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slugging at 5 gens

killers who slug all 4 survivors at 5 gens, even 4 or 3. why? just curious....even if the opportunity presents itself, is that even fun?

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  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
    edited November 2021

    It sometimes happens. For example, I'm running Plague, get a red vommy pool right away, down a survivor, another survivor procs IF and I down them, proccing another IF and suddenly all 4 are slugged.

    When this happens, I'll usually do one of two things. I'll either hook 2-3 people then pick the last one up and let them break free to unhook (if I'm having a good day and you haven't BMed me, or sent me to Haddonfield/Badham) or I'll just hook everyone and end the game (you BMed me, you brought nasty map offerings etc.).

    That said:

    There is a world of difference between the two.

    Facecamping is something both deliberate and self-penalizing to do. You'll lose tons of BP if you do this and often lose the game against a savvy team. I'll only do it when I care more about killing you than I do about BP/winning. If you flicky flicky macro me or teabag, I'm going full villain.

    Slugging however can happen just by the flow of the game/misplays by survivors. Chain reaction Infectious Fright for example - once you see someone scream, *get away from them*.

    If it's early game, I don't know whether you are a sweaty group or a fun group yet. If I deliberately avoid slugging, I could be handing you a stomp. I'll probably give you a chance to recover though.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    That's a survivor mistakes If it happens before gens pop. Bad individual plays and poor application of altruism. A match can end in 4min, killers have no reason to allow a snowball to happen in your favor.

  • Thrax
    Thrax Member Posts: 974

    it isn't necessary at 4 or 5 gens. go back under the bridge, troll

  • Johnny_XMan
    Johnny_XMan Member Posts: 6,432

    I don’t find it fun to slug everyone but sometimes survivors aren’t careful.

    However, I am not going out of my way to slug. Meaning down someone and leave them on the ground for no reason. That is just boring to me.

  • BadLooperQ
    BadLooperQ Member Posts: 277

    Pffft...a lot of people arguing how 4 slug happens at 5 gens.

    You'd be surprised how often that happens on low mmr hell, especially against Blights, nurses (even not experienced ones) and campers/tunnels... And considering people tend to help each other (if they're not scared), it's Just a matter of one bad decision from a single surv to everyone dying.

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 6,935

    It depends. Are you all running at me because I downed someone under a pallet or because you all have flashlights?

    Yes? I'm probably going to slug then. It doesn't matter how many generators are left.

    Outside of that, I don't typically go out of my way to slug early game for no reason, but if I know someone else is nearby and I can get a hit I'm not going to pass up free pressure.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,971

    It's scummy, but it is what it is.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,971

    It's a pretty easy thing to do with Nurse and a slugging build.

  • Beaburd
    Beaburd Member Posts: 998

    Yeah, true.

    A good Nurse can do it with more ease than most, especially with Infectious Fright - she's definitely an exception.

    Even then though, a decent split up can reduce its effectiveness.

    If you find you're facing a lot of them to the point it's an issue, builds can help with it too (Calm Spirit, CoH, DH, etc).

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    But at that point if you have a dedicated Nurse with a slug build, the answer to the original question is:

    Yes, they probably do find it fun. Probably makes them feel stronger than playing typical killers/styles.

  • Kurri
    Kurri Member Posts: 1,599

    Players that headshot enemies at the start of the round in COD? Why? Just curious... Even if the opportunity presents itself, is that even fun?

    That's how you sound. Don't start the round off in COD running out in the open.

  • Shaped
    Shaped Member Posts: 5,870

    If they got everyone you can move on to the next game easily.

    When the knockout, sloppy or whatever slug drags for ages that is unfun but still people are free to do it.

  • Lx_malice
    Lx_malice Member Posts: 1,417

    Typically if I see a survivor, then I'm going to hit the survivor. If everyone goes down then everyone goes down. Game is more than likely not over anyways.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,422

    As killer, you never know when you're going to need to being it all to keep up the pressure, and sometimes you overshoot because your opponents aren't seal team teabag for once.

    Or maybe you're expecting multiple Unbreakables or Soul Guards or just tge last survivor coming along and picking everyone up, so you slug for the added pressure early on, you don't know if you'll be able to get later.

    If I realise I'm overpowering the team early enough in the game I'll probably hold back a bit, but sometimes you don't realise until it's too late and you get to a point where you either hook everyone or you fold and intentionally let someone struggle free, which could be patronising.

  • Xeniks
    Xeniks Member Posts: 1

    𝗪𝗔𝗥𝗡𝗜𝗡𝗚: 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴 (𝗻𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗹). 𝗜 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗲𝗻𝗷𝗼𝘆 𝘄𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴. 𝗜𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵𝗹𝘆 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗹𝗮𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗴𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻 𝗳𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀, 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱. 𝗣𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗻 𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗻𝗼𝘄 𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻 𝟮𝟳𝟬 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀. 𝗧𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗸 𝘆𝗼𝘂.


    I've had that happen in a game before, main issue was people were running up to help up the person who is slugged even while they've been hurt while the killer is lurking for the "bait".

    It also really sucks when you have no communication between the 4 of you. I do TEN times better in a game as a survivor when I have a full crew in a party than by myself, even having only 2 other people in a party with me is leaving one rando to jeopardize the entire game. Communication is def key when playing, which is something a killer does not get at all. It's the greatest buff survivors have.

    I can be slugged and be like, "killer is lurking.. work on gens!." "okay he's headed your direction (survivor 1), (survivor 3) come pick me up!"

