Stop frigging dodging lobbies
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Uhm... are you sure you understand how lobbies work?MuteNewt said:Dont worry they wont be able to dodge once the servers arrive in the Summer. Then they wiill have to ''suck it up'' who they face.
They'll still dodge. You probably don't have to search a new lobby, but you will have to wait until a new killer joins.1 -
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Mhm if so many killers chicken out, maybe that's because they don't feel powerful enough?You can just play killer on your own, ez fix
Why even queue up if you're going to leave because "you don't feel powerful" enough.
Why not? Its not like you are going to leave every lobby
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You don't have to make everything bold, I can understand written text -_-.Nickenzie said:
@popolespopoles said:
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.
It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.
If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Anyways, as long as they have bought this game, it's not up to me or anyone else to tell them whether or not they should dodge which lobby.
I can't say it isn't annoying, because it really is, but when someone doesn't feel like going against some of those scenarios, they are free to dodge.
Have a nice day/night.0 -
I do love SWF.
Specially Ochido wannabbe ones.
Tasteful.
Some are easy, others are hard.
But i want to be better at killer so im aways IN.
The problem is most SWF like to bully the killer.
So don't get mad if some dodge your SWF they may had bad experiences in the past.0 -
So, pretty much every dodged lobby is based on an assumption, okay then... lol1
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@Gorgonia said:
So, pretty much every dodged lobby is based on an assumption, okay then... lolPeople have their own reasons for dodging a lobby. It isn't like it wastes much time, especially if you have a survivor leave - another will instantly take their place. In my 120+ hours of playing, I'd say one out of every 10 lobbies I enter as survivor is disconnected by the killer. Alright, guess I'll take another 10 seconds to load in another lobby and get it filled up. As a killer, I'd say every match I have at least one or two survivors back out of the lobby before the match starts - I don't care, I'd rather them back out than cut the game short.
I don't understand why this thread is such a big deal, there really isn't anything to say about this.
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Ehmmm... it’s not like I don’t requeue...I do, that’s why I’m complaining. I was mad yesterday but I understand some of the points stated here. But when you get 10 lobbies that are dodged one after the other it gets frustrating.0
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Lobby dodging is annoying as hell .. Sometimes it happens like 2-3 times in a Row after 5-10 or even 15 minutes wait time on PS4 ... Recently I've given up on playing as survivor on PS4 and switched to killer as I get matches in an instant but I enjoy playing survivor more cause it is more challenging . I also love the idea of cooperating with others to survive , unhooking , Healing , Fixing gens etc..
An easy solution to lobby dodgers would be to remove the ability for killer to see Survivor items in the lobby and make it viewable only in-game . If they choose to DC it's up to them and they'd lose 2 pips and possibly de-rank. It's useless and a time waste if they are not feeling confident enough to play as killer then shouldn't queue up and waste everyone's time.0 -
@Nickenzie said:
popoles said:
Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.@popoles
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Those are all valid reasons to dodge. You know what else is? Dodging because you feel like it. No one has to justify themself to you or anyone else. Killer is a stressful role, so if the killer doesn't want to add even MORE stress by playing a match against 4 people with flashlights or toolboxes, that's their right. You do you boo boo and I'll do me. If you don't wanna get dodged, don't have 4 flashlights/4 toolboxes/obvious SWF usernames, etc. The killer isn't obligated to play against you if they don't want to.
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@Nickenzie said:
popoles said:
Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.@popoles
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
That reasons are not stupid IMO, excepting the P3 claudettes/legacy survivors and the key, I think the other dodge reasons you mentioned are pretty legitimate.
- 2 flashlight or more almost assure a toxic squad bulling the killer in the pallets or when you carry one of their mates. Yes, I know it isn't against the game rules, but it's pretty unfun and frustrating for the killers.
- 3+ toolboxes mean a potential genrush, specially if you play against a SWF. When I get genrushed I have the feeling of my time being wasted for the survivors sake, sorry but no. I sometimes finish that kind of games with one or two hooks and no kills, if the survivors have good perks sometimes I even only hit them a few times and the game is end.
- 3+ medkits is the less annoying of the combinations mentioned, anyway, if the survivors are a bit good and you lose them they are healed very quickly, even if you have sloopy butcher.
