I Think I'm Done With Killer

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  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    It benefits low mmr killers a lot, and lets just say there is a monetary incentive for them to keep it that way. Believe it or not, new players don't enjoy 4 man flashlight sabo squads trolling them the entire duration of a match.


    Don't get me wrong, experiencing those clowns inspired me to get better quickly. But I am not your average new player. Most of them just gave up which is WHY I had to play against those red rank swf as a green killer in the first place.

  • SloppyVoldemort
    SloppyVoldemort Member Posts: 452

    Maybe you can make a comparison between your main killer account and the alt killer account. If you notice no difference, then there might be something wrong with the mmr altogether.

    Like I understood it, your mmr should be high for a killer you play a lot, and really low for a killer you never play.

    Example: Your blight is 100, but a killer like trapper (just saying one of course) you never touched, should be 0.

    So if a brand new account, after 20 games or something, is not different than your main killer account, then there might be a problem with mmr.

    Of course you should play a bit less good then normal, so if there are really new players, you can give them a chance.


    My mmr is not that high, so I think I would not see a difference.



    I hope my post makes a bit more sense, I'm really tired and can't concentrate too good this moment :)

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
    edited September 2021

    I know how you feel, but well we all know what we are up against, its BHVR. I stopped playing dbd pretty much anyway and play it just rarely a few games a week and I am happy like that, maybe you should also take a steb back.

    Here a friendly recommendation, 7 days to die will release soon a new big patch with tons of new content and graphic updates, its a open world zombie tower defense survival game with crafting and block based building, so its alot of fun playing and building with friends and since the new patches they bring out with clear intention to support the game with alot of effort I have a way better time then I ever had with dbd.

  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 6,633

    "High MMR" isnt really that high

    Dataminers have shown this new system is basically just the old one, but just like the beginning of the old rank reset, (Im talking about pre Plague) itll only be a matter of time until the potatoes reach it

  • Vyne456
    Vyne456 Member Posts: 848

    I don't mostly play killer because I just don't wanna deal with longer queues, which this game has like millions of players playing which is sad.

  • justbecause
    justbecause Member Posts: 1,521

    It's same for survivors don't give up of what u have fun with because of bhvr ######### up for 8439 time

  • lauraa
    lauraa Member Posts: 3,195

    Do you have cross play enabled? I'm facing the exact same survivors no matter the killer, or even if I switch to survivor lol but that's because I'm on Series S 5.2.2

  • SloppyVoldemort
    SloppyVoldemort Member Posts: 452

    I think the game is getting stale at this time. Okay, they still develop the game with the map reworks, but the decisions they make are sometimes mind baffling. And that's fine, it's their game. But I don't always get why they change things nobody asked for, like the HUD. Maybe it was for the Pinhead chapter, but did we really need a HUD change for that one hook in the left bottom of the screen?


    Also the grind is just getting terrible every patch with content either. Imagine being a new player who wants to prestige a few survivors or killers or just get a lot of teachables. Every 3 months there are 6 or sometimes 9 new perks to get. The BP gain is so abysmal, even with BBQ or WGLF. And they have acknowleged the grind too, but it takes ages to even get a glimpse of a change or suggested change.


    I can also imagine you see almost the same killers at high mmr too as survivor or need to play certain killers to even get a chance to get a kill. That's making the game pretty boring as well. Especially when the mmr is just broken like Pulsar is experiencing (playing killers who you never played before and still getting the same survivors in your lobbies).


    I hope I didn't derail the topic too much with this post :$

  • Squirrel_Thicc
    Squirrel_Thicc Member Posts: 2,677

    Sbmm is destroying this game currently

  • OldHunterLight
    OldHunterLight Member Posts: 3,001

    It is a compliment, you are one of the nicest people in here.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,793

    I wasn't sure if you were being nice (which you are, so thank you :3) or saying I belonged with the survivor mains for my opinions lmfao

  • OldHunterLight
    OldHunterLight Member Posts: 3,001
    edited September 2021

    From what I can tell, you are one of the most unbiased players in here, speaking facts for both sides.

    Edit: I meant that you speak facts for both sides.

  • fogdonkey
    fogdonkey Member Posts: 1,567

    Do you have cross play enabled? I remember that long time ago when I disabled it I was quite often matched up with the same people.

