killer, than it at least should be a sign for the devs to look into such killers. People don't just complain for fun.
I understand that there are enough complaints that are just ridiculous, but the higher the amount of complaints are for a killer, the bigger the indication that that killer could maybe need some tweaks. That's not always the case, but certainly sometimes.
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But the thing is, unlike Spirit when people complained about her a lot, Wraith should be on of the bottom of the devs’ priority list right now. He’s not a problem at all, people just like to complain.
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So did they made him harder to see? Recently came back to the game and Wraith was still a joke by then even with the silent bell add ons but Jesus he is so damn hard to see now.
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Why should tracking have a downside? Theres perks already that track with no downside.
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Silent bell is op! Wraith can sneak up to survivors way to easy with it!!! There is zero way of saying he's near.
Wraith: Gurgle gurgle wheeze, global whoosing noises
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Because the add ons effect is extremely powerful? Look at add ons like yakoyoka amulet and engravings which have strong effects for some kind of downside
On a front closer to home scratched mirror has a huge downside
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Wraith is annoying to deal with but unlike Spirit he does have consistent counters that you can perform.
All the things I know about Wraith, All Seeing Blood is kinda his only super BS addon, that's it.
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Love how his add ons weren't an issue until he got buffed. Now that he isn't a little ######### anymore, you survivors just can't stand it!
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He literally has to slow down to uncloak, he is really weak against light, stun him while cloaked and it lasts longer. He was weak in his old state. One of the worst killers. Now that he can't be so easily bullied, you are just mad. He is still easy to counter. Get good
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He's being sarcastic
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Cope
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As an old and new wraith player, I think his add-ons are good as they are. There is no need to nerf any add-ons, but if you were to change, it would be like this: the silent bell add-on would change to purple and have a new effect any surprise attack would leave survivors broken for 90 seconds and the aura add-on would increase in rarity ( honestly , there is no need to nerf this add - on , but I 'll suggest an idea , why not?) and you can hear his terror radius at 16 meters while invisible ( still immune to auras ) . I played a few matches with the aura and terror radius add-ons yesterday, but survivors still complained about the purple add-on, even me with terror radius while invisible ‘-‘. Well, I hope the add-ons won't be nerfed.
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