K so huntresses is some wanna be twins now cause this atrocious build
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I do just like how you want trickster to be gutted and deleted when he is not even that powerful.
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Before you say get good iron maiden is a legion perk not a huntress perk, get your facts right.
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Iron maiden is lvl 40 legion perk again get your facts right or fix your corrupted files on your game lol
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Sounds like the OP is a survivor that was booooosted by his swf
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apparently your a trash huntress that needs iron maiden, real good huntress dont need bbq corrupt + corrupt, so its really bad huntress that use hold my hand build dont even act as if you dont whine on easy to counter boon/dead hard like the rest of you so before yall start negative stuff majority of you are the same ones about dh/boons broken and its so easy to punish dead hard
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whos talking about swf? any complaints i make its randum queues anything is annoying with random , i dont give a rats ass once its swf we can beat anything no sweat. any thing even if its not so call broken is an issue in randoms period
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You mentioned your 3 man earlier to someone else if your not just some bored guy with nothing better to do than make bait posts your a survivor who's been boosted ALOT
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CoconutRTS -- one of the best Huntress players in the world -- runs Iron Maiden (and BBQ) on his Huntress builds. If you think he's trash too for running those perks, then that alone shows how out of touch you are, lol.
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It seems you're just upset you can't use your locker perks if 1 out of every 10 Huntress's run Iron Maiden.
The changes you're suggesting are incredibly bad, there is no need to change them because iron maiden is rarely seen.
Just like how your perks help you counter a killers, the killer has the same. The build you mentioned also isn't bad and has nothing to do with slugging. The build is fairly chill, and slugging is something the player does, not the perks.
You're complaining over nothing.
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I dont care about twitch/youtubers so your point is not valid.
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So what does it matter to you am I speaking to you directly, ever heard see and blind hear and deaf ? If someone is speaking to someone else and not you what business do you have.
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Its a public forum first time here or have baited before?
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Lol. The fact you don't know the definitions of the word "standard" should make every point you've made invalid, but I'll try ignore that. It doesn't make my point any less relevent -- the player I mentioned is well-regarded in the community as one of the best Huntress players out there, and they run those perks. If your weak argument is "Running perks XYZ makes a player trash", and you're given an example of a world-class player that would have you on a hook immediately if you ran into them in a match and you want to dismiss that -- well, that's just more proof that you simply don't know what you're talking about. 🤦♂️
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Nice speech so what exactly is your point again? Ah I get it you dont know a simple sentence am no fan boy so I do not care about youtube or twitch streamers so ty for pointing out about someone I do not care about over a video game.
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Also known as "I don't care about your evidence so I can go on acting like I'm right"
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My point is that you have no idea what you're talking about, but I don't really need to point that out. Your replies in this thread have done a far better job than I could in doing that. 👍
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Evidence? if someone dont care about something evidence or not its useless because the person is not interested thats like being at a grocery store and being a sale rep and annoying a customer to buy something when they clearly walk right past the table and your trying to grab their attention.
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nice job need a cookie or did you just one a million dollars cause all you and some people have is a mouth on a forum bet some of you dont talk half that stuff to someone in real
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Lmao you very clearly didn’t understand that I was joking when I said that and you also didn’t see me give my idea on how we can buff Trickster and make him more fun to face. Smh.
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Yes evidence, you clearly believe anyone who uses Iron Maiden or BBQ is a bad Huntress, as you've said earlier in the thread. Someone brought you proof that one of the best Huntress players in the world, statistically speaking, uses both of those perks making that point invalid. You decided to say you don't care and ignore the evidence meaning you just want to complain and listen to an echo chamber of your own thoughts rather than being met with the cold hard truth that you're wrong.
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Ok enjoy advertising for your fan person dont care.
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There is a trickster post made by nathan13 that is showing all kinds of builds people are experimenting with.
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Since I'm guessing by your actions in this thread that I'm probably old enough to be your dad (and yes, I'm that old, lol, and I'd be certain that my statement is true), I'm comfortable in stating I'd have no problem saying anything here -- or anything I've ever posted on this forum -- directly to your or anyone else's face. Anything I ever post here, I'm polite, and in this instance I've simply pointed out the flaws in your arguments, which you're conveniently ignoring.
Usually when someone is losing a debate about something because the facts aren't on their side, they turn to making it personal, which you've done with multiple people in this thread already, so this is where I'll let you go on railing about the unfairness of Iron Maiden and ignore you from here on out. 👍
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polite haha right yeah ok if you say so your being polite ok. I dont care about debates or politics because its an endless warzone.
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Your saying someone dont have a right to not be interested about someone else ok then LOL.
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they were just saying that lots of huntress player s run it, that's all.
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Notice how he didn't reply to this meaning I'm most likely right that he came here hoping to hear an echo chamber of his opinions lol
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you just qouted yourself for not being replied to? Oh I know cause its pointless to reply to a broken record.
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Why don't you reply and prove my wrong? Or am I right? Do you want to be in an echo chamber of your own opinions? Yes or No?
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Man's just mad he's bad at the game sorry but the facts are the facts
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I can't believe we're flipping our ######### over Iron Maiden.
You realize you don't need to dodge BBQ and Chili? There's usually a 1 in 3 chance the killer heads for you, give or take some factors that make you more or less attractive to check out. Just get ready for a chase; any competent survivor knows to plan their escape routes in advance. Or pretend to work on the gen for four more seconds and then leave, so that you're not in the same place when the killer comes to check you out and wastes time searching the area. Or pretend to be running in the opposite direction and then return to the gen once the four seconds are up. Or just move close to the killer's TR - the Huntress makes this even easier because her lullaby range is a safe spot for BBQ, minus the first 5 meters. BBQ is very easy to trick, you don't need lockers.
