Toxic killers on console

yea the console killers have got pretty bad as of late I play solo and it not fun being save off a hook just to be hit put back on again.

@Master said:

@Broosmeister said:
I play on PS4 and 7 out of 10 games i get campers and tunneling garbage. Even without survivors swarming the hook, hell, even when there are only 2 guys left. Camping and tunneling is just usual for garbage killers.

I just got out of my fith game in a row where i got camped and tunneled, i play solo so sometimes i dom't even get saved off the first hook.

[BAD WORD] you console killers

Isnt camping and tunneling just a killer doing his objective?

@Master said:

@NekoGamerX said:
yea the console killers have got pretty bad as of late I play solo and it not fun being save off a hook just to be hit put back on again.

Sounds like they are doing pretty well, not bad

not really but whatever I mean it hurt the killer in the long run I hold out eat the death but every game camped then I end up feeling bad because I couldn't save someone from the hook that's where the points are if you can do it safely if I can i try not to bother and it suck in the end.are you killer mean or something? before you ask me I play both only time I camp and tunnel is if I'm seeing 3 Survivors around me when I'm carry one of them it happens a lot.

Toxic for doing the objective? I should post my thousand screenshots of rank 2-4's exploiting the ranking system on PS4 every season with 3 rank 15-20's when I am between killer rank 8 to 13. Killers do not know if they are going against a rank exploiting groups that they "must" camp and tunnel to get absolutely any points... as the 3 "body guards" protect the high ranking person or if it is the 1 in 100 that is a "legit" group.
Ya know what the best solution that I can offer those survivors that do not like to be tunneled and camped?

DON'T GET CAUGHT! LOL!!!

Survivors even whine about BBQ... yet that is THE skill to get my P3-50 Spirit moving off the hook... but guess what? Since the latest patch and "brighter" gens... with "smart" survivors hiding behind the gen to not get their aura seen... well, if you stop my method that I enjoy using for leaving the hook and getting some points by cycling through people (the whole damn point of the perk...) INSTEAD of camping... What should I do whiners? Just AFK and let you get out? Seriously people.

Get over yourself and learn to not get caught in the first place.

I don't see myself playing the game normally at this point.Since the last patch the game is no longer fun for me, every match to me is a bloodpoint farm just to finish getting the rest of the perks. The devs greatly contributed to it after they released a broken patch and engine update and then just left it. Players directing their blame to killers or survivors while the devs are really the ones who are responsible for whatever is going on in this game. 4 ds? noed? camping? gen rush? It's in the game. Devs decided to make it possible, don't blame the players

Oh yeah it's been going on a lot for me too but just today, ALL Wraiths of course. I hate that most campers play Leatherface and Wraith, it really makes those killers look bad and that's not cool. It takes the fun out of the game, knowing they're camping and that they will get tunneled, mightas well let them die and do Gens, that's not fun, there's no terror, just disappointment.

@thesuicidefox said:

@BlackViperCom said:

@thesuicidefox said:
I'll be willing to bet most of the tunneling is because your survivor group did like 3 gens in the first chase.

I tend to not tunnel people as I get more points if they run off and heal because if I put them on the hook in the first place, I will catch them again and hit them twice to gain even more... After my P3-50 Spirit gains all level 3 perks (already have all perks available), I will no longer need points and will try and gain rank. I also need more practice finding people than standing there and waiting for someone to come to me that may actually never arrive (too climb the ladder).

However... this is why "garbage" killers, as OP put it... "tunnel"...

Everyone... be serious here... you are the killer... stay with me... someone is rescued from the hook... stay... with... me...

You must hit one of those people a single (one) time to down them... the other, twice (two).

Which do you pick because you need to put people down fast to delay generator repair?

If the player answering the question is a survivor main that never played killer, the answer is TWO!
If the player is neutral, while they play survivor, the answer is two, but while they play killer, it is one.
If the player is a killer main, the obvious choice is one... why make the game twice as difficult as it already is?!?

All players, if wanting to "win", would pick "one". It is ridiculous to even suggest anything else.

With a voice com using SWF, anything other than answering one is basically an automatic derank... but killers have no idea if it is a "PUG" or a well coordinated SWF Rank 2 with 3X rank 15 bodyguards. Those garbage killers need to tunnel to fight garbage survivors. The easiest way to ensure a fighting chance with wild unknowns is tunnel everyone. Enough said.

Get real people. Get real. LOL!

As a side note: If I had the choice between killing strictly PUG or SWF, I would still go SWF as it is the most interesting and challenging... and if that option existed, hook me up with more BP if I pick SWF! (hint hint).

