Deathslinger is garbage.
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"They're the most powerful side of this game by a mile."
I don't think you can use it for everyone.
Low MMR - Killer sided
Medium MMR - game is actually quite balanced for most killers here
High MMR - survivor sided
Even High MMR is not that survivor sided, if you use 1 of 5 best killers.
Even with best killers, it is survivor sided, but only like tournament level, which I really wouldn't count to be honest. Tournament players, don't play against random killers, because it is boring. When they do on stream, they don't really try to destroy the killer, which is nice too see, so everyone can have fun.
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F your right it can't be changed. I thought there was but I was wrong. However unless these things below have changed and do far no mention of a bug I still think its him that sucks either way if he can't use it then try something else the best way for the devs to notice something is wrong is not to use it. Sorry it took me so long to respond I'm currently looking into the ads and pov but the first guy never mentioned these things he just kept saying it sucked
Aim Down Sights (ADS):
- Activate/Deactivate ADS: 0.4/0.6 seconds
- ADS Zoom 125 %.
- ADS Camera Yaw speed (horizontal): 40 % (50 % with Gamepad)
- ADS Camera Pitch speed (vertical): 80 % (90 % with Gamepad)
- ADS Movement speed: 3.74 m/s or 93.5 % (x0.85).
- When Deathslinger is aiming at a Survivor within the maximum range of The Redeemer, that Survivor will hear a constant ringing sound that gets progressively louder the closer to the centre of Deathslinger's sights they are, warning them of an impending shot
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I'm not necessarily sure that's not what was intended I believe that alot of those playing Deathslinger were not using the perks that would benefit him so they changed him so that you would have to. I think that the devs hate useless perks and will ultimately remove them if they are not forced to be used. So my notion is that they are basically forcing you to use those things to help in other aspects to make up for the pov and ADS tho it still could be an unknown bug or possibly a setting messed up on some people computer or console. But to flat out say Deathslinger sucks when I have whiteness so many not sucking seems kinda like he is the one sucking.
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I play as the pig and for the first time in years played as the Trapper. Got 4k with my pig 3 out of 5 matches and a 3k with my 1 match of Trapper. So you tell me dude lol
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Well, can't talk about him, maybe he does suck.
My point is that Deathslinger doesn't really suck as a killer, he is still better than some weaker killers like Clown, Legion, Myers, Freddie etc., but he sucks to play as, even Freddie is more fun to play now and that used to be most boring killer to me.
Build that is good for him:
STBFL can help a lot, so you have faster time to down
Pop / corrupt to slowdown the game, because he has bad 1v4
Some info perk, so BBQ is good enough
As last perk I would use something to get undetectable, or oblivious. Best I have found was Hysteria, Plaything and Tinkerer.
But even with those perks, he gets better in terms of power-level, but playing as him will still suck, because how it feels.
Hysteria + Nurse's calling could be quite good imo...
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That doesn't mean they are good...
I am Legion main and get 4k in most of my games, but when I face dead squad I know I am going to lose, because they know Legion's weaknesses and play around them.
Just because you can get 4k, doesn't mean that killer is good, it just means that you are better as player than those survivors you played against.
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That's not a buff that's how she came! I can see them newfangled her. But I can honestly see it getting better as people get tired of playing her. I never included in my list all the things that were there letcme show you what survivors got like everything not (suggesting that a survivor in itself is a buff means that survivor must of hurt you)
Survivor Perks
The following perks have become General Perks, and their names have changed:
- Babysitter is now Guardian
- Camaraderie is now Kinship
- Second Wind is now Renewal
- Better Together is now Situational Awareness
- Fixated is now Self-Aware
- Inner Strength is now Inner Healing
That is all they had down for survivors. I wouldn't say survivors are more powerful at all! I main pig and I can say killers are by far more powerful but most killers don't know how to use there skills or are just looking for an easy 4k sorry not sorry if you are one of those killers
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I can agree to this and I enjoy seeing someone who knows something about killers.
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It's funny watching clear survivor mains who have clearly never play Deathslinger try to argue that Deathslinger isn't actually nerfed, but he was buffed.
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I didn't mind playing against him, because I had so many hours on him, so I was really good at predicting, when he will shoot and could dodge it. I just dodged when I would shoot :D
Again my issue is not power-level really, I just hate how it feels to play him now and I don't have any reason to play him now instead of just Huntress, or Trickster.
