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Your predictions about Legion in the near future

BenZ0
BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125
edited January 2022 in General Discussions

Since Legion will get "changes" lets see what ppl think might happen to them.

Do you think its gonna be a Rework like on Freddy? Maybe some buffs like number tweaks (Shorter fatigue for example)? Maybe a new secondary power like Clown or Doctor got.

I personally think either a new secondary Power that would help them downing survivors like a little dash or something would be nice and would make Legion atleast fun to play since you are no M1 killer anymore.

I wouldnt mind a whole rework aswell though but just number tweaks arent near es enough, if BHVR decides to go with the lazy way by just simply increasing numbers then I am mad.

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Comments

  • FreshCoal
    FreshCoal Member Posts: 174

    He needs a complete rework. He is easily the weakest killer in the game, and is extremely boring to go against. Since he has no power against an injured survivor, its very easily to loop him for multiple minutes if you are in a decent setup. And if you aren't getting ez loops on him, then you just hold m1 on gens and leave in 4 minutes.

    His trailer teased him as a stealth killer that could transform into a survivor. Even if they dont do that, I hope that they make some way to have all 4 legion members in one map at a time.

  • ZFennecFox
    ZFennecFox Member Posts: 510

    I personally love his current concept before BHVR had the bright idea to change them. I would love to see it become a Token based system. Each time a survivor is struck while in Frenzy fills the bar for a second time after the bar is filled Feral Frenzy activates and each strike can damage for one health state. If a survivor enters the Dying state while Feral Frenzy is activated it goes on cooldown for however long the bar was when the survivor was downed.

    Basically you hit survivors in Frenzy to build up a charge when that charge is full you enter Feral Frenzy and have a certain time similarly to Oni to down survivors. If a survivor is downed in that time Feral Frenzy resets to Frenzy with the charge left over.

  • Dino7281
    Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,294

    I can get behind this. Kinda all of it...

    I really don't want whole rework, just buffs to his current kit and addon pass.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    Ye you hit the nail with all that. Although I like the "run" gameplay style of Legion.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    I like the idea but I think this would be too frustrating to play against since there is basicly no counterplay in frenzy.

  • ZFennecFox
    ZFennecFox Member Posts: 510

    But there is. Pallet Stuns, Missing attacks, The bar running out, Being blinded, and Head on, Their is still counter play

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    No rework like Freddy.

    Already lost one unique killer that i really enjoyed playing who turned into a boring anti-loop.Really don't need another.

    Freddy's rework is the worst thing that happened in this game and it really doesn't need repeating.

    I would honestly rather see a nerf then a complete rework. Something like clown or doctor where they add to their power rather then completly stripping it.

  • SunsetSherbet
    SunsetSherbet Member Posts: 1,607

    Going by their recent changes to Clown...Maybe halving the percentage of the sketch add ons?


    Oh you meant buffs. I don't know...? Make it so they can see scratch marks in frenzy? Probably that and then call it a day.

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,424

    *Legion is no longer able to vault pallets in Frenzy. Frenzy movement speed has been increased by 2% to compensate.

    Devs probably lmao.

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,024

    Please, PLEASE, for the love of god do NOT repeat the disaster that is the Freddy rework. People actually enjoyed old Freddy, and I know there are many people out there that enjoy current Legion. Just give Legion buffs (there are plenty possible buffs to them, such as movement speed stacking per survivor hit, removal of the gauge depletion after M1ing, decreasing the post frenzy fatigue, etc), and an addition to their power similar to the Doctor and Clown reworks.

    I'm not really sure what to predict, but I'll guess we're getting a Legion nerf for some reason idk.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 21,032

    No, he needs a rework.

    His design is bad. Also, really? We're gonna use the CLOWN rework as a positive example?

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,024
    edited January 2022

    I was using both Doctor's and Clown's rework as an example. Both of them involve additions to their kits while keeping their overall gameplay, I never implied anything positive about either of their reworks (even tho I actually like their reworks)

    I don't think it's good to delete an entire killer, unless they're absolutely unhealthy for DBD or no one enjoys playing as them (in which the latter is false because some people actually like playing Legion.)

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    tbf the yellow bottles are really fun and pretty good. They ONLY suck because you have just 4 bottles and they share each other, this only makes them appear "weak". If BHVR would use their brains and seperate them or increase the base bottle count then the yellow bottles would have finally more room to shine.

  • RenRen
    RenRen Member Posts: 1,443

    I honestly don't know what they're gonna do. All I hope is that he gets a full rework but keeps the feeling that they have right now.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 21,032

    They did not move Clown out of bottom tier.

    Doctor's rework was good.

    Legion's design is fundamentally flawed. I can explain more if requested.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    Doctors rework also let him at the same spot, nothing much has changed about him? Yes it was good but also didnt made him stronger.

