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Making Pig Viable
Pig has been at the bottom of the tier list for a longtime she’s regarded as the worst killer in the game, and has become a meme in the community of being nerfed. With all that aside here’s how I would change pig while still keeping her the same and not reworking her.
1.Make undetectable activate at the same time you start crouching.
you probably don’t know this but when pig crouches her undetectable doesn’t activate until she’s fully crouched. Other killers like Ghostface and wraith who have undetectable as soon as you press the button they become undetectable, pig you need to wait for the animation to finish then it activates. It should be as soon as you press the crouch button you become undetectable.
2.Make the Roar sound play at the end of the dash not at the beginning.
this is simple this will make her more stealthy and not reveal herself to early.
3.Ambush will now break pallets.
nice and simple when you dash into a pallet it will break and play the animation as if you hit someone with a dash.
4.Ambush charge time is now .50 seconds down from .75 seconds.
simple make pig more versatile and not clunky.
5.Interlocking Razor and razor wires are basekit.
to match the movie your inflicting harm on yourself to get the trap off it should be basekit to make removing a trap more risky.
as for the rest here’s the addon changes since some are base kit
Johns Medical File-Increases movement speed during ambush by 3%
Interlocking Razor-Increases crouch movement speed by 3%
Razor Wires-Increased crouch movement speed by 6%
these are all the changes I would make to pig nice and simple no rework needed. Do you agree?
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How to make pig viable make her ambush longer in duration and speed enought so she can be a treat on pallets.
Right now on long looks she do nothing.
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I think the most important thing to change with Pig is the RNG within the headtraps. Seriously, if i could do one change to her, i would make five boxes spawn... and force survivors to do four of them "no more no less" (that would also get rid of box camping issue).
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While this post is elaborate, well thought out, and provides explanations on every point, Pig has the highest kill rate of any killer. So clearly based on this we need to nerf her again while we buff Blighted crow and Alch ring.
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Pig needs:
- Better RNG system
- Remove the possibility that the pig can camp the last jigsaw box effectively
- Better movility while crouch (like 95% speed, 100% with addon)
- Higher PoV while crouched (like Victor)
- Ambush longer and/or faster (1 seg longer is ok and still not op)
- Ambush can be launched while crouching without having to stand
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Don’t forget they buffed adrenaline vial and now it’s his best addon along with Alch ring, blighted rat and crow, Compund 21 and 33
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Make her dash usable at least.
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Adrenaline Vial is not his best add-on. It's playable now. You think it should be nerfed?
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No? When did I say it should be nerfed? I was just saying it’s a great addon now along the lines of those others
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You're saying it's as good as Alchemist's Ring though, which people say is his best add-on which needs to be nerfed, so how is that not what you're saying?
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My rework for Pig:
Jigsaw boxes never allow the survivors to get the trap off first go. If the survivor selects the first box correctly, the next box they do will have the key instead.
Crouching should be instant like Ghost Face's.
Ambush duration should last .5 to 1 seconds longer, and successfully landing it should apply a debuff of some sort.
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I didn’t say it was as strong as alch ring I never said that. I said it’s strong along with the other addons I didn’t say it’s just as strong
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"1.Make undetectable activate at the same time you start crouching."
I've heard the devs say that the reason they make the TR gradually fade out/in is to make it more convincing that a Pig is leaving the area to bait a Survivor into coming back. Not sure if it's worth it, but there ya go.
"2.Make the Roar sound play at the end of the dash not at the beginning."
Hell yeah.
"3.Ambush will now break pallets."
Ehhh, I do think she needs help with loops (which is sad), but it feels weird to make her Ambush be able to smash up a pallet. Might I suggest letting her jump the pallet while ambushing instead?
"4.Ambush charge time is now .50 seconds down from .75 seconds."
Might need to nerf or change the add-ons that reduce charge time if you do this.
"5.Interlocking Razor and razor wires are basekit."
This is a bit of a tricky one, as I think they suck as add-ons but might be a bit of a problem if made base-kit. It invites scenarios where the Pig finds someone at a Box, said someone lets go to run away, but because a Skill Check coincidentally popped up at the wrong time, now they are essentially able to be one-shotted because of what essentially amounted to RNG.
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I think you misunderstood number 1 it’s confusing to talk about but basically. Pigs undetectable doesn’t activate until she’s fully crouched and then the TR fades, while Ghostface as soon as you press the button he becomes undetectable instantly and the TR fades. Pig when you press the button the effect doesn’t activate you have to wait for her to crouch then undetectable kicks in and THEN the TR fades. I made it so when you press the button undetectable activates instantly then the TR fades like normal. I made the crouch like Ghostface so its consistent
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I understand where your getting at with Pigs blade being small to break pallets compared to the chainsaw, Kanabo or claws. But remember it’s a video game and where in the entity’s realm anything is possible.
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I don't think that's consistent with how things function. The Undetectable doesn't kick in until the TR disappears completely. As long as it's still fading away, her TR isn't fully gone.
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It’s very complicated I’ll have to upload 2 videos to show what I’m talking about.
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