Are killers getting mad over Boil Over?

I've seen some footage of it, and goddamn does it look annoying to play against.

I don't blame people for getting mad.

It doesn't make me mad. In fact, I've only seen it a couple of times since the update, and I haven't seen anyone pull off an infinite with it in the actual game (have seen videos of it here).

I still tunnel and camp survivors running Boil Over to death, yes. It is always good to be proactive.

I haven't gotten mad at Boil Over, I did have one frustrating hook tonight though where I literally couldn't steer myself around a rock to get to a hook because of that crazy stagger it does. I legitimately couldn't move forward at all, only to the left. I got stuck for a good five or six seconds with the hook maybe 2 meters away, super annoying!

Otherwise I haven't had too much of an issue with Boil Over so far. That same survivor tried to run to the second story of the main Ironworks building, for instance, but I just used the fire escape and got the hook no problem. (She was probably hoping I wouldn't notice the Boil Over icon and would just jump down from the ledge.) In fact I think almost all the times I've had trouble with Boil Over have I think always been due to the huge stagger effect, not the dropping from a height boost. (Off hand I can only think of one survivor who got away because I dropped off something and even there I think it was my own fault since I had another route and wasn't paying attention.)

If a player uses a map offering to a two-story map and I see a survivor has Boil Over, I'm going to assume that player intends to abuse it and I should kill them while I can.

Otherwise I don't really care. I've seen it heavily abused in a few survivor games of mine, though. I've been lucky enough to avoid a Flip Flop/Tenacity/Unbreakable/Boil Over squad as killer, but I've also been dodging RPD offerings, so that's probably why.

Its very map dependent and depending on that I’ll decide whether it’s worth it to camp them or not.

What buffs would you give Survivors?

@WishIcouldmain Pretty much. You'd think the devs would have learned their lesson, but once again, they prove they won't think ahead with some of their decisions. Instead, it's 'we're monitoring things,' which means 3 to 6 months, minimum, before changes.

Don’t you know they need the StAtIsTiCs

It's too much on top of everything else, and players with decency and some common sense will notice that this is a teeny tiny bit over tuned. The wriggle effect alone would warrant the usage perk, but the +25% bonus for taking two steps at once at a staircase makes it a broken perk.

Its so overturned that the common practice is to slug anyone who wields it, sorta defeating its purpose. Instead of diversifying the stale survivor meta by elevating a mediocre perk to usability, its indeed so strong in its niche, that you will 95% not be able to play out its strengths because you get preemptively slugged, so it will get shelved again, after a few tests runs, and everyone is back to DH, DS, IW, BT, Unbreakable, CoH or maybe another exhaustion perk for variety.

This. Just...all of this

Maybe it's a controller thing or maybe I just need to somehow Git Gud against it but if you don't have a completely clear shot to a hook that is relatively close by, you're screwed. Losing someone from your grip USED to be something that took a combination of teammates helping their downed comrade plus a little bit of luck but I'm getting people wiggling out of my grip with no help from anyone (at least) once a game. Sometimes it's people who are abusing it and are well aware of what they're doing (running up to a second floor any time I see them) but many times, it's I can't get my killer to get through a GD doorway.

At this point, I've started downing people and then looking around them to make sure I know EXACTLY where the nearest hook is just in case they have Boil Over just so I have a damn chance to actually hook someone instead of them escaping.

How in the world the devs pushed this out thinking that is was perfectly fine is a mystery that will baffle me for the rest of my DBD days...

I had a flashlight claudette that would run to the top of the stairs on artists map. I tried to ignore the perk the first few times but I never was able to hook her because there were no hooks nearby and then knock around effect can easily force me off the staircases so I started slugging her and then go after someone else while the others would try to pick her up. That interaction with her wasn't fun or interesting it was very irritating.

BL is also suppose to trigger on a great height, but often you can drop a tiny bit and have it trigger.

I knew it would be an issue and I was concerned the moment I saw that when the dev notes dropped. I knew it would be the exact same code as BL, and I've used BL. A 2 inch drop can count as a great fall for it. So I am not shocked it ended up being the same with this perk. A big issue is that the killer can't know if a drop will stagger them because it's virtually random. I have had sections on maps where a fairly large fall doesn't trigger BL, and I've had ones where the tiniest drop does. As a killer, if the survivor has boil over I will just have to avoid every drop, because I really have no way of knowing if the game will randomly decide a drop is from a "great height" even if it's a 2 inch fall off a pebble. It requires you to avoid all drops, even the smallest, because the trigger is so inconsistent and you can't really know what will trigger it, so you just need to play as if everything triggers it. It will not be fixed, because it's almost certainly the same code as BL and that has never been fixed. It just shouldn't be on the perk at all. If they can fix it then cool. But I really doubt it.