But if the group hasn't done a single gen you can afford to go after the "two hit" guy. I have no problem doing that I will even let the injured guy run past me without hitting them if that's the case. But most of the time, groups rush through gens which means I'm forced to go after the injured guy if I want to keep up.

Killers that outright for the injured guy with 5 gens and Ruin still up are the trash killers because they have no reason to do it.

Ruin can go away 1 second after playing to lose as a killer.
Letting survivors just walk by you is playing to lose.
Sounds like a survivor main justification. LOL!

Let's flip the coin... When all generators are done and not one, but two location are available to leave and impossible to be at both locations at once... how about all survivors just run to the killer and get hooked if they have not been on the hook before? I mean, hey, all generators are done so they have no reason to exit so fast and can afford to get hooked... Right? LOL!

@BlackViperCom said:

@thesuicidefox said:

@BlackViperCom said:

@thesuicidefox said:
I'll be willing to bet most of the tunneling is because your survivor group did like 3 gens in the first chase.

I tend to not tunnel people as I get more points if they run off and heal because if I put them on the hook in the first place, I will catch them again and hit them twice to gain even more... After my P3-50 Spirit gains all level 3 perks (already have all perks available), I will no longer need points and will try and gain rank. I also need more practice finding people than standing there and waiting for someone to come to me that may actually never arrive (too climb the ladder).

However... this is why "garbage" killers, as OP put it... "tunnel"...

Everyone... be serious here... you are the killer... stay with me... someone is rescued from the hook... stay... with... me...

You must hit one of those people a single (one) time to down them... the other, twice (two).

Which do you pick because you need to put people down fast to delay generator repair?

If the player answering the question is a survivor main that never played killer, the answer is TWO!
If the player is neutral, while they play survivor, the answer is two, but while they play killer, it is one.
If the player is a killer main, the obvious choice is one... why make the game twice as difficult as it already is?!?

All players, if wanting to "win", would pick "one". It is ridiculous to even suggest anything else.

With a voice com using SWF, anything other than answering one is basically an automatic derank... but killers have no idea if it is a "PUG" or a well coordinated SWF Rank 2 with 3X rank 15 bodyguards. Those garbage killers need to tunnel to fight garbage survivors. The easiest way to ensure a fighting chance with wild unknowns is tunnel everyone. Enough said.

Get real people. Get real. LOL!

As a side note: If I had the choice between killing strictly PUG or SWF, I would still go SWF as it is the most interesting and challenging... and if that option existed, hook me up with more BP if I pick SWF! (hint hint).

But if the group hasn't done a single gen you can afford to go after the "two hit" guy. I have no problem doing that I will even let the injured guy run past me without hitting them if that's the case. But most of the time, groups rush through gens which means I'm forced to go after the injured guy if I want to keep up.

Killers that outright for the injured guy with 5 gens and Ruin still up are the trash killers because they have no reason to do it.

Ruin can go away 1 second after playing to lose as a killer.
Letting survivors just walk by you is playing to lose.
Sounds like a survivor main justification. LOL!

Let's flip the coin... When all generators are done and not one, but two location are available to leave and impossible to be at both locations at once... how about all survivors just run to the killer and get hooked if they have not been on the hook before? I mean, hey, all generators are done so they have no reason to exit so fast and can afford to get hooked... Right? LOL!

this game is meant to be fun on both sides. lets face facts one can't play without the other. when i play the killer i don't always need the 4k kill every match so yeah i go for the two .If i hooked everyone at least once or twice killed two, two got away then I think it was a good game. I try not to be a jerk same as a survivor if i'm able to get out i try not staying near the exit to just t bag be total d bag if i'm still at the exit most likely trying to think if i could or should save this person on a hook.and i couldn't care less about the ranking it's a joke anyway on both sides.

thesuicidefox said:

I'll be willing to bet most of the tunneling is because your survivor group did like 3 gens in the first chase.

Implying that camping and tunneling are toxic :^)

I play on ps4 too!
Tunneling and camping is just part of the killer's play. If you get floored immediately after touching the ground again, your teammate screwed up for taking you out with the killer nearby. If you get tunneled then the killer is just desperate for a quick kill and it is what it is.

Especially after the recent rank reset I've been seeing farrrr more camping killers on ps4 so I'm just waiting to see if it calms down since this is my first rank reset. Or maybe its just common on lower ranks, I was boosted too high from the bp farming so the rank reset dropped me back down close to where I really was skillwise and now I can't rank up or down because of tunneling and camping and lag switching, and laggy killers taking advantage of people with their lagdom, and a bit of bad luck or bad play on my end as well.

