STOP NERFING KILLERS
This game is already very survivor sided especially at high levels if they keep nerfing Killers into the ground the game will die the killer has to have fun too and if they make it to where it's not fun to play killer anymore people will simply not play it and you have to have killers to play the game they have to stop looking at it from only the survivors perspective look at things from the killer's perspective. The killer already have way more to do that it's a 4v1 and they keep adding more stuff for the killer to do I think these Boone totems are going to be terrible for the game the killer doesn't have time to go hunt totems when he's got four survivors working on gens. They've already basically killed Billy and Freddy by nerfing them now Spirit is going to die and I expect Nurse will probably be next then Blight because they are the only two killers that can actually compete at high levels. Instead of nerfing strong killers how about buffing the weaker ones like Pig or Myers or Ghostface.
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Maybe nurse will get nerf this patch they are touching her this patch.
Its a bit soon to jump to conclusion the thing we know for sure is spirit will be gone and for now we have blight and nurse for the high level survivor player
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Exactly so out of all the killers only 2 can actually compete. I have a feeling if they keep going in the direction they are they are going to kill the game because they're going to run off all the killer players. It's time for them to start showing The Killers some love instead of only focusing on the survivors
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Well, I guess history repeats itself. Killers stopped playing the game a few years ago, before I even heard of this game, and queue times were over 20 minutes (I think I heard they were over 30 but not sure) and the devs were forced to nerf a lot of the overpowered survivor perks/loops and buff killers.
Perhaps it'll happen again, though I don't think it's that bad. I think it just means the really good players are only going to be seeing Nurse over and over, while the rest of us will just have to get used to getting tunneled and camped.
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Lol……. Survivor sided eh. Get real
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Yes in my opinion I think this game is survivor sided.
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What constitutes high level to you? Old Red Ranks? Competitive? Strong but non-comp SWF's? The fact that people could 4K 90% of their games with a killer like Legion just makes me roll my eyes at this survivor-sided claim. Some aspects of this game are survivor-sided, but as a whole? Hell no. At any point you can choose to tunnel/camp and stomp the majority of public match games. Or just down people quickly for the same effect, though some killers are indeed so ######### that it may not be an option. Luckily, bad killers like Trapper are getting buffed. Slowly.
The game is fundamentally unbalanced. But you know what? It doesn't stop people from stomping most of their games with crap killers like Legion or Pig. MMR makes this a bit harder, but they still 4k more than half their matches. So I do think killers deserve to be looked into just as much as survivors do. Just because you can't keep up doesn't mean killers that are actually high level in skill cannot.
Note, some people even won with Bubba against Team Oracle. There's more to it than just a select few killers that essentially stack so many advantages in their favour that even broken levels of teamwork (that isn't normal for public games) can't keep up with. And I'm fine with these being nerfed. Competitive is a joke. Very strong killers should teeter around A tier.
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all hail the king of dbd
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Like I said before lol, you must only play killer to have that opinion, go play some solo then come back and say it’s survivor sided.
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Or maybe you are just a really bad killer.
So tired of people assuming everyone is having the same problem YOU are having. I don’t play Nurse, I don’t play Spirit and I do just FINE.
Stop blaming the character for your own bad skills.
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And some people say you only see survivor rants on here
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i mean spirit is the only killer i genuinely think was broken.
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That's all I play is solo survivor when I don't play killer so you actually think them nerfing the good killers in this game is good do you want to face nothing but tunneling face campers every game?
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I never said I was having problems and I never blamed characters for my skills I didn't say anything about my skills so I don't really know what you're talking about all I'm saying is if they keep nerfing the good killers all you're going to see is tunneling and face camping at high MMR
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I feel like people are only focusing on the survivor sided comment I made and not actually reading my points. Agree or disagree every killer they have nerfed is basically dead?
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So basically what we saw in lower skilled killers pre-MMR. Gotcha.
Because guess what? Those Campers and Tunnelers you speak of, are also Spirits, are also Nurses, are also Blights.
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I feel like people are focusing on the survivor sided comment I made and not actually reading the rest of my points so let me just ask agree or disagree every killer they have nerfed is basically dead?
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I really don't understand what point you're trying to make are you disagreeing with me or just trying to argue yes every killer is capable of tunneling and face camping that's not what this post was about if you would read the whole thing
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;)
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Oh ok I misread srry
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Buffing Trapper was nice. Hope they keep buffing weaker killers to maybe Spirit or Nurse level just because they need to be able to compete against SWFS.
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Killer play really needs some tlc to improve gameplay. Doesn't have to be hard buffs to every killer, but qol changes to diminish the clear gap when facing newbie survivors and veterans. So much of the balance is geared towards subpar survivor play but doesn't address when they actually get better.
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Oh my bad dude I looked at it wrong I thought you quoted me. Srry bro
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I totally agree like I said now they need to look at Pig,Myers and ghostface.
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Devs already said that they don't want to balance the game for high-level play.
If you want to compete against good players, you have to play a different game than dbd
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But it is what you are making it about. You are claiming that due to "nerfs" in the new MMR, survivors are just going to face Campers and Tunnelers? Are you not?
To which my response is very simple. Basically the same thing they were facing before, only now more frequently.
Camping and Tunneling are not exclusive to only certain killers, just because you have a stronger killer doesn't mean THAT player won't opt for that playstyle. It just makes it worse.