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So just to clarify, a bloo bloo bloo?
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nah
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Again, you assume everyone plays SWF and brings toolboxes or flashlights into the game, yet you are wrong.scorpio said:@Nickenzie said:
popoles said:
Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.@popoles
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Those are all valid reasons to dodge. You know what else is? Dodging because you feel like it. No one has to justify themself to you or anyone else. Killer is a stressful role, so if the killer doesn't want to add even MORE stress by playing a match against 4 people with flashlights or toolboxes, that's their right. You do you boo boo and I'll do me. If you don't wanna get dodged, don't have 4 flashlights/4 toolboxes/obvious SWF usernames, etc. The killer isn't obligated to play against you if they don't want to.
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@Gorgonia said:
Ehmmm... it’s not like I don’t requeue...I do, that’s why I’m complaining. I was mad yesterday but I understand some of the points stated here. But when you get 10 lobbies that are dodged one after the other it gets frustrating.Try to work out why you are getting dodged, and avoid that.
Just a tip
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I make things bold to show things that are really important. It's a great way to make your comments feel more well written and it's great to get others attention. I don't make things bold for any other reason besides that.popoles said:
You don't have to make everything bold, I can understand written text -_-.Nickenzie said:
@popolespopoles said:
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.
It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.
If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Anyways, as long as they have bought this game, it's not up to me or anyone else to tell them whether or not they should dodge which lobby.
I can't say it isn't annoying, because it really is, but when someone doesn't feel like going against some of those scenarios, they are free to dodge.
Have a nice day/night.
Now, back on topic, it's still a stupid reason to dodge. It's like playing survivor, seeing that it's a Nurse, and you DC because you don't wanna go against that scenario. Overall, go by the golden rule, would you like to play lobby simulator since killers keep dodging you?0 -
While I understand the reasoning behind dodging, it does get tiresome, esp to solo survivors. It has gotten much worse on PS4. I had 4 straight lobbies where a dodge occurred. I had no items on, using Dwight in his stock cosmetics. Nothing flashy, nothing to scream here I am. In all but one of the lobbies, the rest of the survivors had no items either. So nothing that should have been a red flag. Yet a dodge happened.
Do not get me wrong, I used to dodge some lobbies if I felt it was a SWF team. Now I only dodge if it is a name I know is a much higher rank playing in a SWF to try to bully, which is rare since my memory sucks. I try to play in all lobbies and make the best of whatever is thrown at me. If I realize you are a SWF and possibly a bully squad, I switch things up to make it fun for me, like using the Clown and bottle bomb people all game. This does not work for all people, as I stopped playing a serious/competitive game long ago. Just remember, not all SWFs are bully squads. Some times a lobby full of flashlights are actually solos. If necessary, bring in Franklin and swing away.
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As I was reading this I got dodged, again. Now I can but laugh... hehlasombra1979 said:While I understand the reasoning behind dodging, it does get tiresome, esp to solo survivors. It has gotten much worse on PS4. I had 4 straight lobbies where a dodge occurred. I had no items on, using Dwight in his stock cosmetics. Nothing flashy, nothing to scream here I am. In all but one of the lobbies, the rest of the survivors had no items either. So nothing that should have been a red flag. Yet a dodge happened.
Do not get me wrong, I used to dodge some lobbies if I felt it was a SWF team. Now I only dodge if it is a name I know is a much higher rank playing in a SWF to try to bully, which is rare since my memory sucks. I try to play in all lobbies and make the best of whatever is thrown at me. If I realize you are a SWF and possibly a bully squad, I switch things up to make it fun for me, like using the Clown and bottle bomb people all game. This does not work for all people, as I stopped playing a serious/competitive game long ago. Just remember, not all SWFs are bully squads. Some times a lobby full of flashlights are actually solos. If necessary, bring in Franklin and swing away.
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@Gorgonia said:
lasombra1979 said:While I understand the reasoning behind dodging, it does get tiresome, esp to solo survivors. It has gotten much worse on PS4. I had 4 straight lobbies where a dodge occurred. I had no items on, using Dwight in his stock cosmetics. Nothing flashy, nothing to scream here I am. In all but one of the lobbies, the rest of the survivors had no items either. So nothing that should have been a red flag. Yet a dodge happened.