Deathslinger was fun, because of quick-scope, he was never really good as a killer. 1v1 was only good thing about him, he still has better 1v1 than most killers. So I don't think he is worst killer by any means, he isn't even top 5 of worst killers, but I just hate how it feels to play him. It's not fun imo, Huntress is way better as a killer and more fun, I think Trickster is around same power-level as Deathslinger now, but he is also more fun for me, because I don't have to deal with that ######### ADS.
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Want to use your power? Cooldown
Want to not use your power anymore? Cooldown
Missed shot? Cooldown and reload (another cooldown)
Just fun stuff you know.
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Personally the Clown and spirit are my hardest to play against I suck so bad when I go against them. But I'm not really a survivor I'm more a killer and I love playing pig manly cuz she is not scary and sometimes I get funny survivors. And as a killer I hardcore suck as a Huntress I'm ok with Deathslinger but not as good as the pig lol
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I play Pig mainly for Boop the Snoot. It sucks that I can't kill those survivors after it... rules are rules
She has such any easy counter-play, buff for the Pig!
I had one game where everyone I sneak up on, just boop the snoot. Yeah, 4 escapes that game...
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You forgot:
Want to stay in your power? Lower sensitivity and FOV
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When Deathslinger is so trash he gets compared to pebble.
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Thats because you play at low mmr against potato survivors. If survivors are losing to pig. They are just bad
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Oni is an iffy one. If they deny you a hit for a good while. chances are, you might not be able to make a good comeback per say... Despite him being up there
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Then yer at low Mmr to compensate.. Wait till you start climbin' higher, Trapper and piggy will become useless by the time you get them all kitted out,
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His nerf was worse than Sprits and they need to roll it back some
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Yeah, you need Tinkerer to get you power more reliably and Infectious Fright so you have better to chance for snowball. Then you just need slow-down perks.
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Yeah I think slinger's nerf was overkill. And I just tried started playing as him before this patch. I probably still will to try and learn my shots and stuff.
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I wonder how long will you last.
My limit was 5 games after and over 200 hours before nerf...
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I'll play probably one game then that'll be it for a while lol. idk man
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idk why people like you only see if smth is a buff or nerf, but never check how big of a buff/nerf the change is...
irrelevant
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"Balance" dev btw.
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I can only agree with you that this is the worst nerf in DBD.
In other words, I think it's the worst nerf of all the nerfs, like how Hillbilly's chainsaw now has a constant speed limiter.
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It was not necessary to write about the changes of the rest of the killers, we talked about Deathslinger.
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i think even with tinkerer.. it'll be rough to say the least if it's a pure 4 man deathsquad..
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Of course it will be hard, but it's just impossible for most killers. It is possible with Oni, but still hard.
Let's be honest, it's not easy with any killer...
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Pfh... they're the same players that cry wolf about Nurse / spirit / blight being "Too Op"
...if only survivor mains played killer for a month straight at high mmr.. to know what it feels like to be screwed over..
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You are naive, they would have to get to high MMR first :D
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Now you have to actually aim, my bad, life is so hard.
DeathSlinger requires skill now, practice or don't play him.
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Pfh. which is already "Ez" by their standards...=P
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Get good scrub
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Riddle me this.
What kind of skill can I acquire to counter the fact that the Survivors hear my Terror Radius 8m sooner? If the Survivors know what's up they can run early and make me follow after them and gain distance at a ridiculously slow rate of 0.4 m/s. That extra 8m of distance will lengthen the chase by 20 seconds at that rate of catching up.
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Well, playing against Deathslinger doesn't require skill anymore, maybe survivors should practive instead of crying.
I can agree with bigger TR and fake ADS nerf, but quick-scope nerf is what killed him for me.
He is just not interesting nor fun to play without it. That's not hard to understand imo. I don't think he ever was an easy killer, but quite a lot of players were good with him, because of FPS games, which is not a thing anymore.
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Right its irrelevant because "you" say so. I would roll my eyes but it doesn't matter you can think what you want but I guess me and the devs as well as so many others are wrong. Keep telling yourself that it will make you right
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It was a copy paste so... my bad?
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You don't think he is right? That how big change it is matters a lot?
Alright, let's add 3 gens to do, but survivors do them 5 seconds faster... There is buff and nerf, so balanced, right?
And yeah, devs can be wrong, nothing new. They completely failed to see main issue with Deathslinger and over-nerfed him hard.
