Grinding will kill this game

That is the basic principle yes.

Especially when you think about the fact that shards haven't even been a thing for the first few years and the game didn't die then.

Of course the ever increasing amount of characters and perks become slowly but surely ludicrous to grind for.

And how many characters does DBD have vs league?

I mean i find the grind also ridiculous and know that the whole principle behind the state right now is money.

Take for example rainbow six siege, i don't know how excessive the grind is because I was having enough fun with my late best friend back then that i bought every season pass, but without the season pass each character costs 50k renown (the shards/BP there) and you make it takes you also several days of grinding for one.

Of course every other game but DBD has an "aging price" system where the older the character is the cheaper they become and DBD should maybe have something similar but the lack of it won't kill the game.

What you are talking about is grounded in the reduction in fun on both sides since the implementation of SBMMR. Before that matchmaking was also most often completely random because, when the majority of the community regardless of actual skill made it into red ranks, everyone got matched with everyone else.

With SBMMR this was "improved" but basic balance issue came into the spotlight (as expected by some people like me) because equally skilled killer players and an 4 men swf for example aren't what the game is balanced for.

In light of this, more and more people left the game after the anniversary chapter high.

That hasn't much to do with character grind even if that doesn't help.

Iri Shards: Award shards as part of the free track on the rift. There's so much empty space in there, fill it with shards and BP.

Bloodpoints: Reduce the grind for new players without affecting how much a new chapter will take a vet player to grind out.

How?

Have unlocked perks become available for all characters at tier 1, effectively removing all tier 1 perks from the blodweb and reducing the general perk grind by a third (which equates to tens of millions of bloodpoints if we're looking to max out all characters) However a new character will still take 40 blood webs to unlock those teachables, and 3 bloodwebs minimum per character to upgrade to tier 3. Effectively reducing the 'additional grind' (for players otherwise maxed) by just 2 bloodwebs.

Additionally, this removes the need to fish for perks in the bloodweb, dealing with insane rng. You will have your BBQ available at tier 1 on all killers the moment you unlock it. You'll still need to grind (33% less) if you want it at tier 3, but you'll at least have it at tier 1 in the mean time.

And while i don't condone the methods bhvr uses, i have to say that you compare 26 killer characters and 30(?) Survivor characters, that are basically reskins and can be seen as one after obtaining the 5-6 meta perks, with nearly 150 characters that are mostly unlockelable by the new stupid gacha system with the champion shards and you are not always able to farm a new 6.3k blue essence champ in 2-3 days depending on the the rng on the shards worth.

It took years to unlock all chars in the old ip and is probably not that much faster in the new blue essence system.

DBD is horrible in that regard but please don't make it seem like lol is a cakewalk in comparison when putting effort to mass of characters relation.

Edit: Also lol might be free but damn if riot hasn't dialed their cash grab antics up to eleven with the new 3rd "season grind" with the masterwork chest and -capsules, that needs 125€ worth of unlocks to finish. Plus the ever rotating event passes plus a bundle of new skins every patch together with the usual 8 chromas per skin😑

I mean, the grind for iri shards is pretty brutal. I've had the game for almost 2 years now and I'm still missing 2 original killers. I bought all the original survivors and the rest of the original characters with only shards. Considering I've taken advantage of events where they give bonus shards, the Bubba iri shard refund, and the few times they put killers on iri shard sales, it's really sad how slow the grind can be. It would definitely be nice if they threw in some extra shards in the rift awards, but I get why they make it hard to collect shards. It is a company that "has to make money." Still wish the grind was better.

Personally I think "removing all perk tiers" is a bit too heavy handed, and grinding tiers (as limited an effect as it might be) still serves to provide some sense of progression. Plus some grind is still necessary or there's nothing to play for.

Which is why I prefer simply removing the need to grind out the first tier of every perk. This reduces the grind by 33%, removes frustration of fishing for a perk via the bloodwebs insane rng, and only minimally impacts the continuing grind for players already fully caught up.

I don't know about you, but I'd much rather have tier 1s guaranteed with the rest of the grind reduced by 33%, instead of having the grind reduced by 66% but still be required to grind out dozens of webs to find the one perk I want.

To be fair towards Rito, atleast if you wanna unlock a character you wanna play you don't have to play for a full month but then again I play Wild Rift where you get alot of boosts for blue motes, while the game only has 87 (Soon to be 90) characters compared to LoL's 157, like if I ever get a PC to play LoL on that i'm just gonna get Fiddlesticks and thats it, maybe some other characters in between. Basically what I am saying is compared to DBD, League atleast lets you get a character you like still even if you don't do the weird gacha system in like maybe 2-4 days probably

The point isn't to be able to buy every character for free, it's to get one free inbetween every few paid. They wouldn't make any money if people were able to easily grind the paid content.

I am not so concerned about buying characters, I expect to pay for those in most games. That's fine.

My main issue with the grind is that for new players to have the meta perks available to them, they are going to have to invest a lot of time in addition to any cost of characters. It's just brutal, and exacerbated by the fact that the bloodweb is just loaded with useless trash you have to spend millions of BP on to access the good stuff. The grind is insane.

Remove perk tiers, clean up the bloodweb, increase BP payouts.

Oh, and make prestiging even remotely worth it, plz. That could be a fun feature, but as it is, it's nothing but a box for completionists to tick off a list, but doesn't offer anything inspiring.

I don't really care about paying some bucks every 3 months for 2 new characters, but the BP grind has reached a level were it is not bearable anymore. The amount of perks is just insane, i haven't even begun leveling Yoichi and Onryu because i'm still leveling other characters, it's frustrating. And i play this game for 2.5 years nearly daily. I don't think this system is actually attractive for new players. I understand keeping players engaged with some form of grind and new content is important, but this is just frustrating because it feels like i can never actually reach a point were i'm nearly done.