Do not get me wrong, I used to dodge some lobbies if I felt it was a SWF team. Now I only dodge if it is a name I know is a much higher rank playing in a SWF to try to bully, which is rare since my memory sucks. I try to play in all lobbies and make the best of whatever is thrown at me. If I realize you are a SWF and possibly a bully squad, I switch things up to make it fun for me, like using the Clown and bottle bomb people all game. This does not work for all people, as I stopped playing a serious/competitive game long ago. Just remember, not all SWFs are bully squads. Some times a lobby full of flashlights are actually solos. If necessary, bring in Franklin and swing away.
As I was reading this I got dodged, again. Now I can but laugh... heh
I swear it wasnt me. I am still at work. I cant dodge lobbies right now.
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There are no reasons why I could be dodged. Red jacket Nea without any sweaty perk but UE. Got no items. Still dodgedMaster said:@Gorgonia said:
Ehmmm... it’s not like I don’t requeue...I do, that’s why I’m complaining. I was mad yesterday but I understand some of the points stated here. But when you get 10 lobbies that are dodged one after the other it gets frustrating.Try to work out why you are getting dodged, and avoid that.
Just a tip
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You bettalasombra1979 said:@Gorgonia said:
lasombra1979 said:While I understand the reasoning behind dodging, it does get tiresome, esp to solo survivors. It has gotten much worse on PS4. I had 4 straight lobbies where a dodge occurred. I had no items on, using Dwight in his stock cosmetics. Nothing flashy, nothing to scream here I am. In all but one of the lobbies, the rest of the survivors had no items either. So nothing that should have been a red flag. Yet a dodge happened.
Do not get me wrong, I used to dodge some lobbies if I felt it was a SWF team. Now I only dodge if it is a name I know is a much higher rank playing in a SWF to try to bully, which is rare since my memory sucks. I try to play in all lobbies and make the best of whatever is thrown at me. If I realize you are a SWF and possibly a bully squad, I switch things up to make it fun for me, like using the Clown and bottle bomb people all game. This does not work for all people, as I stopped playing a serious/competitive game long ago. Just remember, not all SWFs are bully squads. Some times a lobby full of flashlights are actually solos. If necessary, bring in Franklin and swing away.
As I was reading this I got dodged, again. Now I can but laugh... heh
I swear it wasnt me. I am still at work. I cant dodge lobbies right now.
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Unpopular opinion, not every SWF is tryhard swat team. Most SWF just wanna chill out with their friends and that's basically it. Another unpopular opinion, survivor having items =/= You losing. Yes, I faced survivors with some items and it really wasn't that bad to be honest. Once time, I had to try just a little harder than normal when they all had toolboxes but it was still a fun game. Last unpopular opinion, the killer isn't defenseless when they stumble into one of these tryhard groups. Let's say you 100% know it's a tryhard SWF then, you, the killer, have offerings, add-ons, and perks to combat them. Use them. If they wanna go tryhard, repay the favor by using a ebony mori and go tryhard back.scorpio said:@Nickenzie said:
popoles said:
Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.@popoles
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Those are all valid reasons to dodge. You know what else is? Dodging because you feel like it. No one has to justify themself to you or anyone else. Killer is a stressful role, so if the killer doesn't want to add even MORE stress by playing a match against 4 people with flashlights or toolboxes, that's their right. You do you boo boo and I'll do me. If you don't wanna get dodged, don't have 4 flashlights/4 toolboxes/obvious SWF usernames, etc. The killer isn't obligated to play against you if they don't want to.
"Those are all valid reasons to dodge. You know what else is? Dodging because you feel like it."
