Dbd is NOT ready for a SBMM system.

If - and I don't believe this will happen - but if all high-skilled players left because of this, then I would assume they shouldn't have been at the top to begin with. Probably because they fear sweat-squads or sweaty killers (I hate the word "sweat" in this context, for the record) will expose their hidden weaknesses. However, if someone is paired against a really good player or squad, it could be becquse they themselves are of the same ilk. So, people of highest skill will face those of highest skill and so on, so forth. Those of middling skill will face equal skilled players as well. It really can only be better than the mismatches we're getting now.

Also, there's no way to know what is skillful, since the devs won't be releasing that information. But they have said it's a lot more than a simple win/lose ratio, so it will probably take into account chases, escapes, average game results of actions within, etc.. It's a lot more complex, and whilst getting a high sacrifice or escape count will have some bearing, it's going to take much more into account than that. Also, this idea of "meta" needs to stop being used as an excuse for being beaten. Perks are worthless if the player does not have the skill, and if I can have 4k's against great survivors with combinations of Brutal Strength, Deerstalker, Distressing and Unrelenting, for example, then certainly many others can if they actually experiment.

This new system can only be a good thing for balance. Maybe not for deliberate derankers or people wanting to look like wannabe gods by slaughtering newer or weaker players, but people who want fair games and to actually be tested against similar-skilled people will have a much better time of it.

The game is definitely going to be based on meta, if killers and survivors are not going to run at least two meta perks, they are going to lose.

The game is going to become a ridiculous thirst, no different from shooting games of battle royales.

I hate this already.

This. It has been demonstrated repeatedly the devs make changes with the entire playerbase in mind, not just the more vocal "sweats" on both sides.

If it works correctly it'll provide more even matches for almost everyone, and keep the game in that party/non-competitive zone.

I get the whole noob stomping isn't fun but just imagine your in the upper echelons of dbd's skilled players and you have to face high quality players regardless of what build you want to explore. Imagine being locked into ruin undying on your killer because you played a couple of games with it and now are stuck with this build otherwise soak 5 loss games.

Tldr you better be willing to soak a lot of losses if you want to meme around and since that will derank you and screw you on rewards players will be more inclined to fight to keep there ranks playing killers and survivors builds that are cookie cutter strong meta builds. I saw what sbm did to lol and I see it happening to dbd. People say they want a skill intensive dbd game but when they realize the side effects and cost comes at a lack of diversity in characters and builds played, significantly more toxic environment where individuals turn on each other over losing then they start to realize maybe dbd is better as a casual fun party game.

Am I the only one who thinks pushing dbd to be more competitive and skill based might be bad for a game which is slow to update and a large rooster of characters who simply can't compete in the higher levels.

Better teammates = more efficient on gens = less time for killers to perform = more meta builds to compensate

Devs built the balance around potato skill, guess we'll see what happens when that element is segregated to the lower end of sbmm.

I do not want to say it, but perhaps that is part of their monetization strategy. Instead of constantly deranking, climbing, deranking, PC players will be encouraged to buy smurf accounts and console, I think would need to purchase the licensed killers again? No idea. But Overwatch basically has that as their main source of revenue. Lol. Maybe DBD wants some of that dank double dipping?

What is bothering me is the fact that if you play and win some matches with a meta build (full slowdown for example) you may lose the opportunity to play "fun build" with that killer because you will go against survivor that are at your "sweat", all out level and not your fun level.

But with that said i didn't play much recently so maybe i'm worried for nothing and there won't be many problem.

It really won't be so bad.

Especially for killers who have like 20ish different mmr ratings.

If you are scared of difficult matches just play killers on rotation. It will take ages before they all will be high mmr.

And it's safe to assume mmr will also drop if you haven't played a killer in a while so that makes it even less likely every single on of your killers will go against dead squads.

People are over reacting. As per usual.

