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Was the grind addressed at all?
I didn’t get to watch the stream today, and I’ve been trying to read summaries of the announced changes. Did they talk about possible changes to the grind (like making it less awful) at all?
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Here you go, this is from the official news post:
This new system is tied to a character’s progression and will reduce the grind significantly. Moving forward, the first three prestige levels will earn the corresponding tier of that chosen character’s perks across every other Killer or Survivor. It’s also worth noting that you will no longer lose any perks, items, and add-ons when levelling up a character’s prestige level.
For Example: If you raise The Trapper to prestige Level 1, all your Killers will receive the first tier of Unnerving Presence, Agitation, and Brutal Strength – they will also gain the ability to find tier 2 of those perks. in the Bloodweb, and subsequently tier 3. That process continues until you reach prestige level 3, when all The Trapper’s perk tiers will be maxed out for every Killer.
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Thanks!
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Yep felt like the whole stream
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If that's their big grind fix it's absolute trash.
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So its around 5 million BP per character to get all their perks at T3 for everyone else.
Where as before it was 1.3 million BP to unlock the perks, and depending on how many perks you don't have unlocked could be another 3-4 million to unlock the perks you want.
How much exactly does this reduce the grind?
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How is it trash? Because, as someone who has all killers maxed out and has to grind to get back those final 3 perks each time a new chapter comes out.. I can just p3 the new killer and it's all done in one go. Easy as that. Same on survivor. New survivor comes out? It already has every perk at level 3 if everyone else is at p3. Then it's only a matter of getting that new one to p3 for the new perks to appear on literally everyone else.
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Because then I need to prestige in order for it to save any grind. If this is only a piece of a larger plan then it's an okay start. If this was it for their big fix it's garbage.
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Yes but you no longer lose your inventory when you prestige. So there's no downside to it whatsoever
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It does even take long to get 1 character to p1
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Yep, prestige helps (a lot) instead of hurting you now.
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Yeah, getting someone to p3 can be easily done in a day or two, so if you commit enough, you'll have every character on one side or the other done within a month. Two for both sides. Then it's just a matter of getting the generic perks on every character, then afterwards, every 3 months, just leveling the new character to p3 and getting the generic perks to level 3, and it's all done. Way less grind than the way it is right now, both for "veterans" or for new players.
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You don’t need to P3 anyone, just getting someone to P1 gives their perks to everyone else.
Just unlock the perks and get their level 2 and 3 versions from the bloodweb of who you want to play.
Or buy the level 2 or 3 version in the shrine if you can.
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Yeah it's not the greatest fix, and I felt like there'd be something... More. I feel like this will help existing players more than the old system whenever new content is added. Because you won't have to unlock the 3 new perks on every killer/survivor individually over and over again. You just prestige 3 the new character and you're done. And since 0-50 isn't that bad and was never really the problem, it won't be horrible. However it does nothing for new people and players who still have characters to buy or level up from level 1.
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p1 gets the perk at level 1 to everyone. p3 gets the perk maxed out to everyone. It's totally worth getting everyone to p3
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Why would you waste time prestiging a new character three times instead of just doing it once, and grabbing the level 2 and 3 versions of the new perks when you level the character you want to play?
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Now if they would remove pips it'd be so much better. It'd be slightly easier for people to get to iri that way through time played. Which who cares right? It's just blood points now. So with that 2 million bp you got you could probably pristige a character at least once. Mix that with the BP you get through playing matches and you should be able to get 1-2 characters to prestige 2-3. Which feels a lot more rewarding while still keeping something to work towards.
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To each their own. This just feels lazy considering how long it took them.
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Or I could level the new character to 50, and then just do 4-6 blood webs of whoever I want to play to unlock levels 2 and 3 of the new perks instead.