How would you like it if every killer dodged you? Especially when it takes forever to find a game as a survivor, you probably wouldn't. Overall, follow the golden rule, treat others how you'd like to be treated.2 -
@lasombra1979 said:
While I understand the reasoning behind dodging, it does get tiresome, esp to solo survivors. It has gotten much worse on PS4. I had 4 straight lobbies where a dodge occurred. I had no items on, using Dwight in his stock cosmetics. Nothing flashy, nothing to scream here I am. In all but one of the lobbies, the rest of the survivors had no items either. So nothing that should have been a red flag. Yet a dodge happened.Do not get me wrong, I used to dodge some lobbies if I felt it was a SWF team. Now I only dodge if it is a name I know is a much higher rank playing in a SWF to try to bully, which is rare since my memory sucks. I try to play in all lobbies and make the best of whatever is thrown at me. If I realize you are a SWF and possibly a bully squad, I switch things up to make it fun for me, like using the Clown and bottle bomb people all game. This does not work for all people, as I stopped playing a serious/competitive game long ago. Just remember, not all SWFs are bully squads. Some times a lobby full of flashlights are actually solos. If necessary, bring in Franklin and swing away.
Default dwight is a bit of a red flag, though, from what I gathered. Not as big as bald dwight. At least from what I read. Usually indicates a last second switcher.
Honestly, if you want to fly under the radar, customize characters some, and try not to be an immersed Claudette, Bald Dwight, or super neon outside of maybe Nea.
But I'm no expert on cosmetics dodging. I have accumulated data, though.
I get that not all SWFs are bad. Problem is I don't want to go into a trial against SWFs with that mentality and be wrong 999,999.999999999999 out of a million.
SWFs I meet are looking to powerlevel, and/or stomp with almost nothing else.
None really want to play close to how the game was intended (sans communication) and take a chance they might not win.0 -
Survivors DC against my nurse anyway.Nickenzie said:
I make things bold to show things that are really important. It's a great way to make your comments feel more well written and it's great to get others attention. I don't make things bold for any other reason besides that.popoles said:
You don't have to make everything bold, I can understand written text -_-.Nickenzie said:
@popolespopoles said:
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.
It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.
If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Anyways, as long as they have bought this game, it's not up to me or anyone else to tell them whether or not they should dodge which lobby.
I can't say it isn't annoying, because it really is, but when someone doesn't feel like going against some of those scenarios, they are free to dodge.
Have a nice day/night.
Now, back on topic, it's still a stupid reason to dodge. It's like playing survivor, seeing that it's a Nurse, and you DC because you don't wanna go against that scenario. Overall, go by the golden rule, would you like to play lobby simulator since killers keep dodging you?
And my opinion still stands. If someone feels like not going against some players, they can leave the lobby. Fun is subjective and if they want to play Legion just for fun and see 4 toolboxes, they are free to leave.3 -
No, it's not the same, not by a long.Nickenzie said:popoles said:
You don't have to make everything bold, I can understand written text -_-.Nickenzie said:
@popolespopoles said:
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.
It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.
If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Anyways, as long as they have bought this game, it's not up to me or anyone else to tell them whether or not they should dodge which lobby.
I can't say it isn't annoying, because it really is, but when someone doesn't feel like going against some of those scenarios, they are free to dodge.
Have a nice day/night.
Now, back on topic, it's still a stupid reason to dodge. It's like playing survivor, seeing that it's a Nurse, and you DC because you don't wanna go against that scenario. Overall, go by the golden rule, would you like to play lobby simulator since killers keep dodging you?
If a survivor DC because a nurse he ruins a game, if a killer dodge, the game is not started yet.2 -
If killers are going to lobby dodge my medkit or my toolbox (hook daily) or god forbid my bloody face thats fine but everytime i see a mori my applications getting closed. Enjoy your 3 man. Works both ways.0
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Lobby dodging is always the result of bad experiences in the past.
"You reap what you sow" - that's exactly what it is if you think further than just that specific lobby.
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There is one reason I dodge a lobby: Keys.
But not always, it depends on my mood. And with mood I mean: "Do I want to play nurse now?"
Anything else Idc, bring up 4 toolboxes and I bring up an Ebony. I got enough of them0 -
The reason a lot of people dodge is because the game has gotten to a point where depending what you see in a survivor's hand you can kind of guess what will likely do. Like if you see 4 survivors spawn in with toolboxes you can take a reasonable guess you're about to get genrush extreme or sabo squad. Some days you want the extra work, some days you don't. People will dodge for ping, and personally if I see four Bills I dodge. I already know what they want to do. BT boyband can really get on my nerves so I pass that headache to someone else.