Dear pig players on ps4, I am always the first one found in your scary games. Please stop camping and tunneling me with a mask on, I will massage your ears and brush your hair if you tbag hi at me and we can be best buddies

When I see it or it happens to me I always think of Mickey from Rocky

Broosmeister said:

Raccoon said:

Ahahahhahahhaha

"Toxic Camping"

Is it an exploit or abusive end game chat?

If not, it's not "toxic."

You're confusing toxicity with bannable offenses buddy.

@Broosmeister said:
lasombra1979 said:

As long as the rules of the game are not being broken, nor are you cheating, you are not responsible for the fun of your opponent, whether it be killer or survivor. These made up rules are getting over the top. Flashlights are annoying, not toxic. DS is annoying, not toxic. Camping is annoying, not toxic. Tunneling is not toxic. Looping is not toxic. Instaheals are not toxic. They are all legal parts of the game that your opponent can use whenever he feels it is best (not you). Stop putting your made up rules on others. They are allowed to play the game as they see fit within the confines of the rules of the game. Just because you do not like something, does not make it toxic.

Like i said, you are not obligated to do things like that. They are not rules, they are basic kindness. Not even kindness, just not being obnoxious ( i'm not responsible for anyones fun ) if everyone would think like that then this game would have 0 players, you would face 4 DS every single match. See it as your responsibility to keep this game alive for yourself so you can keep playing, only way to do that, is to keep it fun for everyone. Toxic killers and survivors depend on the people who play this game normally and have some fun, if those people weren't there, this game would not be alive anymore and the toxic people would need to wait hours & hours for a lobby, just to be lobbydodged. And killers would face D/C's every match after camping every guy he catches. But hey, at least you're not responsible for anyones fun right?

First you were defining what is toxic, now you are defining what is fun for every one.

I do not know what makes this game fun for you, so why should it be my responsibility to make it fun for you? I know some people enjoy jump scare killers, so is that how I should play every game? Wait, some people want to play against ultra competitive killers, is that how I should play? Some people find being hit not fun, so I can no long try to down a survivor? Please tell me whose idea of fun I should put into my killer style, since its now my responsibility to make sure every survivor has fun.

@Broosmeister said:
lasombra1979 said:

First you were defining what is toxic, now you are defining what is fun for every one.

I do not know what makes this game fun for you, so why should it be my responsibility to make it fun for you? I know some people enjoy jump scare killers, so is that how I should play every game? Wait, some people want to play against ultra competitive killers, is that how I should play? Some people find being hit not fun, so I can no long try to down a survivor? Please tell me whose idea of fun I should put into my killer style, since its now my responsibility to make sure every survivor has fun.

Those are very specific types of fun & unfun. Nobody, and i mean nobody in this world likes being camped from hook 1 and getting downed immediately after and hooked again. Everytime, no exeptions, and little gens done. 

It's simple to not know what type of play an individual would think is fun or not. But that's no excuse. Because it's also simple to know what is simply unfun for everyone. Not only the survivor on the hook has no fun, the other 3 survivors do 5 gens and leave with no bp, maybe they don't even pip. How can winning be so unfun? Nobody thinks that's fun, so it's not about what people would prefer to play against, it's about basic knowledge about something that's obviously not fun for anyone. Probably killer included, i don't think camping is fun. Do you honestly think that walking around on 5% of the map, constantly looking at a hook is fun? No, that's why it's considered toxic. Because ruining someone elses fun is why you do it and then hide your pathetic sadness behind a : "yes, let me bathe in your salt yummy yummy. Ez kill" when people critisise you for it.

I'm talking about unneeded camping, which for me, and a lot of other people, is considered toxic.

"Unneeded camping at hook 1" is toxic? How does the killer figure out that it is unneeded at the beginning of the game? How can the other three survivors guarantee the killer does not depip? By running to them and getting hooked willingly? Working with the killer? What are you suggesting?

See my post above concerning "team" play... you are on a hook with a camping killer to let the rest of the TEAM get out... and your response of...

"Not only the survivor on the hook has no fun, the other 3 survivors do 5 gens and leave with no bp, maybe they don't even pip."

Please explain to me how completing generators AND escaping is zero blood points with excaping and not getting hit is not piping?
Here is a Emblem refresher course:

https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Emblems#Survivor_Emblems

Don't lump all killers into "you ruin my fun by camping"... again, it is not the killers responsibility for "you to have fun". If the killer has fun by camping, guess what? You participated in that, but you ALWAYS want it the other way around. Selfish much?

Escaping and not piping? When is it the killers responsibility for you to pip? Do you even play? If you repair gens and escape without even getting hit... you win!

But a camping killer with only one hook and a sac with 3 others popping 5 gens and escaping without even hitting anyone else will downrank... that is all the punishment they need. Seriously. These silly ass arguments are what is toxic about the community, not camping killers.