    Like having that much power is huge and can almost always guarantee a win if you have a great crew. Also makes the game a lot of fun. And having communication can piss off the killer, so we can communicate and it pisses them off just as easily as they piss you off.

    I run into a lot of face camping killers and me and my crew just sacrifice one person for them to face camp while others work on gens. It's sometimes fast enough that my friend with borrowed time can still come get me off the hook. It sucks for gaining blood points I agree. Especially when the killer doesn't care about blood points and just wants to be a dick cause he can. But I've also ran into some really cool killers that made the game fun. Even sometimes they won't down me right away and we will just play tag.

    It can get frustrating especially if you play alone, and the killer downs everyone in an instant and you only get like 5k BP for the round and here he is sitting at 30k. I've recently played against a killer who immediatly ran after everyone. He'd hook someone and then go straight for others who were far away and healing. Hell I was on the edge of the map away from all gens, self healing and after he hooked someone immediatly targeted me. "Oh he had BBQ or Nurses calling, blah blah blah."... no dude was running one lvl 1 perk with hillbilly which was tinkerer and managed to find us all the time without even really looking. People who play this game just to make a quick match and be a crappy killer is just a crappy person who probably doesn't get invited to anyone's parties cause he likes to ruin the fun. XD


    Honestly tho, lurking a hooked/downed survivor is the best advantage we get. Cause we will go around the map and just do gens, open chests, demolish totems etc. Then we will 99% both gates then one will finish a Gen and they will try to save me. If it doesn't go to plan and one gets downed we just get out of there at that point. Let the killer feel good about himself for having one sacrificed cause he sucks at playing.


    Another reason to facecamp or lurk downed survivors understandable. I been killer and some survivors can be just as dickish as the killer can be. They'll try to stop you from hooking by standing in front of you, constantly shine a flashlight everytime you pick up a survivor, loop you, tea bag you. I only tea bag is when I'm at the exit gate and killer was facecamping the entire game instead of playing it. We will wait for him to come to the gate and all three of us will just teabag just due to him being the reason we had to have a quick match instead of letting us earn those points and reach our challenges of hooked survivors and healing.

    Hell I've played a game alone and seen these three survivors teabag the killer at pallets and gens and just screwed with him during the game instead of working on gens and I just helped the killer find them all and hook them, then him and I helped eachother earn blood points and he let me go XD I felt bad for him honeslty, the lack of respect for the killer is brutal and deserves death.

    Sometimes it's best to assume if the killer is being a dick is probably because he's already dealt with a few matches with dick survivors and deserves to have a win. We've all been there.

  • KSzerker
    KSzerker Member Posts: 191

    Takes too long to pick up and hook people tbh. I almost always slug if I know where another survivor is after downing someone.

  • MrPeanutbutter
    MrPeanutbutter Member Posts: 1,586

    Killers must obey survivor rules (no slugging, “camping”, “tunneling”, etc) but survivors can play however they want

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
  • MarcoPoloYolo
    MarcoPoloYolo Member Posts: 508

    Actually, it can. Who knows if you get another opportunity to win again? A killer not choosing to pursue a slug at 5 gens should be treated as magnanimous, not as something all killers must do. If you have a problem with it, use a second chance anti-slug build to carry you through your mistakes.

  • shalo
    shalo Member Posts: 1,530

    Why? Because it was a headon squad on the swamp.


  • Labrac
    Labrac Applicant Posts: 1,285

    If your team gets all slugged at all gens it means you are full potatoes. Don't really want to waste my time with matches like this, better to get it over and try to find an actual challenging team.

  • Nathan13
    Nathan13 Member Posts: 6,714

    I agree it's boring and unnecessary. I understand slugging at the end for the 4k but not early.

  • Thunderfrog
    Thunderfrog Member Posts: 218

    That lunge into the DH seems to be why they changed the hit validation lol.

  • Deathstroke
    Deathstroke Member Posts: 3,521

    Effective tactic to get 10K bp as killer yes. I think it's stupid if I have chanses as killer I aim always to get 100K bp if I have cake or other bonus offerings. So I don't want game to end in first 5 minites.

  • The_Krapper
    The_Krapper Member Posts: 3,259
    edited April 2022

    I slug so I don't have to hear survivors mouth in the end game chat thinking they're gods because I decided to have a chill game as wraith or another low tier killer, I could still get a 2k 12 hooking everyone only to get told to "get dunked on loser" by a Claudette with less than 10,000 points who hid the whole game and got hatch or did nothing, so instead I decide to make the survivors play glow worm simulator with a better killer so I don't have to hear a damn thing in the endgame except the crickets outside my window.

  • AngyKiller
    AngyKiller Member Posts: 1,838

    Because when I let Survivors get back up, they think they had skill, and blast me in end game chat with 'ggez' and 'uninstall'.

    I will play as sweaty as I can until Survivors learn to stop being little snots in end game chat. 🤷‍♂️ Why should I go easy on them, only to have them treat me like dirt?

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Why would someone bring a six month post back from the dead to complain about slugging? 🙄

  • KerJuice
    KerJuice Member Posts: 1,913

    I consider myself to be in mid MMR- maybe even low-mid MMR, but I RARELY get slugged. Yet I see threads pop up often about slugging. Is this a HIGH MMR issue?? Can someone confirm? Me getting slugged is so rare that I have to find a new build for Bill (anti-slug build) because whenever I play with him, I get no value. It literally feels like I’m playing with no perks.

    Or is this a region thing if it’s not in high MMR?? I play on NA servers…

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,791

    Nurse. Midwich offering.


    That's how I've been 4 man slugged til bleed-out recently.