If BT becomes base kit...

The idea with Corrupt Intervention and/or a similar protection for the first minute of Hex perks has has been discussed a few times here and could work.

Another idea that I want to throw into the room is something that could be s̶t̶o̶l̶e̶n̶ borrowed from Warframe. In Warframe you have 8 main slots to insert mods that modify your stats, ie your build. I dont want to go into detail, but there are several hundreds of mods, yet only a relatively small number of meta mods that are widely used. In most builds some 5-7 mod slots are already used up by the meta mods. To fight this and allow for a bit of variety somewhere during its live cycle they added a 9th slot that would only load mobility mods, ie mods that modified one of the weaker aspects of the game, letting you glide or slide longer, climb walls or whatever. While there are certain meta mods for the movement slot, its much more open to personal taste and can be experimented with.

Long talk for nothing, we could think about adding something like this to DBD, ie a fifths perk slot that will only slot a certain subsect of the perks. Maybe aura reading or just the rarely used utility perks that give you a very niche advantage. Something thats probably not meta, but fun to experiment with.

Of course, people would always find the strongest combination of everything, but I would like to have some more freedom to try out some of the more niche or situational perks without hamstringing myself.

Of course not lmao

Im just saying alot of killer adddns work exactly like perks but often times better due to being limited used

I do not actually care too much and if anything, it would likely be a survivor nerf as we aren't getting 12 seconds of invulnerability base kit. It will make bad tunnelers worse, and alpha chad tunnelers better. Good design.

I'd rather they address face camping tbh

If Borrowed Time becomes base kit the simplest way to rebalance is just slightly increase the amount of time it takes to finish gens. That is a single numerical parameter that can be very easily changed from a programming standpoint in as small or large amount as desired. If it turned out that the free Borrowed Time was causing too many escapes than a few more seconds per gen would probably be enough to counterbalance that. Doing something like adding a fifth perk slot would be way more complicated and could introduce all sorts of other unintended broken consequences.

I never really do understand why people complain about BT in general. If you don't tunnel survivors, it completely nullifies the perk. And if they bodyblock you with BT, just wait it out and then down them, or hit them and get it over with, simple.

But lets suppose BT does become baskit. Killers should absolutely not have a 5th perk slot, that would kill the game instantly because everyone would start running Ruin/Undying/Pop/Pain Res/Tinkerer or some other nasty perk combo like that, that 5th perk slot would have so much more value than BT being basekit. Instead, make a killer perk basekit, like Agitation or something. Something not overly powerful but still decent enough, similar to BT.

And if a perk was chosen to be basekit, maybe make the equippable version of said perk extend or increase the effects of said perk, like make BT basekit for 6 seconds or something, and equipping the perk extends it back to it's normal 12 or whatever, and the same would go for the killer's perk.

All in all, I personally couldn't care less if BT was made basekit. Obviously weaken its effect a little bit but I'm the kind of person who actively avoids tunneling, so BT doesn't affect me whatsoever.

Increasing mending time after borrowed time would be a lot better fix IMO: If the survivor with active BT goes for a protection hit, they will have to waste let's say 30 seconds for mending. Maybe adding some incapacitated status effect so that they can't do gens before they mended.

My suggestion also discourages tunneling even after hitting the unhooked survivor, because the killer knows that the survivor can't do anything for 30 seconds, so it is not worth it to chase them.

Yeah I could live with increasing mending time on Deep Wounds in general since Deep Wounds are probably a bit too weak overall anyway.

In solo queue b/t base would be great. For swf's who could rotate charges of it not so much.

so make corrupt intervention as basekit too

Why's that? The game's already insanely easy for survivor. If you have someone run the killer for a minute (very easy with DH/Pre-Drop), you get 180 seconds of gen time out of 400. If they also happen to have the other perks for BT and DS then that's another minute the two survivors on gens can get for 300/400 without basically any effort on the survivor's part. All that's left is the last 100 seconds where survivors might encounter the slightest of difficulty.

They never said or implied anything about BT basekit. I was watching the live Q&A.

I agree that as tunneling and camping becomes harder to do killers will need a buff. But you can't change looping, it's the best part of the game. which leaves perks and abilities. Buffing every ability would be too hard so giving killers 5-6 perks would be great! HOWEVER, they would need a limit on slow down and chase perks. Having 6 slow down perks would ruin the game. Every killer would be slowdown Freddy and everyone would quit. Then having 6 chase perks would be a nightmare. Even as a pure meme build people already can't handle my fire up, bamboozle, brutal strength, and enduring trapper. I can't imagine having franklin's/spirit fury and lightborn as well.

Adding a limit of how many of each type of perk would be a great way to give killers more power without making them insanely oppressive.