    Well I wouldnt call it fundamentally flawed, it was obvious what BHVR planned to create with Legion. McLean also said in a stream that the "disguise" thing in the trailer was just made up from the trailer team, the plan from the devs themselves was to have a "running" killer that is just as swift as Survivors, and they obviously hit the nail with it. Is it good? No. Is it fun? Arguably. The point is they had a intention and brought it into the game so therefore it cant be "fundamentally" wrong. We the players have different wishes and hopes, we just want fun and creative Killers, and the devs are obviously trying to make fun and creative Killers.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 21,032
    edited January 2022

    Doctor's rework made him WAY better wdym???

    Also, no, legion isn't "wrong". His design is BAD. He can't ever be anything other than Old Legion or current Legion. Minor buffs aren't going to help him at all and you can't give him major buffs without creating old Legion again.

    He is THE worst Killer for a reason.

  • theblimp
    theblimp Member Posts: 162

    Add the ability to down insta down in frenzy

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,523

    Feral Frenzy will change to a halfway point between a Billy chainsaw and a Blight rush. Charge time, and a rush forward with limited turning/no bounce for a single health state of damage. Landing a hit means continuing the rush. 1 million dollars if I'm right.

  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452

    Probably some number tweaks in the power and add-ons and maybe removing the half-bar depletion on stuns and m1s.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,985

    Agreed. I'm hoping they don't change him too much. Legion is one of my favorite killers and I've mained him since launch. I can usually do well with him and love his playstyle.

  • Vampwire
    Vampwire Member Posts: 709

    I don't want a complete rework necessarily. Seeing a more modernized version of their power would be more like it. Remember that legion was never suppose to function how they do now. They did have a legitimate power concept, but it was completely stupid and busted. Behaviour had to hit the killswitch on them in order to keep the game somewhat playable. So that's why they're the wet noodle they are now. Injuring the whole team is still good but frenzy still sucks. Often times you'll hit one or two people. By the time you hear the heartbeat of someone else you're half way through the power gauge. It's basically speed limiter bubba with deep-wound. I would hope that they would keep up with legion being able to sprint. Maybe a dash attack or removing the heavy stun penalties on frenzy to allow mobility. Also rework their trash add-ons they're literally so bad.

  • chargernick85
    chargernick85 Member Posts: 3,171

    Legion moves 1% faster in Frenzy and now has a 3.5 second fatigue.

    To compensate he can no longer vault pallets/windows (in frenzy). Iri Button reworked to Frenzy hits apply blindness for 5 seconds.

  • Sludge
    Sludge Member Posts: 768

    I expect even more fatigue, tank controls in frenzy, possibly filling a token bar, animation lock, dizzy spells and vomiting after failed hit etc.

    Just making him as clunky and unfun to play as possible, that seems to be the pattern.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446

    I definitely do not want a full rework.

    What I'd like are the following.

    1. No more losing the power bar after a successful M1 and when you pick someone up in Frenzy.
    2. Honestly... the charge time in general could be buffed a ton. Like... its a non lethal power. Why does it take 20s to fully recharge? Actually I do know the answer to that. It's so Frank's Mix Tape stays... but they could make it add more CD
    3. I'd love to see it that if Legion ends Frenzy while not in chase and at least 8m from Survivors, the Fatigue is only 1s. That would allow Frenzy to be used for mobility.
    4. I've seen someone mention a stacking movement speed boost for every successful Frenzy hit, just to make chain hitting a bit more reliable. That'd be nice.
    5. Add on pass. Legion's add ons aren't bad, they're no Pyramid Head add ons. But most of them aren't very interesting or transformative. I'd like to see more interesting and useful add ons.
  • Dionysus42
    Dionysus42 Member Posts: 427

    Legion doesn't have a kill rate under 50%. Enjoy the nerf

  • psionic
    psionic Member Posts: 670
    edited January 2022

    I hope they give more status rather than only deep wound.

    Increase the speed and duration of frenzy.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,760

    I would have liked them to do something unique and fitting of the term "Legion".

    IE All 4 members spawn in random places, 3 as husks.

    The active Legion could high five a husk to trade places with them/switch characters.

    Feral Frenzy would function the same, but if you hit 2+ people and AFTER cooldown, each member would have a different buff for X amount of time (also varies by buff).

    IE

    Frank would get increased pallet breaks for 40s

    Susie would be 2% faster for 30s

    Joey would have increased hit/miss cooldown for 60s

    Julie would be able to leave her terror radius at the husk for 30s

    Could probably add some type of survivor item (ie Spray Paint to keep with the Anarchy theme) that would allow the survivors to apply various debuffs to the husks that THE KILLER IS ALSO AWARE OF which could add a fun risk/reward factor to both sides.

    I just want them to be THE LEGION T_T