take off Bubba's mask against hate ok but also take off the t-bag

Why the ######### are you making this a killer vs survivor thing? Maybe you should be blaming racist players for getting the mask taken away, rather than the survivors who have had nothing to do with it.

Never heard of this happening, but okay. Flashlights are an integral part of gameplay at the current time, and I'm sure if the game is an issue, the persons affected have every right to complain themselves, or heed warnings and seek medical attention or not play.

Generators have flashing lights above them and flashing sparks come from them while being repaired. Doctor has flashing in his power. Why is this not being mentioned? Oh. Right, because fellow killers are only mad at flashlights.

Even so, we are talking about ACTUAL HATE BEHAVIOR, and to compare that to features that may cause adverse MEDICAL reactions is still asinine. These are different issues that need to be addressed differently.

And cyber bullying isn't hate behaviour?

Placing a lock on flashlights like "1.5 second interval between flashlight uses" is just enough. I can't see situations in which this would be detrimental to actual gameplay.

And as I said it would happen, you just said those people shouldn't play. Why didn't you say that to PoCs getting bullied by racists? In both cases it is an absolutely embarassing argument, considering simple fixes can come from the developers' side.

But anyway, if we are on the subject of epilepsy, there are people for whom situations like bullying can cause seizures. My best friend has such a condition, she is very sensible to harassment, for she immediately has seizures in such cases.

It literally is though, you can't determine if crouching in a game is toxic, you can definitely determine when someone is acting racist and saying racist remarks lmao

In the words of Stanley Hudson from The Office: "That's not what a hate crime is."

Teabagging is not harassment. Clicking flashlights is not harassment. It's annoying behavior, and bad manners, but it's not harassment, and it's not "cyberbullying".

To continue to compare these actions to racist in-game behavior just signifies you think your discomfort in game at someone taunting you is just as bad as ACTUAL RACIALLY MOTIVATED HATE BEHAVIOR.

Disgusting.

Except killer can also be toxic, stop with the Us vs Them mindset, it isn't even an argument discussion lmao you are just hating survivor players because something used in a racist way is gone lmaoo mad cope

No... I dont even care about the removal of the masks. I don't even have Bubba but I wish I did because I want to get BBQ&C.

I care about problems with the game. Like toxicity, which is still a bigger problem than a mask that could possibly be racist depending on how certain people portray themselves.

A growing problem with the game that Behavior even supports... they've made comments saying dont report people for toxic comments. That is a fundamental issue. Racism is just not in the same scale or even close.

I think this is it here. Toxicity comes in all forms, not just hate speech against certain groups of people. Yet we are openly allowing everyone to trash talk each other like it's going to help resolve such a tremendous problem with this game.

But do take notice that even they said they already ban players for racist comments. Meaning if those players were being reported for racism they should already be banned. Not sure why this should include removing in-game content or why it's even merited, when there are other more pressing concerns with the game.

If they were being racist and being reported then they should have already been banned. And if they make new accounts then those accounts will be reported and banned as well.

You're right, removing the problem item is one solution. That's a pretty easy choice to make and an easy mistake to make too. What else can be considered racist now? Sexist? Homophobic? Transphobic?

Do we continue this cycle of removing content from the game? Do we remove people of color from the game so that they aren't targeted for playing people of color?

Where do the easy choices stop?

No slippery slope fallacies, please. :P

It's already a slippery slope, or we wouldn't be here... talking about a literal in game mask that ties in with killer lore being used and abused by certain people, targeting certain players, and likely being openly racist while doing so.

Tell me what slippery slope have I gone down that we havent already seen

The one I described that is an exact scenario as the one we are currently discussing...? The one that actually happened?

Let me ask you something... do you think removing a mask will prevent racism?

We removed in game content in favor of curbing racism?

Did we just forget that or

Yes the one we are currently talking about... the removal of in game content in favor of exonerating racism from the game. I can only assume we've done that or we wouldn't be talking about it.

You're not going to win a war of words my friend... better go somewhere else for that

I did but you seem to be avoiding my answer.

We just had this conversation so I'm going to have good faith in you to remember what I've said so far

That's when I told you that you weren't going to win a war of words...

Does that ring a bell?

both of those things are hurtful so...

It does not actually answer my question. It is a quote to my post, but it is not an answer to my question. An answer to my question is either "Yes" or "No."

I don't have to dictate any answers. A factual yes/no question by default can only be answered with yes or no, assuming that the answer is indeed known.

Yes, I am expecting the only answers that fundamentally answer the question. You are not obligated to provide that answer if you do not wish to, of course. But that doesn't mean that any other response you give actually answers the question.