New Idea For Map Picking

@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
anyone at all?

i know that feeling when none responds to your post sucks a lot doesn't it i feel for you
i do agree though im sick of only playing on the same map for 5 games in a row

@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

@Orion said:

@PoppaSquat said:
I've actually had the same thought about the variety of maps, and it always feels like the indoor maps like "The Game" almost never come up, and yet in every play session I'm on coldwind farm

An idea I've had to help with this issue would be to track backward each of the 5 players most recent maps, and weigh the "common missing" maps more heavily, so an example would be

Meg last 5 maps: Map 1, Map 7, Map 9, Map 4, Map 1
Dwight last 5 maps: Map 7, Map 7, Map 1, Map 4, Map 9
Claudette last 5 maps: Map 2, Map 7, Map 1, Map 9, Map 5
Jake's last 5 maps: Map 9, Map 7, Map 1, Map 4, Map 5

Trappers last 5 maps: Map 9, Map 8, Map 1, Map 9, Map 6

Since no player has recent been on map 3,4, or any map number above 10, it will weigh those maps more heavily, and since every player has been to Map 1 recently, it will have almost no weight.

Since Map 7 for one player has been played twice or more in the last 5 matches, it should also be weighed less heavily, as 3/5 times of playing on the same map would be boring, but this system would allow the best variety for each player in the match, and help avoid long streaks for any individual player (not counting
map offerings of course).

A couple problems off the top of my head:
This would require a fairly complex algorithm that took into account every map in existence (and thus would only grow in size with each new map), as well as a way to save this information on their servers.
It'd incentivize DCing on "bad maps" (i.e.: maps you suck in), leading to the Survivors having more power over which maps the Killers play on (there's four of them, after all, and to take that into account would only make the algorithm even more complex) without even having to use an offering.

As the orangutan put it, sounds good, doesn't work.

it may be hard but its the fix we need to not go to coldwind every time its kinda getting old all i see is corn. dcing has nothing to do with this because dcing is a whole other matter to deal with separately

That can be fixed in a much simpler way, which is by randomizing realms before maps. However, the core issue is that humans don't understand probability, and that's a little out of the realm of possibility for even the best software developer.

@FoggyDownpour said:
This is pretty much what I was going to say. Having different regions be drawn first is great, but only if there is a pretty even spread of sub maps within each region. As it stands currently, here is the region/sub-region break down:
[1] Yamaoka Estate - Family Residence
[1] Gideon Meat Plant - The Game
[1] Springwood - Badham Preschool
[2] Backwater Swamp - Grim Pantry, The Pale Rose
[1] Lery's Memorial Institute - Treatment Theatre
[1] Red Forest - Mother's Dwelling
[1] Haddonfield - Lampkin Lane
[2] Crotus Prenn Asylum - Disturbed Ward, Father Campbell's Church
[5] Autohaven Wreckers - Wretched Shop, Wrecker's Yard, Azarov's Resting Place, Blood Lodge, Gas Heaven
[5] Coldwind Farm - Rotten Fields, Rancid Abattoir, The Thompson House, Fractured Cowshed, Torment Creek
[5] Macmillan Estate - Groaning Storehouse, Shelter Woods, Suffocation Pit, Coal Tower, Ironworks of Misery

If this was re-introduced, it would mean that we would see Lampkin Lane far more often than Coal Tower. There are already some maps that I feel like we see far more often than others, I would hate to have many maps even scarcer than they already are. A 9% chance of going to Lampkin vs a 1.8% chance of ever seeing Gas Heaven. That sounds awful. Yes, some of your hated maps would have a smaller chance, but so would some of your favorites

Thus proving that there is no perfect solution, because people will always complain.

@wisdom said:
What exactly is wrong with just using offerings? 

they're talking about base chance, not map offerings. The problem I see is that people are consecutively getting the same map and they are finding it boring to play. If there was more of a chance to get other maps then people may be more inclined to continue playing.

@lionsou said:

@wisdom said:
What exactly is wrong with just using offerings? 

they're talking about base chance, not map offerings. The problem I see is that people are consecutively getting the same map and they are finding it boring to play. If there was more of a chance to get other maps then people may be more inclined to continue playing.

There could literally be a billion maps, and some people would still be getting the same maps several times in a row, because that's how probability works.

@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

@Orion said:

@lionsou said:

@wisdom said:
What exactly is wrong with just using offerings? 

they're talking about base chance, not map offerings. The problem I see is that people are consecutively getting the same map and they are finding it boring to play. If there was more of a chance to get other maps then people may be more inclined to continue playing.

There could literally be a billion maps, and some people would still be getting the same maps several times in a row, because that's how probability works.

when there is 5 maps for the 3 original ones and all the others have less than 5 five and i dont get those but get the one with the majority more then there is a problem

No, that's just probability.

@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

@Orion said:

@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

@Orion said:

@lionsou said:

@wisdom said:
What exactly is wrong with just using offerings? 

they're talking about base chance, not map offerings. The problem I see is that people are consecutively getting the same map and they are finding it boring to play. If there was more of a chance to get other maps then people may be more inclined to continue playing.

There could literally be a billion maps, and some people would still be getting the same maps several times in a row, because that's how probability works.

when there is 5 maps for the 3 original ones and all the others have less than 5 five and i dont get those but get the one with the majority more then there is a problem

No, that's just probability.

not when the numbers are there

You said you get the realms with more maps more often than the ones with fewer maps. That's probability.

@TheLegendDyl4n1 @Orion I know where your getting at. since there are 25 maps in total, you want it to where the maps are equally chosen rather than probability.

I was suggesting that out of the 11 realms, they are all given a 1 in 11 chance of being picked. Then a sub routine to choose a sub-realm (if any) e.g. Rotten fields. Making all maps chosen equally rather than being bias towards the original maps because they have 5 maps out of the 25 total (1 in 5 chance)