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Lol A survivor whining about lobby dodging is hilarious when you don't lose anything and can literally join a new lobby in seconds where as the killer has to wait minutes.
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Have you been playing the game lately at all?AgentTexes said:Lol A survivor whining about lobby dodging is hilarious when you don't lose anything and can literally join a new lobby in seconds where as the killer has to wait minutes.
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@HawkAyeTheNoo said:
If killers are going to lobby dodge my medkit or my toolbox (hook daily) or god forbid my bloody face thats fine but everytime i see a mori my applications getting closed. Enjoy your 3 man. Works both ways.I know, your mates will thank you
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Sadly Killers are complaining that Survivors feel entitled to live, but they feel entitled to decide who they want to go against. If there is no Lobby with 4 random People without any items, no need to play.
Also, Killers claiming that playing Killer needs Skill - and choose the easiest Lobbies.The amount of Lobby dodging after the Rank Reset is insane. Yesterday I got dodged 8 times in a row, maybe because of my (brown) Toolbox, I really dont know.
There needs to be some sort of queue which punishes dodging, for both sides. Because it is also not fun to have Survivors leave a Lobby, once 4 people are in that Lobby, because it simply can snowball from there on... 1 Person left, second Person left, third person left. Great, alone in the Lobby. Then a 2 Man SFW joins and the Killer chickens out.
Basically, it would be enough if Players who dodge a Lobby, have to wait longer for the next Lobby. So 1 Lobby dodged = 1 minute waiting for the next Lobby to join. If dodged again, 2 minutes.. And so on.But well, since Killers think they are entitled to decide if they want to have easy games, it will probably not change anything.
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I never look at items when I dodge, just if I think they're SWF players. I get there are SWF groups that aren't asshats, but I don't encounter them too often. They make the game not fun for me, so I don't waste my time. If I get into a game and its clear they're SWF, I just leave. No addons or offerings I have are worth that much time.
I can promise though, I will never dodge a game if they give me a "Vs Solo players" option. That'd be great.
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Also if you see survivors with certain items, and you want to play a killer who is weak to those items or don't have the perks to counter (Flashlights with Hag/Wraith) or toolboxes and no perks to battle the genrush then you would dodge.
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@Gorgonia said:
scorpio said:@Nickenzie said:
popoles said:
Nickenzie said: I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same. And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.
@popoles
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.
It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion: 2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.
If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength! Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Those are all valid reasons to dodge. You know what else is? Dodging because you feel like it. No one has to justify themself to you or anyone else. Killer is a stressful role, so if the killer doesn't want to add even MORE stress by playing a match against 4 people with flashlights or toolboxes, that's their right. You do you boo boo and I'll do me. If you don't wanna get dodged, don't have 4 flashlights/4 toolboxes/obvious SWF usernames, etc. The killer isn't obligated to play against you if they don't want to.
Again, you assume everyone plays SWF and brings toolboxes or flashlights into the game, yet you are wrong.
yea I'm solo player and I use toolboxes and flashlights because I have them on said character.and I feel like some killer do think I'm part of swf group when I'm not but it just a feel think way they act in the match or that all killer are crazy/nuts.
funny thing about flashlights I use it but I suck with it never help me.
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@Master said:
@Gorgonia said:
Ehmmm... it’s not like I don’t requeue...I do, that’s why I’m complaining. I was mad yesterday but I understand some of the points stated here. But when you get 10 lobbies that are dodged one after the other it gets frustrating.Try to work out why you are getting dodged, and avoid that.
Just a tip
but people dodge because of cosmetics I mean I understnd the bloody cosmetics but I feel like they dodge because of other cosmetics.so we can put cosmetics on we want because some swf ruined it?
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I play survivor to have a fun game and to chill out, my intentions (and probably other survivors) are not make the killer have a terrible time. Why are the survivors always the bad guy?Rebel_Raven said:I know it sucks to be dodged, but I'm trying to figure out where it is, or how it is survivors are entitled to make a killer play something they don't find fun in favor of matches they do find fun.
And as a survivor I've probably ran inti my fair share of depipped [BAD WORD] killers that have no chill since I stay in the prime target ranks.
