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STOP MAKING US PLAY 3 VS 1 GAMES!!
I'm fed up of disconnecting and losing pips for this. Yes thats right I disconnect from 3vs1 games. Ban me, see if I give a #########. It's unfair to play when you're a man short and the game tries to force you into it by punishing you if you leave.
Where is the balance? Whats fair about this?
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I like 3v1 games.
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@The_Crusader said:
Seriously it's [BAD WORD] lame. Either give us points/pip or just cancel the match.I'm fed up of disconnecting and losing pips for this. Yes thats right I disconnect from 3vs1 games. Ban me, see if I give a #########. It's unfair to play when you're a man short and the game tries to force you into it by punishing you if you leave.
Where is the balance? Whats fair about this?
I agree with you, the match should be canceled and all the remaining participants should return to the lobby they were.
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In 3vs1 I had one of my most enjoyable games
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Unnamed_Freak said:
@The_Crusader said:
Seriously it's [BAD WORD] lame. Either give us points/pip or just cancel the match.I'm fed up of disconnecting and losing pips for this. Yes thats right I disconnect from 3vs1 games. Ban me, see if I give a #########. It's unfair to play when you're a man short and the game tries to force you into it by punishing you if you leave.
Where is the balance? Whats fair about this?
I agree with you, the match should be canceled and all the remaining participants should return to the lobby they were.
I find that when a killer burns a mori somebody drops out. So it's 3 vs 1 or even 2 vs 1 with an ebony mori. It's nowhere near fair yet the devs don't seem to give a #########?0 -
I agree.
Survivors have been really bad recently, where every other game for me has at least one DC. I usually try for some BP but I'm not going to try very hard to win since the DCs always happen when the match starts so we don't even get the one Gen lead.
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even as killer main i loathe 3-1's... it's both not fair for my prey as well i gain less BP out of this match (650BP not covers the additional hooking BPs not mentioning the BaC stack u're loosing that way).../ there should be a vote option to restart the match from lobby in the first few min after match started if there's a dc happening or a bonus BP gain for all other participants
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I love these as a killer. Time management is so lax, I actually can just focus on mind games and fun. Everybody gets bp and I will let gates become accessible before actually trying to kill anyone. Losing a person to dc or rage quits doesn't have to spoil it for everyone.0
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DemonDaddy said:I love these as a killer. Time management is so lax, I actually can just focus on mind games and fun. Everybody gets bp and I will let gates become accessible before actually trying to kill anyone. Losing a person to dc or rage quits doesn't have to spoil it for everyone.1
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yeah, these are BS.
however, its a bug that causes one survivor to crash / loose connection to the killer, who is the lobby host.i think it'll solve itself with dedicated servers.
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I wish we kept our add-ons and offerings if anything other than a 4v1 match started. I hate using a pudding, cake, or BPS only to load into a match that’s missing at least one Survivor.
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@Mister_xD said:
yeah, these are BS.
however, its a bug that causes one survivor to crash / loose connection to the killer, who is the lobby host.i think it'll solve itself with dedicated servers.
It should help them find out the source of the problem, but a switch to dedicated servers isn't a solution in and of itself.
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in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"
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@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
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Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.4 -
@The_Crusader said:
You mean one of the biggest killer mains with a persecution complex on the forum defends 3 vs 1 games?Well imagine my shock.
You're going to accuse someone else of having a persecution complex? Pot calling the kettle black much?
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Orion said:
@The_Crusader said:
You mean one of the biggest killer mains with a persecution complex on the forum defends 3 vs 1 games?Well imagine my shock.
You're going to accuse someone else of having a persecution complex? Pot calling the kettle black much?
And yeah its well known you lot tried to gang up and belittle anyone who didn't play into your narrative.0 -
@The_Crusader said:
Why do you always get personal?And yeah its well known you lot tried to gang up and belittle anyone who didn't play into your narrative.
And now I'm the one getting personal, after you accused @Tsulan of having a persecution complex? Really?
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Orion said:
@The_Crusader said:
Why do you always get personal?And yeah its well known you lot tried to gang up and belittle anyone who didn't play into your narrative.
And now I'm the one getting personal, after you accused @Tsulan of having a persecution complex? Really?
You and Tsulan really fit the definition of "killer main" from things you post. Every single one of your arguments are massively killer sided, so not I'm not shocked to hear the defence of 3 vs 1 games which are a walk in the park for killer.1 -
@The_Crusader said:
See you're out to cause an arguement again.You and Tsulan really fit the definition of "killer main" from things you post. Every single one of your arguments are massively killer sided, so not I'm not shocked to hear the defence of 3 vs 1 games which are a walk in the park for killer.
Dude, I was agreeing with @LordziPL and pointed out that he wasn't the only one who felt that way. You're the one who immediately started insulting people.
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Orion said:
@The_Crusader said:
See you're out to cause an arguement again.You and Tsulan really fit the definition of "killer main" from things you post. Every single one of your arguments are massively killer sided, so not I'm not shocked to hear the defence of 3 vs 1 games which are a walk in the park for killer.
