If SBMM is going to be this sweaty show whos in swfs

Majority of players are solo

I don't know what teams you're facing. But when I play solo half of my teammates seem to lack common sense. Anyway it's normal to remember the loses. Because I'm pretty sure you win more of your matches than you lose.

I care about it because it's a game I've dedicated a lot of my time to. I want it to better to its audience, but in my opinion, that means more effort put into the actual game and optimization. I don't give a single ######### about balance. I'm not butthurt at all, actually. Like I already said, I am just genuinely confused.

In your original post, you say

"Show whos in swfs so im not constantly facing them."

So you want killers to be able to see who's in a survive with friends so you, and other players, can avoid them. This would punish them for using a feature that is in the game. Your original post is all about complaining about SWF and the fact that you have to play against them because a good portion of them are sweaty. And no, they aren't different. You're asking to see SWF which is a 'built in aspect' of the game. You can literally invite people from the Survivor lobby. SWF is just as built-in as Killers are.

I don't play in SWF, and the very rare times I do it's with one single friend, and we play it only to ######### around. I play Killer 65% of the time, and the other 35% is Solo queue.

I think they should lock Survivor items past a certain threshold, but that isn't at all involved in the conversation.

You're asking to be able to avoid survivor groups you don't want to play against.

I'm saying that if that happens, the inverse also has to happen- Survivors don't have to go against Killer's they don't want to. Both are terrible ideas.

Is there a portion of SWF's who break the game? Yes. Does that mean we punish everybody that uses the system? No. That's foolish.

It doesn't matter. If you have high MMR, you're going to get SWFs more often or god-tier solo players. Just eat the match.

I never said anything about comms or stretched res.

And yes, SWF's not getting to play the game because they dared to play with their friends is a punishment.

BHVR has no reason to test it if they don't view it as a problem. Which, judging by the fact that it's never been changed, they don't.

Because it's been five years, and SWF hasn't gotten any 'nerfs'? In fact, they literally made it easier to invite people to your own lobby? And they have literal SWF voice channels in their official Discord server? Why would they embrace it so much if they viewed it as a problem?

Of course it has advantages. But the point I am making, and I think many others have made the same (or similar) is that being in a SWF team doesn't mean we're unbeatable or amazing. Not everyone who is in a group is super good at the game. We do play to have fun, and don't rage or get mad when we lose, and don't use certain items. No flashlights, no keys. But we do play with the spirit of the game and do our best to complete objectives and help each other. And yes, being in a group conveys advantages we wouldn't have otherwise. But honestly, it just puts us on par with average-to-good killers.

Believe me, I have been a killer against full SWF groups where everyone had a flashlight or key with purple or pink add-ons, and they all had DS and Die Hard. It's absolutely no fun playing against that. But I don't get the sense that that's the majority of SWF groups that are encountered. I get the sense most of them are closer to me and my friends.

I mean people know this. But it doesn't make their stance right. Its basically them saying "We're not going to balance this game or any aspect of it even though we know it breaks the core gameplay loop" That right there should be enough to quit. But people don't because they've inhaled dubious amounts of Copium to think that one day they will.....

It isn't just a portion man, yall keep inhaling this copium like everything is fine....everybody knows damn well what kind of information an SWF gives. And everybody knows how powerful that information is, and everybody knows what parts of the game you can break with said information. That same information is so powerful it comes in the form of perks that have cooldowns and requirements. With SWF you don't have a cooldown, and said information IS INFINITE!!!!!!

A lot of killer mains think they are so good they deserve to 4k every match and that when they don't, the game was somehow unfair to them. They don't realize that if MMR is working properly, and they are one of the best killer mains, all they can really hope for is a 2k on average - ie a draw.

I did read your comments. I literally quoted you. And it looks more to me like you revised your stance a bit after getting some pushback. In other words, you moved the goalposts from 'I want to see SWF groups so I can avoid them' to 'I just want to see them so I can sometimes maybe avoid them' to 'I just want to see them so I can know if I lost fairly or not.' None of those are direct quotes - just summations of your shifting positions.

You still use language like "cheated" to describe losing to a SWF team. How is using a built-in game mechanic cheating? And no, don't bring up comms. I can say with utmost confidence that the developers knew people in groups would be using comms when they made this game. Voice comms is not a new, revolutionary thing that came about after the development cycle of this game began. It was expected and planned for all along. In other words, the devs don't consider the use of comms cheating. Nor do they consider playing with a group cheating. So why do you?

Sure, let's test your idea. I'm fine with it being on the test server. And while we're testing that, let's also lock killers out of queue every time they dodge a lobby. Because knocking down their MMR for leaving (which is what you suggested) isn't really a penalty. That's just giving killers who want to seal club an imminently abuse-able mechanic to do so.

I legit did a single time in almost 3k hours, but unfortunately I don't remember the team name. I was Oni and got carried by Top Knot (sue me), but even then I just barely won. It was a really fun game all around.

has anyone actually considered that DBD is a party game....... that is asymmetrical. it's meant to be a randomized game to prevent you from getting bored.

you will always have outliers that make the game seem "unbalanced" or sweaty, but that's just how it is.

the point of SWF was to be able to play with your friends, idk where people got this notion that it's purposefully meant to ruin a killer's day. trying to balance something that has an extreme amount of variables (casual players, competitive players, people who understand fundamentals, people who don't, people having different reaction times, people who are sharp on their controls, etc.), let alone with a game that has a bunch of variables (RNG, spawn systems, map tiles, offerings, killer perks and powers, etc.) is unorthodox. showing who's in a party and who isn't simply because skill-based matchmaking hasn't gotten a chance to regulate itself is completely unnecessary.

SBMM has only been out for maybe a week. it takes about a month for it to put players where it needs to be. making changes to parties, exposing them, etc. won't make matchmaking's algorithm resolve itself any faster.

I think your on the right track lol I don't watch dbd tournaments so I had no idea who she was till I was told last night. It's weird that you'll happily stream, but not during a tournament? That's pretty sus.

I don't know the forums terms when it comes to hinting/naming people so I won't say anything but I'm pretty certain we both know the person.

From what I was shown it was proven they were banned for cheating.