Doesn't matter why they dodge. Bad ping, swf, invisible team of Claudettes, clones, flashlights, they gotta go pee all of a sudden, you do not get to force a killer to play against someone they feel will make them miserable.
Why the [BAD WORD] would they?
What gives you, or your teammates the entitlement to make the killer miserable?
The fact that you can make killers so miserable that they dodge at all should say something about how supposedly strong killers are.
I mean seriously, I get it. It sucks to be dodged. It sucks for SWFs to have to redo their lobby, but maybe consider the fact that enough ######### have burned the killer, and now you are paying for it.
And yeah, I know survivors don't get to pick, but DBD is a horror game. The killer is supposed to be an unknown terror.
If killers were known ahead of time, I can about guarantee survivors would dodge legions, Billy, nurse, spirit, or who ever else is their own personal boogeyman.
#########, I know I hate Doctors, and Wraiths. No chill hyper tracking ass mofos. Would I dodge? I don't know.
And stop suggesting killers bring stuff like Moris. Some of us actually lack those.
I know I have less than 5 moris of any type across all my killers.
I don't have Franklin's demise, I don't have bbq, I don't have lightborn teachable (who does that other than some of the most bored completioninsts? And a full perk to gamble on if some [BAD WORD] wants to blind us at every pallet break? Or finds one in a chest? Trying to figure out what perk a survivor has to run to outright stop a killer tactic.) So that advice is useless.
Not directed at anyone in particular, just ranting to get it out of my system.
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Because the majority are, unfortunately. Especially in SWF.Nickenzie said:
I play survivor to have a fun game and to chill out, my intentions (and probably other survivors) are not make the killer have a terrible time. Why are the survivors always the bad guy?Rebel_Raven said:I know it sucks to be dodged, but I'm trying to figure out where it is, or how it is survivors are entitled to make a killer play something they don't find fun in favor of matches they do find fun.
And as a survivor I've probably ran inti my fair share of depipped [BAD WORD] killers that have no chill since I stay in the prime target ranks.
Doesn't matter why they dodge. Bad ping, swf, invisible team of Claudettes, clones, flashlights, they gotta go pee all of a sudden, you do not get to force a killer to play against someone they feel will make them miserable.
Why the [BAD WORD] would they?
What gives you, or your teammates the entitlement to make the killer miserable?
The fact that you can make killers so miserable that they dodge at all should say something about how supposedly strong killers are.
I mean seriously, I get it. It sucks to be dodged. It sucks for SWFs to have to redo their lobby, but maybe consider the fact that enough ######### have burned the killer, and now you are paying for it.
And yeah, I know survivors don't get to pick, but DBD is a horror game. The killer is supposed to be an unknown terror.
If killers were known ahead of time, I can about guarantee survivors would dodge legions, Billy, nurse, spirit, or who ever else is their own personal boogeyman.
#########, I know I hate Doctors, and Wraiths. No chill hyper tracking ass mofos. Would I dodge? I don't know.
And stop suggesting killers bring stuff like Moris. Some of us actually lack those.
I know I have less than 5 moris of any type across all my killers.
I don't have Franklin's demise, I don't have bbq, I don't have lightborn teachable (who does that other than some of the most bored completioninsts? And a full perk to gamble on if some [BAD WORD] wants to blind us at every pallet break? Or finds one in a chest? Trying to figure out what perk a survivor has to run to outright stop a killer tactic.) So that advice is useless.
Not directed at anyone in particular, just ranting to get it out of my system.
I wish more people would chill out when playing instead of just looking to get out as fast as possible.
But a lot of killers are just as bad. I won't ever say otherwise.
It's harder to spot depipping killers, and there's only 1 killer to 4 survivors.
Killers have to endure the entire match. If they're in with a pain in the ass group of survivors, then they can't bail without repercussions.
Survivors can just get hooked, suicide, and move on. Or genrush the hell out of the killer and move on.
It certainly feels like killers suffer the brunt of being mauled way harder than survivors.
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@Gorgonia said:
NoShinyPony said:@Gorgonia said:
I am fed up.
Honestly, almost every single lobby I got in the past hour was dodged.
