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Possibility of BT Basekit
In the latest Q&A stream, when asked the question, "Will we ever see basekit BT or DS to counter tunneling and camping?"
They answered: "We have no plans to make DS basekit." When asked again, they re-iterated they are only confirming that DS will not be basekit.
Obviously this implies that they are at least considering basekit BT.
Thoughts?
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I hope not that ruins my ability to destroy toxic survivors lmao but for real idk how to feel about that honestly
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Interesting possibility, only thing I would point out is that it would result in BT being reworked and tbh, thats worrying
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My thoughts are to not read to much into it.
If you do and they don't then the dissapointment is entirely on you
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You can only discuss something like that IF there are actual plans AND we know what should happen exactly. They can also just introduce a 5 second Endurance at base and change the Perk to something entirely different, which would be a Buff for camping overall. Just as an example.
Sadly he phrased it that way, now Killers will flood the Forums that the game will be dead soon™ and that Killer will become unplayable because of "BT Basekit"...
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Probably a stupid question but where can I watch the dev stream?
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Here you go bestie
EDIT: Thanks copy and paste for taking the HTTP with it, appreciate it
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Huh. On the one hand, I don't mind it as an anti-camping measure, but on the other hand, I don't like it as a free pass for survivors to stack even more meta perks. And it just makes 'bodyblock the killer from attacking the unhooker' that much more of an issue.
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If this is coming with several killer buffs then I'm ok with it, the only issue is that Behavior don't have the best track record for making changes in the best interest of killers.
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Not watching the stream atm, but I'm willing to bet that they did not actually intend for their statement to be read in such a manner. :p
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Holy crap your question got picked!! lmao
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This is a big one. It's equivalent to Survivors having 5 perk slots.
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Maybe after the game loses another 10k players, then those words will start meaning something
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more bodyblocking the killer just what we need.
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Hey, if you can't even get to the unhooking survivor, no need to fix how easily grabs are cancelled! /s
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I hate BT as well, but I'm willing to see how to buff solo que survivors in order to level the playing field with SWF. That is the only way they'll be able to properly buff killers without destroying the game. Right now, they balance around solo que where they should balance around SWF.
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So long as some changes to how BT works were made, I'd be okay with it. Body blocking for the protection hit, for instance, would need to go.
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Imagine being that bad at the game you need BT to be basekit.
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I think that you are reading more into what they said than is intended.
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What was I supposed to get from it?
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Hopefully not, that sounds terrifying
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To me, they implied that neither would be basekit.
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I'll try to find a clip.
Here?
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Cool. Can't really watch it myself as I'm on my phone.
That said, I wouldn't mind some sort of lesser BT basekit, as long as killers get some sort of buff in return. I'd love to not have to camp and tunnel in some matches.
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If they nerf BT respectably...then they could possibly make it basekit so that other perks can shine.
For the love of the Entity, if they dont nerf a world where all survivors have BT... they better be good at making AI killers
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BT is a perk you always want whoever unhooks you to have, but you have no control over that, and that's dumb. It should be basekit; buff Killers if necessary to compensate.
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I'm a killer only player and I'm totally ok with the idea of Borrowed Time being base kit, provided that if they make that change they also compensate to keep the overall balance from shifting too much, say by slowing gens down a bit. I get the idea of why they're apparently considering Borrowed Time as a base ability, it's to make it less likely that survivors get hooked two or three times in a row which obviously isn't all that fun for the survivor on the receiving end. But if they did that change totally on its own it would probably be kind of a disaster balance wise, so it really would need to be paired with a change that makes up for it for the kill rates.
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as long as they make survivors intangible while they are under it's effect, I'm fine. but I wouldn't be surprised if they split the difference and make 6 seconds of BT base and the perks just gives another 6 seconds.
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It wouldn't bother me even as a killer main. Killers need to learn other ways to get kills instead if tunneling.
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Bubba: "Oh no.... anyway".
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They said they have NO plans atm to slow down gens without perks
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As long as the unhooked survivor can’t bodyblock for the unhooker, sure.
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No he didn't.
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They also didn't say they have plans atm to make Borrowed Time part of the base game.
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It would likely be a survivor nerf as you usually have to respect BT anyways, but I doubt it would be 12 seconds basekit. Maybe it would got to 8. And that is really easy to play around for tunneling purposes. DS is WAY better which is why they aren't even vaguely considering it.
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They also literally avoided saying that they had no plans to make BT basekit.
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Right. All they implied was the BT basekit thing wasn't entirely off the table, as compared to Decisive Strike which they explicitly said will not be base kit.
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Awesome change. I expect it every single time as killer anyway and play like everybody has it so it should just be basekit already.
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It was incredibly obvious that the unspoken message was “we are looking at making BT basekit”. Doesn’t mean it will happen, but don’t be surprised if it does because they are at least discussing and maybe starting to work on testing it
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I agree with this. I’m fine with disincentivizing tunneling if we can also remove a big reason why killers tunnel, which is the imbalanced state of the game. Give killers some buffs to compensate and I’m also fine with built-in anti-tunnel
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The devs are just mindgaming...
After the grind fix, mori rework, they will also fix face camping. But the game will be dead long before that.
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I'd rather not have something as powerful as BT basekit
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BT is an extraordinarily strong perk, it should not just be basekit.
this would literally just encourage even more players to mindlessly unhook right in the killers face, because they wont be punished for it anyway.
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A fan of hitting and tunneling the unhooked players?
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Then killers should stop tunneling off hooks
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Yes, I thoroughly enjoy winning a game of DbD while playing as efficiently as possible, how'd you know?
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I don't see the problem with BT basekit, people already use it every match and it's a good measure against boring tunnelers
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Thats literally not a fair argument. Because people will still tunnel past bt. Well actually depends.... cause actual tunneling is focusing on ONE person to get them out of them game, the "going after any unhooked person" feels like a cope mechanism for people.
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Honestly it gets rid of me being farmed off hook despite me bringing borrowed to help others. Always hurts to not have the favour returned. So i see this as mostly good as i respect bt anyway.
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I'm not really a fan of getting bodyblocked by someone I'm actively trying not to tunnel.
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The issue with making BT basekit isn't that having BT basekit would be too strong.
The issue is that it basically just adds a 5th perk slot for survivors, and another second chance is going to be rammed into that space every time.
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