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He isn't right about Deathslinger being bad when he refuses to do anything new. I will admit that some of his pov is crappy at times but not enough to justify saying it's crappy and that only got nerfed! He also said that survivors got a bunch of buffs but then deleted it when I proved him wrong. No devs are often wrong but it still doesn't mean Deathslinger is bad. It means it can use improvements but lots of other players still do well with him. You are not wrong
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Sorry, I can't find that comment how you proved him wrong. Those new perk buffs are super nice and I love using those perks tho.
Deathslinger is not useless, he has still one of the best 1v1 in the game, problem is that he is just boring and worse than other ranged killers.
I would be fine with bigger TR, I would be fine with ADS fake nerf, but I am not fine with quick-scope nerf. That was only thing he was better than other ranged killers and made him unique and it was main reason why FPS players played him.
He is not dead because he is worst killer now, because it's not true, he is nowhere near close to that. He is dead because he is boring af now. You are forced to use zoning way more than before, because survivors can react to your ADS easily now and I just hate that.
I would actually still play him without that quick-scope nerf even tho he would get worse as a killer. So I switched to Trickster as my main ranged type killer, he is actually quite fun and decent after his buffs...
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I deleted the comment reacting to it because he deleted his. I agree with this I don't think he is bad I don't think he got nerfed. He for sure needs a rework because he has some obvious problems. But I can agree to your assessment. I think the guy who made this post was whining and saying it was bad because he couldn't breeze through things well and also the new survivor is broken. He kept saying he didn't want to use different perks or add ons (not saying they fix the issues but maybe they can help) he just kept insisting that they always nerf Deathslinger and buff survivors. I don't think Deathslinger is an easy killer but he for sure isn't unplayable crap. Thank you
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Deathslinger got the Hillbilly treatment, big oof
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i said its irrelevant because you only look at like 10% of the actual 'picture'
and just because devs do smth, that does not mean they are right, in fact they have proven many times, including this one, that they have no clue what the ######### are they doing
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survivors have perks, which a lot got buffed with only a few killer perks being buffed. survivors don't even need a buff AS IS!.
Also the only nerf slinger got was his chain escape animation, aim in and aim out. also terror radius, everything else was a buff. and to be honest, they buffed weak killers, and they nerfed wraith spirit and deathslinger. buffed plague and trapper, this was needed survivor buffs were not needed, plus, built to last is now disgustingly op, vigil is good, babysitter and BT is good if u don't want your team to get tunnelled. and many other things. please think before you speak
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I can agree that devs don't really have an idea what they are doing. It kinda feels like they are just doing random things to see what sticks.
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They didn't buff any of the survivors this time so I don't know why you think that you can plainly see it in the patch notes. As far as I can tell they exchanged Deathslingers ads system for something else some people are finding it hard to use him. I can't say he got a huge buff but a few of his things got a slight buff. I can say he needs a work over I played him the other night he seems janky like his aim is a bit off. I don't play him alot so I would suck even if he was in great working order. However the patch notes clearly show that no survivor has gotten a buff at least not in this recent patch. And Trapper needed a buff horribly he is the main reason this game has been considered so unbalanced. Honestly Spirit and Wraith needed a nerf. But I don't think Deathslinger needed a nerf. They are currently balancing things out and they might change them again later to hopefully make things a but more fair. Right now things seem to be a bit chaotic.
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yeah deathslinger was killed. anyone who disagress is just a potato surv in disguise.
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It's the same sh*t for every non-mobility killer, even 115%. 0.6m/s is also super slow to catch up with a W-gamer.
Huntress has the same problem than him, but the lullaby is even bigger than his TR, and she has to wait the full charge to hit a fast hatchet. But in proper hands she's strong, now it is the same for the DeathSlinger.
I see you have a certain amount of comments/posts here so you're certainly not a beginner but sometimes we forget the basics : come from somewhere the survivor won't be able to flee you in a way you can't cut his trajectory. With 110% you have to outposition sooner more than the other killers the survivors.
The quick scope thing was why he was so unfair and so unfun to play against. There is no practice in earth that makes you realistically able to react to a 0.3s move.
Plus the fact that as a survivor you had to move in a stupid trajectory so you hope to avoid a sudden quick scope, but by doing so, the DeathSlinger outposition quickly and for free, just because he CAN quick scope.
Quick scoping doesn't require to aim well. That's my opinion. It's just the easy way to have shots.
Now he's hard, but fair. People who actually know how to outposition, how to move, and how to aim will perform with him.
Saying he's garbage because you don't use him well is the same as saying Nurse is trash because you have to put 15 hours in her to more or less master her. People have to play him in another way than before.
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I can't believe deathslinger has dethroned ptb trickster as the worst ranged killer in the game.
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