Worst Killer You could have released (pinhead)

Cenobite is weak, his slowdown is kind of a joke. His main power requires pretty decent skill on the killer's part, and it's easier to dodge for survivors than Nemesis's tentacle. The effect his power has on survivors at loops is identical to Clown's but with more risk and more skill requirement. And most importantly, if survivors hold W, he can't do much. Another killer on the pile that get beaten by survivors putting a weight on their Shift + W keys and going to get pizza while their team holds M1.

Here's the fact of the matter, if the killer is beaten by W, they're on the weaker end. If their power is easy to dodge and hard to hit, they're inconsistent (less so the more skill you have and the weaker the survivors are). Pinhead is both. This means, they're a killer that when played at their max level, will give you decent results against average survivors, might even be possible to win against some good survivors with the right build, and against really good coordinated survivors you will just hold W and wonder what life choices led you to spend money on this killer.

My prediction is he's gonna be a low-mid tier killer that will depend on most of his build being gen slowdown just to have a chance against most survivor teams that aren't braindead.

I hope that I am wrong, in 2 weeks or so. I want the Cenobite to be a good, usable killer that doesn't spend 80% of the match holding W waiting to catch up to survivors, because I do so love Hellraiser.

Right now, it just feels like it's not worth my money. At least Nemesis's power feels snappy and responsive instead of clunky and awkward.

Yeah just played another, he got 0 kills, just 3 hooks. I'm happy to let killers practice on me, but they keep downing me in the gates instead of practicing 😅😂

And i bet this is how the majority are playing him lol. They just seem to think killers should turn up and stomp.

I enjoy Pinhead, im usually getting 4k's every match and having so much fun with his chains round the killer shack and through buildings. Even managed to get some chains on someone from the basement who i knew was stood outside. He was just waiting there and didnt expect it. When people learn his power correctly, people wont be crying so much about him. He does need a few buffs though, he is by no means a strong killer. He just requires some thought and skill right now.

It sounds like you only played one game as him and then got your ass whooped.

quit complaining and actually get good at him.

How is automatically assuming a killer being good without doing any research anything but foolish.

Hell 9/10 he isn't actually bad but people need to figure him out first.

Almost every single killer released lattely were buffed in the midchapter after release

He barely used a chain portal. He could have played with those a bit instead of downing us with an m1 in the exit gates. Id have left the survivors even, and practiced through vaults and at targets lol

They're also basically useless without specific perks like M&A on Deathslinger, and even then it's a 110% killer that survivors can just outzone since they're only strat is typically a 3-gen on any non-indoor / small map. They can't afford to be runnin' all over the map lookin' for chases.

Twins is a cool concept, but one survivor can just hold their power hostage the entire game which is pretty bizarre when it happens because you're still one guy off gens and stuff but it's more than a fair trade for how outnumbered the killer is for 3/4 of the game.

is he that bad? I already didn't plan on buying pinhead because he seems boring like nemesis

Once again, i never once said he was strong. I disagreed with your topic title and stating he's the weakest killer in the game. And once again you push a narrative to justify yourself.

I also said i bet you aren't playing him correctly. Which i stand by. Even the guy you quoted has stated he's not played him with addons. Id like to see most killers do amazingly with no addons.

Hes not boring, hes not that strong, but hes really fun to play. The OP is just full of hyperbole. Even to go so far as to say i've said things i havent simply for disagreeing that he isnt the worst/weakest killer in the game.

I agree he is under powered, i would go so far as to say bottom tier, id say mid bottom? If played correctly hes better than some, but i wouldnt say hes strong at all. Its all about the mind games and the slowdowns. On the PTB i played him like i would a freddy or a wraith. Just go in, chase, get looped, feel annoyed. Now i know how and when to use his teleport properly and where to start a chain placement, i feel way stronger and this is what i think people aren't doing, especially having played against 8 Pinheads tonight where only one teleported to me or my friend and we had the lament box 80% of the time it was to be picked up. They use their chains stupidly aswell, usually in a chase from a mile back instead of getting closer and using it at mid range or trying to mind game round a loop.

I agree with the other things you say, he is nowhere near closer to being as powerful as huntress or Slinger. Clown idk, see for me, clown again is weak because so many dont use his power to full potential. They just always use the slowing gas and never the faster antidote. The ones who use the antidote properly in good places can do well. The average clown player doesnt use it correctly, or throws it where a survivor can easily get to it aswell. Some dont even use it at all.

This whole "new killer being weak" has happened every new chapter now since Twins. Because their powers take time to get used to and need more testing to see what needs buffing. But it always dies down after a month or so even before buffs/nerfs happen because people have all the perks on the killers. Thats what everyone seems to be forgetting right now aswell, people play the new killers with sub optimum builds and come here whineing that the new killers crap. They're forgetting they sometimes have to run spies in the shadows, beast of pray, Bitter Murmur and Monsturous shrine. When they get the better perks games will go a bit easier for them.

I remember what they said about Slinger. That he'd be a worse Huntress and anyone who'd play a ranged killer would play Huntress.

And Twins are the most annoying camping/slugging killers out there.

And if I remember correctly they said the same about PTB spirit.

Interesting idea about the chains. The teleport i believe will be tweaked. See this is where i have sympathy with BHVR over balancing. When new killers come out and they're very strong, or an ability is very strong, this forum and their twitter gets absolutly flooded with survs whineing about being unable to play against, too OP etc. The hyperbole with underpowered killers does seem to be less. So with every new killer it does seem like they are releasing them a bit weak and then fine tuning them so that they seem more powerful in the next patch. Really they should probably be doing a longer Beta for these killers rather than 3 weeks so they can be released in a better place.

Chains should be doing damage after a few hits though. Definitely agree with that.

It never fails to make me laugh when a new challenging killer releases, gets ######### the first week and then when people actually learn the strengths and playstyle they say he is strong. Can't wait for all these posts calling him the worst to make him get buffed and then make him the most annoying killer to go against lmao he is already very strong once you actually take the time to learn a hard killer

Yeah. Even with the purple add on the chains break so quickly.

And getting pallet stunned while they are chained is so frustrating

It's even worse if you land a sneaky hit across floors or some distance. Why are there even range add-ons in his kit?