Make the Hatch spawn in again when the Generators are almost done.

having survs escape before their main objective of doing gens is done is annoying. i do see hatch as a fail safe for a scenario where the gens could not be done, but how do you implement that without allowing groups of survs to escape at once?

the egc also started upon shutting the hatch when a key was used and the hatch stayed open for 10 or 30 seconds dependent of key (i do believe). a survivor leaving early could've been a bad thing for surv and killer alike.

there are suggestions of the hatch spawning when all 5 gens are done, this gives more possibilities to the killer to counter the key before it comes into play. it might limit the number of survivors alive at the end. other than it is pretty similar.

i dont have any ideas to the hatch, but im sure someone somewhere might have a better solution.

why?

if you want to escape through hatch so badly maybe bring Left Behind lol

i would've gone with that as well, but looking back at it, would it insta start the egc?

because if it could it could leave either side in a bad state. possibly ruining a good escape game or a good kill game.

and that would suck

It doesn’t surprise me that survivor mains want hatch reverted back to it’s old broken state. Y’all actually gotta escape the way you’re supposed to now.

No we don’t need to go back to giving survivors a free get out of jail card after they 3 genned themselves.

Multiple survivors escaping before all the gens are done is infuriating I agree.

But once all gens are done, you don't need to patrol gens anymore. You only have the hatch and the exits to worry about, three locations, just like the last three gens. You can defend the hatch in that situation.

If you can't, then yeah, four survivors getting out is earned.

I'm not suggesting they revert all the changes. Having an unlocking animation that takes time is brilliant, and if anything makes defending the hatch even easier. They can't just all run past you and slide down the hole in an instant. It makes that hatch just one more exit, that takes time to open. THAT is what would make the hatch and keys fair and in line with Mori's.

In that scenario, the hatch is just another exit. Would take just as long to open, requires a survivor to bring a key. Still requires survivors to complete their objective by doing all the gens.

Meanwhile Mori's remove a hook state, after you've earned it by clearing the first two hook states.

One more exit, one less hook state, after completing prior objectives. They're finally equal.

The current situation is beyond pointless. If the killer finds and closes the hatch, then they're not just going to let you open it with the key that they saw you bring in, and as the one sole survivor remaining you have no option to do anything else.

If you complain about getting 3 genned then the issue isn't on the killer's side, but your own. You and your teammates decided to do all the gens on the same side of the map while lacking any thought of macroplay/late game map manipulation. If you were better at the game you wouldn't have to EVER worry about a 3 gen because you and your team played smart instead of trying to rush through all 5 gens. Or maybe you should just bring a boon like every other swf and stop caring about the 3 gen. Then you just force killer into a lose lose situation where he either is forced to commit to a chase and lose the 3 gen, or stay in the 3 gen and let your team constantly reset every 8 seconds or so. You have options to play around it

If you think that keys and the hatch need to go back to their previously unhealthy state then you're mistaken. Under no circumstance should any amount of additional objective time be nullified by in game mechanics, survivor perks/toolbox addons, etc because it leads to an unhealthy environment. Prove thyself is already an obnoxious perk that in itself can potentially save 30 seconds worth of gen progress while active and while coupled with toolboxes and brand new parts, quickly can add up to the equivalent to an entire gen worth of progress. Getting a 3 man out despite your teammates screwing you and popping 4 gens on the same side of the map and causing a 3 gen should not be rewarded with a hatch escape, period. So in other words, yes it is a get out of jail free card. A delusional player would say otherwise. Keys and the hatch in their previous state were not healthy for the game in any meaning of the word and led to matches that had no business being anything less than a 3k ending prematurely. I'm sorry but a survivor main who only plays survivor is the only person who could ever suggest such a silly idea because anyone who only plays a single role has 0 grasp over the concept of game balance.