  • solidhex
    solidhex Member Posts: 890
    edited September 2021

    it doesn't mean 2 kills 2 escapes every game, but rather 1 game you win, 1 game you lose. An average of 2k can also mean five games 4k of the killer, then five games 0k of the killer. Dbd is designed in a way so that most matches are clear wins/ stompings from one side, the close ones with 2k/2e are actually pretty rare

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,381

    I'm not sure if you are only claiming that this mmr system sucks, or if you are claiming that this mmr system sucks and the game is unbalanced.

    Losing five gens after 2 chases with Blight is obviously not the game balances fault.

    But the mmr seems to not be working as intended. Which sadly isn't the biggest surprise.

  • Nathan13
    Nathan13 Member Posts: 6,706

    I’m taking a break from the game. Just wish there were other games I had that could take me away from DBD.

    And I love DBD but the current state it’s in is not good.

  • Haddix
    Haddix Member Posts: 1,048
    edited September 2021

    You're right.

    But even then, if kill rates dropped all the way down to 50%, that indicates NOTHING about how well designed the game is, but I expect BHVR to not really care and go "Oh, cool, stats are perfect! Game is balanced!" because why would I expect anything but laziness and fear to make impactful changes from BHVR.

    If those 2k games were only possible because of a camp and an endgame kill with NOED or a quick tunnel and a camp to follow it (and I am VERY, VERY confident, from experience on both sides, that a LOT of those 2k games against high MMR players are going to be due to camping and tunneling), then that only shows how awfully designed the game's balance is. I can't even count how many games that I've had to both camp and tunnel to get any kills against high MMR teams because there's absolutely no point in trying to defend a map that's impossible to defend, and I HATE playing this way, but it is what it is. I'm not the only one, that's for damn sure.

    BHVR needs to stop hyper-focusing on statistics and numbers and actually address what their game really is at the core. But again, why expect anything but laziness?

  • xEa
    xEa Member Posts: 4,105

    This is actually true, but you make it sound like its a negativ thing.

  • Nathan13
    Nathan13 Member Posts: 6,706

    Killer queue times have been insanely long but survivors it’s instant. And the bugs with the new console may have something to do with it.

  • CrashofRhinos
    CrashofRhinos Member Posts: 30

    I admit I don’t understand how his argument about blight losing 5 gems in 2 chases is for sure not a balance issue. If he is not great at blight I agree, that is a personal play issue. If he is fantastic at blight, and it happens constantly, that shows a balance issue.

    Ignoring that high MMR killers, proven great at the game, can’t compete with survivors is dangerous. Even survivors answering honestly admit that at high levels they see it.

  • Friendly_Blendette
    Friendly_Blendette Member Posts: 2,923

    Ive heard it fluctuates by 200 mmr out 0f 1900. If you have maxed mmr on one killer a killer you have never played will be at 1700. Base is 1100.

  • Munqaxus
    Munqaxus Member Posts: 2,752

    Why don't you just play bots if you want to get 4k every game.

  • Munqaxus
    Munqaxus Member Posts: 2,752

    He said 2 kills/2 escapes is nuts. Who wants a horror game where you get a 50% kill rate. Sounds pretty much like he wants 3 to 4 kills every game.

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904

    Win and lose are undefined at the moment. There has been plenty of talk about average 50% escape representing a balanced game design which kind of flies in the face of the theme is my point.

  • Munqaxus
    Munqaxus Member Posts: 2,752
    edited September 2021

    Well, how many should you be able to kill. The answer is either 3 or 4. (Since half is a bad answer)

    What do you think the kill/escape rate should be? You are playing a competitive game, how would you balance it so that it's fair for all the players?

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904
    edited September 2021

    Don't bother, a reply like this screams I either didn't read or can't comprehend what was said but I'll say something about it anyway. Its just foolish trolling.

    A solo play mode against bots would be great its the only reason I still play Battlefront and Friday the 13th. I would love them to implement custom mode bots.

  • Jarol
    Jarol Member Posts: 1,985

    I'm still pissed off, I've also played Freddy that I haven't played for months and in the end many SWF squads throw me knowing that my ability with him is still undefined. As I arrived 1 year ago on the 4th anniversary, I want to say that the MMR is a complete garbage for the killer side and they are lately giving more priority to the survivor than to the killer. The only fun thing about survivor are the chases and nothing else, the fun for the killer is the power of him and winning chases.