Dude, I was agreeing with @LordziPL and pointed out that he wasn't the only one who felt that way. You're the one who immediately started insulting people.
If that is what he believs then that is fine and he is entitled to that opinion.
I was just pointing out that when it comes to certain other people you have to take their opinion on such matters with a grain of salt.
That isn't an effort to attack or insult anyway, it's just realizing that some people aren't the most impartial of players.0 -
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Prove its fair im waiting. Tired of people acting tough with zero evidence on their side.
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The_Crusader said:Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.3 -
Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.0 -
It probably wouldn't be so bad if most killers didn't go ham on these matches, and chilled a bit.
I usually just play at making it dangerous, but not really.
I chase. Might hit. May even go as far as to hook, but I might potato it up, or give it away when I won't sacrifice someone towards the end. Usually there's that someone that gets found a little too easily making me tip my hand a bit earlier.
In other words, i want to let them go, and make it interesting at the same time.2 -
The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.
There was nothing said about Moris. So I guess you'd prefer to disconnect in that situation instead of playing the harder game.
Some of the most memorable matches i had as survivor, have been where someone disconnected.
There is no better feeling than escaping when all odds are against you.
Dark Souls has quite some fans, because it's unforgiving and hard. But maybe you prefer other games.1 -
Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.
There was nothing said about Moris. So I guess you'd prefer to disconnect in that situation instead of playing the harder game.
Some of the most memorable matches i had as survivor, have been where someone disconnected.
There is no better feeling than escaping when all odds are against you.
Dark Souls has quite some fans, because it's unforgiving and hard. But maybe you prefer other games.
Dark souls is a fair and balanced game.
DBD is balanced around 4 survivors....or is this the part where you disagree?
Its even worse when the killer resorts to camping/tunneling because they know the remaining 2 wont be able to rush gens.1 -
I agree that loading into 3 vs. 1 matches isn't exactly pleasant. It also happens too often for my liking, especially after this most recent patch. However, I do believe that the developers are looking into it by trying to gather logs from people who are experiencing the infinite loading screen glitch which is a primary cause for these types of matches being so prevalent.
One thing I respectfully disagree with is your choice to disconnect when you load into a 3 vs. 1 match. When you disconnect, you essentially destroy any possibility the other survivors have of escape or at least getting a safety pip, and you assure the killer an easy victory. Just keeping the killer distracted for a little bit by getting into a chase and choosing to die on the hook is better for your team and will not give you the double depip and chance of ban that disconnecting will. Although it is indeed harder to accomplish, I've been in several 3 vs. 1 matches that all of the survivors were able to escape, and it is entirely possible if a team is proficient enough at doing generators and keeping the killer busy.
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The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.
There was nothing said about Moris. So I guess you'd prefer to disconnect in that situation instead of playing the harder game.
Some of the most memorable matches i had as survivor, have been where someone disconnected.
There is no better feeling than escaping when all odds are against you.
Dark Souls has quite some fans, because it's unforgiving and hard. But maybe you prefer other games.
Dark souls is a fair and balanced game.
DBD is balanced around 4 survivors....or is this the part where you disagree?
Its even worse when the killer resorts to camping/tunneling because they know the remaining 2 wont be able to rush gens.
The additional layer on the matter is whether its fair or not. Because its PvP, unlike Dark Souls, there are a lot more factors to consider, such as add-ons/offerings, player skill and RNG. If Survivors are better than the Killer, you could say its fairer for the Killer, but if everyone is suckish, then it becomes less fair.2 -
@The_Crusader said:
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There are a lot of times I agree with things you say, but this thread, like some of your other previous threads, shows an unflinching stubbornness in which you believe everyone who disagrees with you is either attacking you and/or is a killer main, and thus is biased so their point doesn't matter. You have been more reasonable and insightful recently but you are once again showing that when it comes to your own thoughts and ideas you get confrontational and uncooperative at the first sign of something that you construe as wrong, or an idea that you oppose.
People who disagree with you are not putting you down, they are not after you, please stop this paranoia. It's tiring for everyone.
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TheOwl said:
I agree that loading into 3 vs. 1 matches isn't exactly pleasant. It also happens too often for my liking, especially after this most recent patch. However, I do believe that the developers are looking into it by trying to gather logs from people who are experiencing the infinite loading screen glitch which is a primary cause for these types of matches being so prevalent.
One thing I respectfully disagree with is your choice to disconnect when you load into a 3 vs. 1 match. When you disconnect, you essentially destroy any possibility the other survivors have of escape or at least getting a safety pip, and you assure the killer an easy victory. Just keeping the killer distracted for a little bit by getting into a chase and choosing to die on the hook is better for your team and will not give you the double depip and chance of ban that disconnecting will. Although it is indeed harder to accomplish, I've been in several 3 vs. 1 matches that all of the survivors were able to escape, and it is entirely possible if a team is proficient enough at doing generators and keeping the killer busy.
I play if I get one, and it sucks because it feels like I'm forced to do it. The devs basically say "play this or D/C and lose 2 pips". Thats what bugs me, that you either have to play an unfair game or get punished for it.
I d/c when I keep getting them. Which seems common at the moment given all the loading screen crashes people are getting.