Are you playing solo or 4 SWF? Which items do you bring? Are you wearing a stealthy Claudette skin?
A lot of people in this forum are saying that they get dodged super often, while I just get dodged from time to time. I wonder why.
I play solo, yesterday I was playing Nea because I had a daily with her, flashy red clothes, no selfcare, no DS, no toolbox, only a yellow medkit just in case I need to heal myself
Perks are not important for that issue since the killer can't see them in the lobby. Your medkit could have been the reason. Keep in mind that in highranks, a medkit means in 50% of the cases an insta-heal. If other players bring medkits as well, then the killer might decide that's too much.
I usually don't bring items into the game. Maybe you want to try that and see if you don't get dodged that often anymore.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
Basically, it would be enough if Players who dodge a Lobby, have to wait longer for the next Lobby. So 1 Lobby dodged = 1 minute waiting for the next Lobby to join. If dodged again, 2 minutes.. And so on.That suggestion has been made super often. Bottom line: It wouldn't work, it would only increase waiting times for survivors even more.
@Aven_Fallen said:
since Killers think they are entitled to decide if they want to have easy gamesHow are survivors not wanting an easy game if they are bringing items with them instead of playing without?
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@Gorgonia said:
AgentTexes said:Lol A survivor whining about lobby dodging is hilarious when you don't lose anything and can literally join a new lobby in seconds where as the killer has to wait minutes.
Have you been playing the game lately at all?
@Gorgonia said:
AgentTexes said:Lol A survivor whining about lobby dodging is hilarious when you don't lose anything and can literally join a new lobby in seconds where as the killer has to wait minutes.
Have you been playing the game lately at all?
@NekoGamerX said:
@Master said:
@Gorgonia said:
Ehmmm... it’s not like I don’t requeue...I do, that’s why I’m complaining. I was mad yesterday but I understand some of the points stated here. But when you get 10 lobbies that are dodged one after the other it gets frustrating.Try to work out why you are getting dodged, and avoid that.
Just a tip
but people dodge because of cosmetics I mean I understnd the bloody cosmetics but I feel like they dodge because of other cosmetics.so we can put cosmetics on we want because some swf ruined it?
Well, the less reason you give them to dodge, the faster you will get a game.
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I can only say that entering a lobby with 3 toolboxes and a flashlight is a little scary,and i am supposed to be the "scary dude that kills people" lol!
But anyway, i dodge when there is someone with some Somalia connection and they ready up, and i am there looking at the screen like "...seriously?
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I like that keep going thatNickenzie said:
I make things bold to show things that are really important. It's a great way to make your comments feel more well written and it's great to get others attention. I don't make things bold for any other reason besides that.popoles said:
You don't have to make everything bold, I can understand written text -_-.Nickenzie said:
@popolespopoles said:
And who are you to tell them what they should and should not do?Nickenzie said:I'll only dodge if a real life event comes up (since I won't be able to finish the game that I've started) and high ping lobbies (I really hate P2P connection). I won't dodge for any other reason, others should do the same.
I also don't dodge but I don't feel the need to force people to play the way I want.
Because there is no other reason to dodge a lobby and I never told people "how to play". I only said that you should only dodge in these scenarios (and that's why I said, "Others should do the same") because these are legitimate reasons to dodge while others just dodge for the stupidest reasons.
It's ridiculous with how many people dodge for the most stupidest reasons in my opinion:
2 Flashlights? Dodge.
3+ Toolboxes and afraid of BNP? Dodge.
3+ Med-Kits and afraid of Instaheal? Dodge.
3+ P3 Claudettes or Legacy survivors? Dodge.
Someone has a key? Crap! Dodge.
If you see this, instead of dodging (not staying you are dodging, just a PSA for everyone) then use YOUR items. Bring in your add-ons or offerings to balance things out, they are there for a reason, namely, strength!
Lastly, why is dodging a problem?
You may not think dodging is a problem but if you waited 10 minutes to get a game just to get sent back to the lobby and wait another 10 minutes. That's 20 minutes just to find a game, that's double than you normally had to wait. Usually dodging isn't a problem for fast game times but it's devastating for the people who have long wait times.