Freaking out about a perk that lets Huntress reload faster is just ridiculous.
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says the one who complains about dh boon totems bt and meta things of survivors, all of you complain about something just as we do, you seem to only value a game , maybe its the only one you can afford and is maybe so call good at
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Did you just call Iron Maiden a meta killer perk?
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First off this is my first post on this thread secondly I rarely complain cause I'm not bad at the game so go ahead and get that bullshit out your head and third of all your complaining about maybe a bottom 20 killer Perk that is only useful on 2 killers as many others have pointed out to you nobody and I mean nobody uses it to expose you it is simply used for the faster reload and even that isn't that good lol
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Okay, but the difference is that we're complaining about things that are actually very strong, as opposed to perks that are mediocre at best and hilariously bad at worst. Like, I get it when survivors complain about NOED or Tinkerer or Devour Hope or Ruin/Undying. I play survivor and I play solo queue, I've gotten the whole works and I've seen matches where the killer's perks wrecked us from the start.
Iron Maiden? Literally only Trickster and Huntress ever use this perk (adept Legion if you really want to be pedantic), and they use it to reload faster. It's not a good perk, just a little QoL like Shadowborn that some players like to use. And you're complaining because you can't jump in a locker to dodge BBQ despite there being several other ways to dodge it and no actual need to dodge BBQ most of the time.
Just stop going in lockers if you ever jump out of one and scream. It's really that simple. Get comfortable with the other methods of dodging BBQ, or just preparing to be the next survivor chased and moving to a good tile, and you'll be a better survivor for it.
If you can't use Flashbang because of Iron Maiden - Flashbang is a meme perk anyway and there's plenty of matches you'll never get value out of it. Consider this one of them and keep playing.
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no i just mention survivor meta perks
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but whos the same killers moan on flash lights at least am using something different beside I know how to use flashbang well
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And you're resorting to a string of ad hominems and failed whataboutism instead of refuting any argument anyone has presented, which I can only assume is because you don't know how to but you still don't like that everyone is telling you you're wrong.
See? Two can play at that game.
Look. It's not just 'killer mains' that think the premise of this thread ridiculous. Good survivors wish their killer was running Iron Maiden because they rarely enter lockers in the first place. Getting Iron Maiden instead of another gen slowdown perk is a godsend. Iron Maiden does nothing to survivors except make them scream once, likely when the killer is nowhere near them, and then be cautious for the next thirty seconds. Unless the survivor is in a dead zone - and lockers are placed in structures and jungle gyms, so the only real fear is that the pallets have already been used - they've got a good shot to outlast the Exposed effect even if the killer locks onto them immediately. They also have trouble using Head On, Flashbang, and Built To Last. Ammo killers reload 50% faster. That's it, that's the perk.
It's extremely niche. The best use I ever got out of Iron Maiden was bringing it while anniversary-event farming so I could conduct orchestras of screaming survivors while we goofed around. It's not a good perk.
Oh, and to answer your other reply - go ahead and use flashbangs, please. They're so much easier to dodge than flashlights; you have advance warning to change your pathing or look up, and using them when the killer is picking up is much trickier because you have to be practically on top of them for it to work. But good killers generally don't complain about flashlights either, between the formula for dodging them and Lightborn being a thing when you run into the occasional 4-flashy 4stack. Objectively, flashlights are a good thing for killers because they're survivors that waste time following the killer in chase, waiting for someone else to go down, and they're free hits if the killer notices them before the pickup. Survivors not working on gens helps the killer, which is why it's typically only the inexperienced killers that whine about them.
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If you're having issues with bbq + iron maiden, I recommend faking running a direction for a few seconds, playing a bit more altruistically, running distortion, or running calm spirit.
I'm not sure how this discussion turned into an argument, but hopefully this'll help answer your original question.
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He doesn't want advice don't bother wasting your time it falls on deaf ears he just wants to baby rage
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well, regardless, I wanted to help.
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It's a nice effort, but it's already been suggested at least three times in this thread. No response on any of them. I don't think this is a thread where the OP wants to actually learn how to counter the perk.
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You did a good deed I approve just telling you, your advice will not be heeded
Your efforts are appreciated by me tho
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Thanks for being supportive! :)
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And thanks for being helpful even in a heated thread. For what it's worth, I hope it works.
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insulting someone is not an advise and yall are the angry ones not me cause who started swearing LOL, anyways its just angry killers or killers claiming they are survivor mains, you all complain about a bunch of crap like the usual boon totem and dead hard or iron will and many survivor things so whatever.
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its call shadow step duh apart from shadow step I know I use it its still a problem cause of locker perks, maybe if they change flash bang to be made instead of needing to go for lockers it wont be a problem.
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Thank you and it turn into an argument because you have people who started the beef first, your not one of them to say but they know themselves. But really thank you for at least being that one person who aint some prick trying to so call give advise but know overall they being sarcastic and rude and trying to use things like twitch streamers or so who I couldnt care less about. You and a few was nice enough and just gave a positive feed back, Its really these negative ones to say.
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I say false on the last part!
It is not only good on Huntress and Trickster. But also on Bubba. Bubba's 2 weaknesses are windows and lockers. Windows can partially be fixed with Bamboozle, lockers are fixed with Iron Maiden, even if survivors know their exact timing.
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Oh too bad I dont use flash lights because flash bang is far better to me maybe you or most cant use em but I know how to or other wise if it was so bad why would I bother using the perk lol. That is like me trying to use head on and totally screw it up because others can use it well with no issue but not , I do not run something I know I am not good at using compared to others if they are better at it. So ok good killers hmm who complains about DH/Boons all the time with how many of those post right ok. Flash bang is a mind gaming thing like dead hard and proper practice and use of it reps good awards at least in my case. I tend to be very lucky with them even if its a high tier killer.
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