Can you still defend Circle of Healing after watching this?

I just don’t want the devs do do another MOM situation tbh. The survivor meta is stale as hell and COH could be an interesting new perk to use

Killer meta isnt much better, but you have to see how much these boons are hurting some killers in this game and if this was a killer perk it would be instantly nerfed.

Fair enough. I wasn’t around for the days of old MOM, but from what I’ve heard about it, it sure sounded like an interesting time.

There are many perks allow you to heal with over 100% speed. Botany for +33, Desperate measures 56% ect... So of course there is no cap. But I believe the speed cap of everything should be limited to 200% (as no matter 1 or 2 survivors healing another in Coh will be 200%).

Though Coh should be nerfed down to allowing Self healing at 100% speed. Not requiring a teammate to heal you already giving massive advantage, this is why Self-care still considered a good perk in some cases.

I think sales is also one if the reasons it took them 4 years to balance DS. I hope coh doesnt take that long -.-

Numerical changes to size are quit okay. I would argue that this is a problem depending on the map and especialy on maps with more than one level (the game or Midwitch come to mind).

Totem placement is a constant issue for both sides. We all know those totems that are basicly a sign that Gondor is calling for help and we also know the notorious totem that chills under some stairs in the saloon. A quick solution could be that Killers can snuff totems with an attack. However totem spawns should get looked into either way.

Healing speed is only an issue on self-healing. Healing another survivor can remain uncapped for all I care because 2 survivors healing is still twice the time not on a generator. Self-healing is always a problem because it requires no coordination which is a main downside to healing. Most Killers also benefit if they interrupt two healing survivors because they now can get two people injured while also triggering other effects (buff Deathbound pls).

A shift in the meta would be good in my opinion. I hate seeing everybody just running Dead Hard.

Ehm this was a terrible video to make his point.

He showed a couple of times he was able to heal in front of a killer... without making any distance and just instantly getting hit again. What did that accomplish?

Half his build and item slot to be in pretty much the same situation he would have been if he just ran away from the pallet in the first place. Not to mention that he straight up would have gone down at one point if the PH had slightly better aim.

Also love his tangent about how you can just rebless the totem while a quick glance at the gamestate shows 2 survivors on deadhook the others on second stage and still 2 gens up.

Almost as if survivors weren't focussing all their attention to gens

That game was 1 hook away from becoming a 3v1 and 2 hooks from becoming a 2v1 and completly swinging in the killers favour. While he was there playing with totems. I would love to face such players as killer

He had one point and that was that DS indeed should deactivate while blessing a totem

There also should be a healing speed cap at this point. He showed it off pretty bad but it can be pretty rediculous at this point

On a whole this video didn't really prove anything. Other then that people are hyperfocussing on the positives of CoH and completly ignoring the negatives

Boons aren't the problem, it is the base game mechanics

Ok so survivors want to keep CoH...lets nerf medkits and other healing stuff!

I'd agree with that, but i'd still want something else. Like cooldown to CoH or totems are broken after being used few times.

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I don't really see the need for that if they make it so perks and medkits can no longer stack with it. You still need to set up boon perks (which takes a bit), be near them in order to heal and the killer can snuff them in like a second. I believe these perks will be 100% fine if they don't stack.

This would make them way too useless. No thanks.

Buff self care and botany, and disable medkits for good. Sure that would be a nerf to Franklins but hey it's something.

Are you trying to say old MOM was more fair than COH?

And if they take both boon totem perks then every survivor gets infinite Self-care + Botany + Distortion + Lucky Break with zero prerequisites and for 3 of the survivors zero investment in time or perk slots. So lets add effectively 14 perks to the survivor's team (3x4 + 2 for the one taking the boon totems) and that's balanced? Only one survivor needs to be off gens for 16/24 seconds to set up this safe zone but all the others can get the benefits for no cost whatsoever.

Balanced.

Yes Jolt

Cap the healing speed and give it 3 charges

Why the 3 charges... Well to give the Survivor whom uses it 3 chances to get use out of the perk (Blessing takes a charge... but I shouldn't have to say that) and no way of getting them back

Circle of healing encourages Tunneling for sure, if they have a boon Totem up (or even 2) they can heal as soon as you leave them. When they are just SOMEHWAT coordinated you need to tunnel one person after the other, or they heal so quick you basically just waste time.

If they are somewhat decent in looping they can waste so much time, and Hex totems (if you don't have all perks unlocked I don't need a "just take __ and it counters it") are useless when they are on the Silent Hill school for example, you literally can't look for a boon totem AND control the generators AND hunt the survivors, these maps like "the game" or the police department are just too big to keep control on everything.

That this perk is Infinite is insane, as I want to be nice and don't tunnel (yeah, yeah it's a mechanic, yada,yada) it sucks if they want to use it, as I love it myself when I play survivor. If you are able to bring two on a somewhat larger map, as killer you can't do sheet, as soon as you found one you either loose the survivor, or you can delete the perk for the next 16 seconds.

I had games when I had ruin and Jolt, they found the hex totem in 20 seconds and it was a perk that now was useless. Yeah I know "50/50" but that is such a bullshit argument when it isn't a problem for survivors to look for totems that burn. This Perk is so annoying, even as survivor. And stuff like "haunted grounds" don't help at all when they are necessary to even compete against decent teams. And I don't even talk super high MMR or full SWF, I talk about games where you find someone immediately and after 1 minute, 2 gens pop, your hex is gone and you stand there like "how the ######### did that happen" and one perk is literally not even possible to be used.

to be forced to play "meta" just to be able to even play (finding a lobby 10 minutes, the game itself 5 minutes) and then needing to play meta killers that you don't even want to play just to have a chance is bullshit.

The Problem is that everything is designed around the meta, the meta itself isn't touched though, why is it necessary to only play with the same 6-8 perks just because otherwise you only can win when they are bad.

Make it a 1-time use perk and the totem only stands for max. 3 minutes. To have a small save-space is fine and all, but to have a save-space over 3 floors with free med-kit for everyone and infinite uses is just too broken for such a game, as it is just not broken on games where the survivor are bad.