Plus what normally happens is someone else goes down then they d/c anyway because they feel hard done by, so then its 2 on 1 and you havr to d/c anyway.
Basically it just gets stupid. If they just gave survivors bonus points like what killers get it wouldn't be as bad. Give survivors an incentive to play rather than just knocking off 1 gen
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The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.
There was nothing said about Moris. So I guess you'd prefer to disconnect in that situation instead of playing the harder game.
Some of the most memorable matches i had as survivor, have been where someone disconnected.
There is no better feeling than escaping when all odds are against you.
Dark Souls has quite some fans, because it's unforgiving and hard. But maybe you prefer other games.
Dark souls is a fair and balanced game.
DBD is balanced around 4 survivors....or is this the part where you disagree?
Its even worse when the killer resorts to camping/tunneling because they know the remaining 2 wont be able to rush gens.
LoL what?!
Thx to the collision box differences between survivors and killers a chase can take longer than 80 seconds. Which is the time a survivor requires to complete a gen without hitting perfect skill checks or using perks/toolbox.
Just look at the latest hybrid panda videos. Where he gets one gen rush after another.
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I don't like 3v1 even as a killer, creates an unfair situation and most importantly, i'll get less bps.
If it's 2v1 or less i'll just farm.
Except one day where i had like 8 2v1 matches in a row and said: "screw it, i'm just gonna kill them."0 -
Vietfox said:I don't like 3v1 even as a killer, creates an unfair situation and most importantly, i'll get less bps.
If it's 2v1 or less i'll just farm.
Except one day where i had like 8 2v1 matches in a row and said: "screw it, i'm just gonna kill them."
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I always like to take on the 3v1s as a Survivor because of the extra challenge. When you beat them, you feel like you and whoever got stuck in that match with you were good and outplayed the Killer.
Sometimes they suck, but that's when I do chest searches and totem breaking and play kinda differently. They can be fun.
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@Brady said:
I always like to take on the 3v1s as a Survivor because of the extra challenge. When you beat them, you feel like you and whoever got stuck in that match with you were good and outplayed the Killer.Sometimes they suck, but that's when I do chest searches and totem breaking and play kinda differently. They can be fun.
But in reality killer just lost a challenge when one dced early so he play the way so you could have a chance to beat him i mean always do so
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Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Tsulan said:The_Crusader said:Orion said:
@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.
There was nothing said about Moris. So I guess you'd prefer to disconnect in that situation instead of playing the harder game.
Some of the most memorable matches i had as survivor, have been where someone disconnected.
There is no better feeling than escaping when all odds are against you.
Dark Souls has quite some fans, because it's unforgiving and hard. But maybe you prefer other games.
I had a challenging match against an infinite tier three Myers. I was able to get the slug up, but pretty sure we both died in the end. People let him feed to early on and didn't notice. DC matches tend to just be meh. Uneventful. I never assume I'll get out, especially when solo, but that's even more true with DCs. If I get out, my team was competent or the killer was nice. If I don't, hopefully i got enough points.0 -
The_Crusader said:TheOwl said:
I agree that loading into 3 vs. 1 matches isn't exactly pleasant. It also happens too often for my liking, especially after this most recent patch. However, I do believe that the developers are looking into it by trying to gather logs from people who are experiencing the infinite loading screen glitch which is a primary cause for these types of matches being so prevalent.
One thing I respectfully disagree with is your choice to disconnect when you load into a 3 vs. 1 match. When you disconnect, you essentially destroy any possibility the other survivors have of escape or at least getting a safety pip, and you assure the killer an easy victory. Just keeping the killer distracted for a little bit by getting into a chase and choosing to die on the hook is better for your team and will not give you the double depip and chance of ban that disconnecting will. Although it is indeed harder to accomplish, I've been in several 3 vs. 1 matches that all of the survivors were able to escape, and it is entirely possible if a team is proficient enough at doing generators and keeping the killer busy.
I play if I get one, and it sucks because it feels like I'm forced to do it. The devs basically say "play this or D/C and lose 2 pips". Thats what bugs me, that you either have to play an unfair game or get punished for it.
I d/c when I keep getting them. Which seems common at the moment given all the loading screen crashes people are getting.
Plus what normally happens is someone else goes down then they d/c anyway because they feel hard done by, so then its 2 on 1 and you havr to d/c anyway.
Basically it just gets stupid. If they just gave survivors bonus points like what killers get it wouldn't be as bad. Give survivors an incentive to play rather than just knocking off 1 gen0 -
If the player dc'es soon enough so even the number of gens is reduced, I don't mind. But if we are 3 for 5 gens, I'd rather cancel.
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I don't think it's that bad, yes i get annoyed when people DC before or during the game. But...let's get some points? is so bad to then when you are a person down just try your best? or perhaps work along with the killer so everyone gets some points? maybe try make a solution out of a problem instead of whining about the game...people don't like -nice- killers i understand....i have been on my own with 5 gens before! everyone DC'd...me and the killer went about getting as many points as we could, then i let them sacrifice me at the end...i didn't de pip, got points....so did they, but people who dc least should get a punishment
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