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Getting anyone at p3 means once anyone else is p3, that's 9 less levels of perks to get.. that's 4 and a half webs.. 30 survivors, 4 and a half webs saved per survivor..
that's nearly 120 webs saved.. per survivor
120 times 30 is nearly 3600 webs saved total
(if I didnt get the math wrong, which I probably did)
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Why not? You don't lose anything. Yes it makes sense to do it your way if you have one character with all other perks and they're the only character you play and is only missing the 3 new perks.
However, if you play say all the killers, and want the new perks on all of the killers and don't want to deal with the RNG of the bloodweb, it'd be smarter to just p3 the new killer to get all 3 new perks to tier 3 on all of the killers.
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If you’re wanting to play a character you’re going to be leveling them for addons and offerings regardless. Makes sense to just grab levels 2 and 3 as you do that at the same time instead of investing all that time and blood points just for levels 2 and 3 of perks for characters you’re going to be leveling as you play them anyway.
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My thoughts exactly. And once you p3'd the last character, it's only a matter of getting the generic perks to level 3, since they're the only thing that doesn't persist after prestiging.
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So do that then. I'm not understanding the complaint lol still better than me spending 7 million bp per character to get all the perks
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Seriously. They make a change that benefits most people, and this guy doesn't like it because he doesn't care about maxing out everyone.
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That's a legit complaint. This system only benefits you if you want to max everything. If not it does ######### all for you.
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Don’t like it? I think it’s a great change.
I’ve got P1 on most killers and the ones I don’t are at 40 anyway. So when this is implemented it won’t take much to get everyone level 1 of all teachable unlocked.
But like, I don’t like playing as Leatherface, so I’m not going to waste all those blood points on him to get levels 2 and 3 of BBQ on everyone, and I’d rather not play a killer that has to constantly run on empty with no addons or offerings because all my BP has to go into getting Leatherface to P3.
I’d rather just play the characters I want to play and level them as I normally would for their addons anyway and grab the other levels of the perks as they come.
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Ah yes, the "I don't want it, therefore the others shall not have it" defense. Let's regress, people, no need to move forward, if it doesn't benefit me!
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That isn't what I said. My issue is it only helps some players. Which to me is a bad system. I'm glad it helps others grinds. As it does nothing for me or the others who have no need to prestige characters they don't play I'd think you could understand my frustration.
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Exactly what I said. "Boohoo it doesn't benefit me, therefore others shouldn't have it"
There's plenty of changes made constantly to the game that I don't give a rat's ass about, but you don't see me complaining about it. Not everything has to be about you and your petty needs.
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Sadly, I think I like this fix. I don't know why that should feel sad, but it does. It's a strange fix... and it's very DBDish.
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Stupid take. Literally not what he's saying. Can you read?
"My issue is it only helps some players. Which to me is a bad system. I'm glad it helps others grinds. As it does nothing for me or the others who have no need to prestige characters they don't play I'd think you could understand my frustration."
"My issue is it only helps some players. Which to me is a bad system. I'm glad it helps others grinds. As it does nothing for me or the others who have no need to prestige characters they don't play I'd think you could understand my frustration."
"My issue is it only helps some players. Which to me is a bad system. I'm glad it helps others grinds. As it does nothing for me or the others who have no need to prestige characters they don't play I'd think you could understand my frustration."
I copied and pasted it three times for you smooth brain to read.
His suggestion is that the revisit the changes so that it helps more people. Not to discard any changes in totality.
Amazing how toxic you are.
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"My issue is it only helps some players."
So, for you, let me repeat "Boohoo, it doesn't benefit me, therefore I don't want it"
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Yes, but also no.
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"I'M GLAD IT HELPS OTHERS GRINDS. AS IT DOES NOTHING FOR ME OR THE OTHERS WHO HAVE NO NEED TO PRESTIGE CHARACTERS THEY DON'T PLAY I'D THINK YOU COULD UNDERSTAND MY FRUSTRATION."
Take a reading comprehension course. His suggestion is that they rework their current planned changes so it's not all about prestige.
It's a stupid change anyway.