Anyways, as long as they have bought this game, it's not up to me or anyone else to tell them whether or not they should dodge which lobby.
I can't say it isn't annoying, because it really is, but when someone doesn't feel like going against some of those scenarios, they are free to dodge.
Have a nice day/night.
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@NoShinyPony said:
@Aven_Fallen said:
Basically, it would be enough if Players who dodge a Lobby, have to wait longer for the next Lobby. So 1 Lobby dodged = 1 minute waiting for the next Lobby to join. If dodged again, 2 minutes.. And so on.That suggestion has been made super often. Bottom line: It wouldn't work, it would only increase waiting times for survivors even more.
@Aven_Fallen said:
since Killers think they are entitled to decide if they want to have easy gamesHow are survivors not wanting an easy game if they are bringing items with them instead of playing without?
Good that Killers cannot use Add-Ons. Which are the equivalent to items.
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I read this forum like dating advice in cosmo.
How to attract (and keep!) a killer!
DO
Come into the lobby empty handed. It's a bit old fashioned but many killers will insist on providing everything you need for the evening. Definitely no flash lights or tool boxes!
Take your time admiring your killer's gen and totem placements before you touch them! If they run any hex perks you might want to ask permission first.
DON'T
Wear bloody clothes! Try to look nice for your killer, but don't show too much skin or wear anything too bright - those clothes are for trolls and trollops!
Decisive strike on the first date.
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I have played killer on ps3 for over a year. Rank one. Never dodged a lobby.
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I wonder how many of the people complaining about the annoyance of lobby dodging are the kinds that retort to saltiness with "it's only a game lol". Funny how that only applies in certain circumstances.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
@NoShinyPony said:
@Aven_Fallen said:
Basically, it would be enough if Players who dodge a Lobby, have to wait longer for the next Lobby. So 1 Lobby dodged = 1 minute waiting for the next Lobby to join. If dodged again, 2 minutes.. And so on.That suggestion has been made super often. Bottom line: It wouldn't work, it would only increase waiting times for survivors even more.
@Aven_Fallen said:
since Killers think they are entitled to decide if they want to have easy gamesHow are survivors not wanting an easy game if they are bringing items with them instead of playing without?
Good that Killers cannot use Add-Ons. Which are the equivalent to items.
Most killers need their add-ons since without them, their power is too weak. You can't compare it to medkits & toolboxes which are not necessary at all.
I'd always recommend that players play both killer and surv on highrank for a while so that they can get a feeling for what is how strong in this game.
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@NoShinyPony said:
@Aven_Fallen said:
@NoShinyPony said:
@Aven_Fallen said:
Basically, it would be enough if Players who dodge a Lobby, have to wait longer for the next Lobby. So 1 Lobby dodged = 1 minute waiting for the next Lobby to join. If dodged again, 2 minutes.. And so on.That suggestion has been made super often. Bottom line: It wouldn't work, it would only increase waiting times for survivors even more.
@Aven_Fallen said:
since Killers think they are entitled to decide if they want to have easy gamesHow are survivors not wanting an easy game if they are bringing items with them instead of playing without?
Good that Killers cannot use Add-Ons. Which are the equivalent to items.
Most killers need their add-ons since without them, their power is too weak. You can't compare it to medkits & toolboxes which are not necessary at all.
I'd always recommend that players play both killer and surv on highrank for a while so that they can get a feeling for what is how strong in this game.
Agree on the first point, but only a bit. For some Killers that might be true (e.g. Trapper), but the Killers played on High Ranks usually are good enough to play without Add-Ons. Something like Trapper, Wraith or Doctor is seen quite less.
Regarding the second point: I would love to, but sadly my Connection is not that stable. So I can only play Killer for fun, because I honestly do not want to annoy anyone with Lags (which can happen). Maybe will be changed with Dedicated Servers.
But, overall, I think nobody should decide who he wants to face. Otherwise Survivors should get an Option - Playing vs Legion? Nah, want to leave this Lobby. But that sounds stupid, why does it not sound stupid the other way?
And well, regarding SWF... You cannot design a Multiplayer Online Game without expecting that friends would like to play together. And most of the SWFs are not Dickheads.
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