How does everyone feel about Sloppy butcher?

Mhhhm. I'm not a fan of it going away that fast. - If only healing when 100% certain the heal can be completed was the point then just make it reset, like with cleansing totems. Would actually be less frustrating, imho. Which does make me wonder: what is the point? The 0.x percent that heal mid chase? The x percent that 99 their heal? In that case I find an exponential regression much better; yes, it goes down real fast at first - but it doesn't punish stupid things - like e.g. a medkit being that teeny tiny bit short and another survivor healing you up two seconds later. - Or accidentally making a step, breaking the heal. - Or is this act of "balancing" designed not around four standard survivors but around a team having coh x1, self care x2 and med-kits with add-ons x2? And here I thought they wanted to break the healing meta. Not reinforce it.

That being said, sloppy isn't exactly meta or something that happens to you all the time - neither are the situations that make it feel somewhat unfair/extreme particularily frequent. So yes, I do think it's somewhat short sighted/missing the point --- but no, I don't think it's an issue (atm, anyway.)

Still leveling my Twins and running it on them, enjoying using it. Had some good 4ks last night, including multiple at 5 gens

It's not 20% or anywhere near that. It's 25% of 7%, so 8.75%.

I'm not a fan of how it hurts Solidarity and Resurgence, 2 perks that were already underpicked. That's my only complaint with the new status effect, though.

If we're talking specifically on the hemorrhage change then I think it's good. It's niche as interupting heals can be hard with how quickly survivors can heal, but it can be good time waster and keep survivors injured longer.

I really don't like the Haemorrhage buff, I feel that its buff of regressing healing shouldn't be a thing. It feels way too oppressive for the hit and run playstyle or on killers like Twins. So I don't like sloppy butcher right now!

Its far from "oppressive".

With all of the ways survivors can heal quickly having one perk that keeps from from spot healing little by little so they can 99% their heals and then get benefit from Resilience without any risk for the reward is perfectly fine.

Might as well complain about Generators being able to be regressed *at all*.

still not really a fan of using anti heal perks

I would much rather use a mangled add on

I think it’s a better perk now not just because of the hemorrhage but because it penalizes COH a tiny bit more than it used to in terms of how much longer it will take to heal.

If, and only if you have sloppy, coh seems a bit less oppressive. Basically we’re at a point now where sloppy feels worth using again despite coh existing, whereas before it wasn’t worth it.

Its not that great, the effect is nice but it only works if you spread damage a lot and in small maps, other than that its ok, better than before but I dont think it has much room in builds outside spread damage focused builds, which was its niche before the buff anyway.

Typically, survivors will heal from 0 to 100% in one go whenever they have the opportunity, and will rarely heal otherwise. The exception being using up the last few charges of a near depleted medkit.

What sloppy butcher does is reward you for interrupting people who are healing, which is one of the things killers are supposed to do in order to gain bp in the deviousness category, but rarely actually do without nurse's calling/some other aura perk. It also passively nerfs circle of healing a little because if one or more people are healing near a boon and you snuff it out, their progress goes back to 0 and they have to waste more time setting up the boon and healing all over again, or just get healed by a teammate. Usually CoH wastes the killer's time far more than the survivor's, but if you're an m1 killer with sloppy butcher, then stamping out the same boon totem 5 times in one game can actually play into your favour (so long as you can keep people injured).

It pairs well with thanatophobia, so people don't just say "screw it" and do gens without healing, and nurse's calling to see survivor auras when they're healing. And while I've used deathbound a decent amount and can attest that it's not as useless as some think it is, it's true that it doesn't activate when people just heal themselves instead of each other. Maybe franklin's demise is a better choice if you want to get rid of medkits.

Overall though, sloppy butcher isn't particularly remarkable. It's a nice counter to the healing meta for some killers reliant on their m1 but for most killers there's usually a better perk you could be running unless you're running a full anti-healing build - which is surprisingly decent, but inconsistent.

Shadow Step hides auras and scratch marks, the increased bleeding from Sloppy Butcher literally leaves a red line going right to any survivor.