  • Huge_Bush
    Huge_Bush Member Posts: 5,396

    Never said everyone did. Devs should still balance around communication and implement something like a preset text wheel or something and make the game more fair for solo and killers.

  • Verconissp
    Verconissp Member Posts: 1,588

    Welcome to what i've been trying to WARN people the last 2 years. Nobody wanted to even believe in how bad this SBMM Is in this shite game that's purely RNG on weather or not you'll have a good time,

    even if you got the Best RNG as killer. you'll still lose due to alot of factors. (I.E 6 second chances on perks. + the 3 hooks, etc)

    Sbmm was a terrible thing they tried to add. i already knew this bs outcome, and sadly i was right. even i'm having to sweat when i didn't have to, and i don't dare touch other killers because of how bad it is,

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    All I can is new survivors aren't abusing strong loops or pallets. You could EASILY reduce the impact of high level survivors without compromising new players whatsoever.

  • Underdawg
    Underdawg Member Posts: 193

    If you hate playing that way, then why do you play that way? Is this like when people hate watch a TV show? Are you hate-playing DBD?

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Yeah individual killer sbmm is broken vote with your wallet that is the only thing that matters to them

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,777

    Well, starting fresh would mean that I have no recorded MMR.

    Are you saying that on that account I should only play one Killer, then switch to one I've never played and see what I get in terms on matchmaking?

  • Thrax
    Thrax Member Posts: 974

    I use playing this game with a friend as torture when I'm upset with them. Works like a charm. 10/10

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 8,676

    your losing games so your MMR isn't the highest.

    Improve your killer play before referencing high-level gameplay. Its not imbalanced at your level of play. Also Its not true that Nurse and Spirit are not only killers played. other killers are played, they're just under-powered and lose more often than they win. In fact I feel like blight is being played more than Spirit now a days. Its sad that spirit has become a rare gem.

    Killer matchmaking should have always been like this. the old one way too easy and way too inaccurate. If you never enjoyed playing killer, than that is ok. you can play survivor. Just don't complain about killers or give any feedback on killers on a role you do not play.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Come over we treat former killer mains well I am a convert myself 😎

  • KateDunson
    KateDunson Member Posts: 714

    100% feel the same. Seriously talking bhvr, turn off this trash system

  • Axx
    Axx Member Posts: 392

    You would be surprised by how many people don't care or see the problems competent survivor cause balance wise. Most that don't see an issue usually only play survivor, as you probably already would've guessed. Now, I'm not saying the OP of the just do challenges comment above doesn't see an issue, I'm just saying there are many that don't see an issue and don't care. I'm also not saying people shouldn't be allowed to be good at survivor. The only reason they are so strong and hold so much power over trials is because they devs allow it with the way the don't factor in optimal survivor players in their game balance decisions.

  • SomberNokk
    SomberNokk Member Posts: 732

    Anytime I get stomped real bad recently in this game I remember that I cant take anything personal from someone getting gassed up from playing the easy mode and move on.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,711

    I haven't had any real difficulty with my matches on either side, but my killer wait times are almost reason enough not to play :(

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 8,676

    right..... um. look, Blight isn't weak killer. he is very capable killer who is in a good position in term of power-level who has relatively deep learning curve. I wish other killers were closer to him. I'm sure you could improve. your comment is disconnected from your original post. Losing is clearly problem for you.

    Nobody said playing killer was an easy role. your complaining about inability to easily win, so clearly, it is all about losing. winning does often correlates with fun. Your just not used to playing against strong survivor teams. Strong survivor teams existed in old matchmaking, however because old matchmaking was pretty random, it wasn't very consistent. I am comfortable at playing against these teams because I knew the strength of survivor, so none of these teams really phase me. Eventually you'll get used to facing these teams and hopefully be able to challenge them without it being an auto-lose for you. It is simply part of learning experience of killer.

    On another note, I do agree that many of weaker killers are not very fun to play against skillful players, but this is largely balance problem with those killers. It doesn't help that BVHR has had some very anti-fun killer changes... such as Billy rework and freddy changes. Hopefully we get more positive fun killer changes and not these-low level non-sense changes.