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Yes and no I'm saying that if they keep making it more difficult and not as fun for Killers then people are simply not going to play killer and the game is going to die that was my original comment I only started talking about the face camping and tunneling later but originally I'm just saying that have to think about the killer having fun too and nerfing and adding more objectives for the killer is not good in my opinion
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it's all about rotation of meta killers. This will always happen sooner or later. Same with survivor or killer perks, DS, Iron Will, Hex: Blood Favor, Hex: Retribution, etc
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Yeah as it stands the game is way to tilted to the survivor's side considering you need killers to play the game you want to make us happy not give us a second job with no pay.
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I can't wait the day when they will nerf blight mains :) The most ugly, boring and broken killer in this game. Good luck playing him in future.
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usually this sort of "kill the game" talk is laughably hyperbolic, but
It might legit happen at this point. Since the pallet "validation" (i.e. really just a pallet buff) until now, killer is just getting more and more unfun. At this point it just feels like I'm supposed to entertain the survivor players for BHVR, not that I'm actually playing a game or competing against anyone, I'm just an "actor". Well ######### that, unless BHVR is going to send me a check
I've played this game for years, clocked well over 4000 hours, and the last couple of months I just have not been able to bring myself to play. I'm waiting to see what really comes of these "big changes" they're talking about, but the first post so far as been majorly disappointing. I'm giving it until Halloween myself, and if they don't realize how dogshit they've made the killer experience, I'm just giving up on BHVR
Pretty sure when it gets so bad it starts being enough to turn away literal addicts like me, there might actually be a real problem
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thats just wrong you should take a loot at statistics or people will realise that you are a bafoon
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I did. Made a post about it a few weeks ago. I was upset it took me 8 games to get my unhook challenge because of how seldomly people went down. I can easily run a killer 3+ gens if they aren't smart enough to stop chasing me. If my team was full of people like me, which, with MMR, it often is, the killer cannot win. Red ranked, all achievements, 2k+ hours in this game. And I will tell you, this game is survivor sided.
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You do know you can counter blight by... standing in front of him. Literally. He has a minimum distance between him and terrain when he wants to rush. You can just pin him in and force him to lose his power. It's hilarious. People would know to use this if they played Blight.
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I don’t know what the survivors of this game want anymore
The killer is too weak, they ridicule and never respect him
The killer is too strong, they complain and keep weakening all the killers
The difficulty of operation is directly proportional to the intensity. Every powerful killer takes an unimaginable long time to practice.
I respect all powerful survivors and killers. I have honed killers and survivors myself and know the advantages and disadvantages of both.
I am very sad to see that many people want killers to become a playground without resistance.
But I always need to pay attention to these proposals, because they are connected to all the players who love this game, I love this game
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They're just touching killers' add-ons that are never used, it's not nerf nor buff.
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What side do you think it is then?
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Reread the patch they are touching addon they are never use or use to much this is not a good thing for killer we all know what happen when the dev touch the killer addon
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Well, she's perfectly fine basekit so... It's not like it matters.
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So because survivors can tell if the Spirit is phasing and a rough idea where she is she's trash now? Had no idea Spirit's power was so fragile.
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What stats? The one's they posted years ago that the devs said to take with a grain of salt?
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Yes, you are correct. The killer's power is so fragile, and an overly frank modification can destroy the killer's ability.
When they designed The Spirit to require a psychological game, it was a fragile balance. Now, all the actions of The Spirit will be known to the survivors, and we have all discovered, what the official call "Attentive survivors can findr" Are designed to be clearly visible.
After the current The spirit is activated, it is only an ability that can accelerate for 5 seconds, and has a 15-second cooldown. Don't forget, The spirit cannot see the survivors lurking in front of it, and its movement speed is only 4.4.
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No the ones where survs are in favor
Oh darn there aren't any :(
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People have been on them for years about this, and I think this is the most consideration I've seen in a while. I think they needed to do another addon pass to buff stuff, because the deathslinger and spirit nerfs were a bit much. I agree the spirit needed a change, and I'm glad they pushed back the visual cue til later. But, I still think the phasing shouldn't be directional.
The deathslinger changes are hard to say. As a console player, he was great because you could get a survivor in the center of your screen, then quickly fire to catch them. Now, playing deathslinger is going to be a lot harder. The increased terror radius is too much without a speed boost.
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The biggest issue on nurse, is her recharge addons giving her 2 blinks after hitting a survivor after having used 2 blinks. Basically makes it impossible to verse her. Those are the only addons I truly see being nerfed. The rest either stays the same or recieves a buff.
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What is wrong that the game is survivor sided? Just look at this new update coming up they it's totally survivor sided especially with these boon totems coming out and honestly you can't look at this statistics according to them the nurse is the worst killer.
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So you think this game is killer sided? Do you ever play killer?
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So you can 4K 90% of their games no matter what killer they're using? So 9 out of 10 games you get a 4K even if you're playing Pig now that's impressive I would really like to see that.
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Hahaha i dont know what game are this people playing LUL, they must be playing dbd 2 or something. Sadly as stated before in this post, the only killers actually capable of doing consistent games with a real chance to win against good survs are only nurse, spirit and blight, and with this patch we are saying bye bye to spirit, so lets have fun playing 2 killers out of 25 killers! Because yeah of course you can play all the killers, but get ready to flashlight spam and post game toxicity after losing all games. This game is just not worth this last weeks, already got bored of playing exclusively nurse and blight if i want to actually be able to win
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