Why is BHVR afraid of making strong perks. (Nerfing on/before release or leaving them weak)

Sad how they keep doing this

No wonder people constantly suck up to the meta

They also don’t understand the problems with certain perks and/or how to change them.

For example, they buffed boil over but made it absolutely broken, and buffed buckle up and furtive chase in a way that kept them terrible. I won’t lose my stacks on furtive chase for killing the obsession anymore? Cool, now instead of being useless half the game and deactivating, it can just be equally useless all game.

That is true.

I mean if anything CA and technician could be the same perk and people still wouldn’t use it. But let’s face it that’s never gonna happen anyways.

Meh I think 10s was a bit much. But 7 is not enough.

Unfortunately the survivor meta is full of perks which are either broken, or are necessary to deal with certain killers and playstyles (BT and DS). So a perk that would shake up the meta would very likely also be broken, which COH was and still is.

Well, this goes back to BHVR being extremely slow at updating.

I wouldn't be so upset about the lackluster Ghostface changes if it meant he'd be buffed soon.

Adjusting 1.5 Killers per patch and changing 5 perks per patch was great in 2018 when I started playing, but the game is WAY too big now.

Perks are already too strong, if anything they should tone down all the meta perks.

I think I'm gonna make a more indepth thread on this topic at some point as I've got a lot to say on the matter of perk balance and the like.

Let's take Boil Over as Example #1:

It was a useless waste of a perk for many years, they finally decide to buff it and give it a secondary effect so overwhelmingly strong that not only did it have to be nerfed, not only did it cause RPD and Eyrie of Crows to be edited but It's also being nerfed again.

Now I want to raise the question, why did BHVR make Boil Over such a strong perk without taking into consideration how much it would be (and was) abused? Was it simply the case that they came up with the idea, made it work and just figured if it was too much they could just scale it down?

Personally I like that they were willing to take a completely uninteresting perk like boil over and make it actually do something, the problem is that the perk was:

A) Easily abuseable due to maps, other perk combos and coordination

B) Perks that cause the killer trouble with hooking are generally kind of unhealthy because they cause situations where the killer physically cannot hook you and has to bleed you out. DS doesn't count as one of these perks, as it's on a timer and it's conditional - not always active

Now let's take Buckle Up as Example #2:

It's a useless waste of a perk (As part of a money only DLC I might add) that has two effects that both do nothing. What did BHVR do to rectify it? Added 4 seconds to an effect that barely goes off. Disappointing.

I can only speak for myself in saying that, I wish BHVR would just take all of the garbage perks on both sides and re-do them from scratch.

(mostly applies to survivor perks though ngl, their good perks are so good it feels like there's no point using anything else, killer at least has some variety)

I think it's perfectly fine in the coming midchapter

I'm more so wondering what their logic is when it comes to changes like this. Even in the PTB I think we (as a community) made it quite clear Boil Over was going to cause so many problems but it hit live anyway

But then you get stuff like Buckle Up which was useless and is still useless. Makes me sad

The only possible explanations I can think of as to why some things do/don't get changes might simply be because of a 'wait and see' attitude, QA testers or maybe BHVR isn't aware how strong/weak something really is

I'm not sure, but you're right the logic behind changes seems a bit random sometimes - Parental Guidance is a good perk but the main way to get use out of it is pallet stuns and most good killers don't let themselves get stunned. Usually.