People are going to continue playing their favorite characters, using their favorite perks. The point of the new system is to decrease the frequency of squash matches. Good on BHVR for making that happen. There's literally nothing to complain about...unless you just want squash matches...which would mean YOU are a part of the problem 🤔

Since the first day it was clear that MMR was à bad idea (and too pricey fpr what they ciuld have done quicker and better otherwise)

In the 2 years pf developpment we STILL have the exact SAME questions over the MMR, it still is unclear what your rank/objectives etc is,

The game is not balanced enough for that and got way too much RNG

Games will only get more sweaty

But yeah, i guess the forum players that play the game à lot cant give any form of feedback (that will be ignored anyway) to some devs that dont seem to be above rank 10 and dont seem to play the game that much in the end

I don't think anything could ever convince me to use the meta if I don't want to. If you feel the need to bring out the sweat to enjoy this game then maybe you should be put with others doing the same

For me it's completely reversed. MMR on has generally given me great soloQ teammates who coordinate very well, do gens, last a decent amount of time in chase...

Quite a few even forced the killer to target them when they could afford to get hooked and the others couldn't, which is generally not a thing you ever see outside of swf.

Hope so!

Quicker and better: an easy rework of the current rank system while making pipping harder and spreading the points more in the 4 different categories to force Survivor to do more then just gens, leave = 1 pip

It would have been at least worth à shot, because people complain about how bad survivors or killers are still all gathered in the red ranks because of how pipping is super easy

Also having an MMR means competitive gameplay, and for that you NEED to know your objectives to rank up and down, why? Because of not, players will just take the basic objectives and rush through them as quickly as possible, so surv have no reason not to gen rush, and killer not to tunnel, which leads to an unhealthy and bad gameplay

And thus what i mean by "increasing the sweatyness" as people that wanna go high ranks will tryhard even more for that

Also RNG is a big problem for an MMr, imagine you wanna climb the "ranks" as you play, say, Billy, and now you see you are on a map lile Lery...basically you gotta play almost powerless, and this is one exemple over so so many, How Loops chain, which loops you got, which BUGS are gonna f over you

Beside since the system probably doesnt care which perks you got, add ons and map offerings...it will basically mean only strong addons and only strong survibor maps for high MMr as they can choose whoch map they wanna go in, and basically, why wouldnt you just play on your best maps?

MMR will also mean that fun build/certain killers will be less and less seen as you climb the ranks and face only the same 3 killers, 5 at best

Also it will not create à "perfect balance of 2 kills and 2 escape" the higher the MMR the more youll see that survivors can do the gens with minimal casualties and so make 4 escapes with very fiew hooks, unless you play the best killers with the best meta perks to even compete

just one thing i will have to disagree on:

you will not be seeing Deathslingers at high MMR.

yeah he is good at chases, but he is also slow and immobile, meaning that its impossible for him to keep up with the gens.

I don't watch them, so I don't know.

But in general, you don't need to be a top player to be able to create something for top players. Just think about sport equipment manufacturers, competition organizers, etc. Or another example, you don't need to be a top singer to be able to manufacture a great microphone for top singers, etc.

Can´t wait for it to release. Because then the issues will be more obvious to everyone.

There's no easy way to determine skill, via coding in this game. The biggest issue is everyone at the top is just gonna be Nurse, Spirit, Blight. It'll make an already stale meta the boring status quo where every game you're in it's the same pile over and over. You're gonna see the same perks in every game because they're the most abusable or the only thing that lets killers stall the game long enough to at least get a few hooks or some kind of pressure before the gens all pop and the survivors BM at the gate or teabag at the hatch with their key.

The fact that BHVR said they hope this helps them balance the game is laughable. They've proven they don't have a clue how to play their own game or how it's being played. The content all over twitch / youtube is similar, even their fog whisperers are sick of seeing DS/DH/Unbreakable in every game. Every time a new playstyle emerges or a mechanic is exposed as being either too weak or strong rather than fix it they just release more perks to address the issue and then those perks get ignored because the underlying problems were never addressed and the same meta we've had for years remains.