It takes 5mil BP to get to P3.
It takes around 1 mil to get to level 40 and unlock the perks.
Another 3-4 mil to get the perks on any specific character.
How much does this reduce the grind versus removing all perk tiers and/or letting people get 4 perks at level 50?
For several months of thought and effort this is a lame change.
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Jesus, do you have a reading comprehension issue? I never said others shouldn't have it. I already said I was glad for those it helps.
As for you second point I don't complain about changes that I don't care about. I'm complaining because I've waited years for a grind reduction only to get something that doesn't reduce my grind. So excuse me for being unhappy about that.
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Not only did they address it better than I imagined, but they retroactively convinced me that they were justified on holding off from changing it sooner given this is what they were working on, I was really impressed.
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Why is there some dissatisfied people? What do you want? Maybe all the perks at tier 3 in the other characters just for buying a new characters? If you remove the grind completely isn't good imo, there has to be some sense of progression.
This change reduces the grinding dramatically. I have all the killers and when I buy a new killer I only need to prestige 1 that new killer for unlocking the perks for all the killers at once and I also maintain the items I earned before prestiging.
The only thing I don't like about this change is this should have been implemented as an Anniversary update feature, not as another SOON™.
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Indeed. I want to get started right away, but I would ironically increase my grind if I do not just hold off. Lol.
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Its a big reduction for killers, we basically had to unlock those for each killer we played. Its basically a nerf (i guess?) for survivors becausee putting all your perks on 1 survivor was fine as is.
I'm pretty happy with the changes.Get 1 guy to 50, get tier 1 of his perks on all killers. Thats pretty amazing. I'm a little afraid of the bbq changes though.
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Im pretty sure that if you don't prestige at all, with this you should still get some of your characters to prestige 1-2 depending on how many Tier 3 perks you have on said killer, honestly i hope they adress this more deeply cause i didn't quite get it fully. I hope it means what i just said cause personally i have 0 prestige 3 characters at the moment, I only have a prestige 2 Steve and a prestige 1 Huntress and everything else level 50. So it be cool that I at least get everything to prestige 1 so i can finally go for some more wierd builds for characters i don't spend so many bloodpoints into.
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Look at it this way going to p1 on a character will instantly net you tier 1 of all 3 of their perk on whoever you were trying to unlock it on. Even without going to p2 that will save you a lot of bp on that character because uctually finding those 3 perks sometimes takes more than 10 tries.
Unless if you have like all perks unlocked on that character already, in which case and in case you dont care about unlocking those perks for any other character for some reason, you shouldnt be having any problems with grind anyway since you really arent spending much bp anyway to keep 1 fully stacked guy current.
I love the change, as weird as saying that is.
Good job dbd!
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If the new prestige system is all the grind reduction (well, along the removal of mori offerings )is about then that's a bit disappointing. The grind for add-ons still is gonna be insane if you play several different killers.
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They did it! They took my suggestion!
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I mean sure but at least game will be a shitton easier to pick up for newer players. That is an amazing change for the health of the game <3
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I got a couple at at p3 already. Key is to get them to p1
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I'm so excited for this change!
As someone who has all survivors P3 lvl 50 and most killr P3 lvl 50, it means I only have to level up the new killer and survivor at each release.
Also it only takes about 4 million to get a character to P3 so unlocking all survivor perks to P3 are gonna be so much faster compared to now where it takes about 15 million bp to unlock all perks on a single character.
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I'm confused
How does it possibly not reduce your grind?
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The problem is this change does absolutely nothing to address the infinite addon grind, and there’s a very real chance that BHVR might nerf BBQ’s bloodpoint bonus, because “they fixed” the grind. This means there is a chance this might make my bloodpoint grind even worse, because most of the time I’m only grinding addons.
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As I said it will be helpful for those who want to max everything. The less stuff you want maxed out the further the returns diminish. Given how long we've all waited I was hoping for better.
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