Survivors are not having fun with this game anymore

To be fair, people DC or let themselves go on hook over the smallest of things. I dont tunnel or camp, nor do I use strong builds (I use Hillbilly with BBQ, Shadowborn, and Bloodwarden on some occasions) but people still DC and such. I play both sides, and I can understand getting upset because of the killer using a strong build, or camping and tunneling, but I do neither.

I think people just get tired of DbD, or burnt out on the game. People need to take breaks. If they keep playing over and over, they are bound to find something that upsets them a lot, leading to more frustration since they are already upset, it can build up a lot if unmoderated. But this happens on both sides, this isnt exclusive to just survivors or killers alone.

SoloQ can also be super painful since you have 4 people with some idea what they are doing but literally no coordination whatsoever... Ive said this for a long time. DbD needs voicechat, rather it be proximity based or just VC in general, I wouldnt mind. Survivors need teamwork to win, it's by their design, but literally nothing about the game's design supports teamwork in the slightest. "But killers win because of weak links, and SoloQ enforces that", I dont care, SoloQ shouldnt be as terrible as it is.

When is the last time someone who was in a SWF decided to NOT Genrush because it's not fun for the killer? Probably not often, if not never. Survivors GenRush because it it the most effective strategy. Period. The Killer's feelings or "fun levels" are never taken into account. Anyone being honest with themselves knows this to pretty much be a fact.

Tunneling and Camping are not "the only way", but they are the most effective strategies, regardless of your personal feelings, skill levels, or moral compass. They work, and that is just a fact. You might use it at a last resort when your down to 1-2 Gens to try to shift things in your favor. You might try to tunnel one person out of the game immediately, to shift numbers in your favor.

I don't believe any survivor/swf is EVER going to alter their strategies and gameplay for my Killer's "fun", so why should I be forced to do it for survivors. Don't want to be tunneled, loop better. You have to be caught to be tunneled, and if you're good, and you know the killer wants you, there's nothing stopping you from taking him on a 2-3 Gen ride. Not proud, but it's been done to me, and all I can do is ggwp.

Being camped, do Gens. As a Survivor, I literally have to tell every team, "If I get hooked and camped, just do Gens". Every game, I have to tell people that, and by now it should be common knowledge. I don't mind getting hooked and camped, if the team uses the time to smash Gens. When they all come and try to be heroes and 1 down turns into 3 down, that's when I get mad.

I'm just saying that Killer or Survivor, most are going to do whatever it takes to win. This is a competitive game, and if that's not your jam, that's cool. We don't need BHVR trying to turn players made up "survivor ethics" rulebook into game mechanics.

Getting smashed is not fun, for survivor or killer. I've gone on horrible streaks of getting smashed by EVERY team I went against, and it wasn't fun. What I needed wasn't more rules, nerfs, buffs, etc. What I needed, what I still need, is more TIME and more PRACTICE. I need to improve my own skills so that I can make the game fun for myself, instead of expecting others to do it for me.

This is of course, just my pea-brained 2 cents. 😉

On the PTB. Survivors can use OtR, DH and MoM to gain 4 health states.

Today I had the strangest of games. We were against a slinger in Midwich Elementary, and after getting the drop on one of the survivors that one DCed, shortly to be followed by another survivor.

Me and the Claudette did what we did, I got hooked, Claudette unhooked me and then .. DCed. The Slinger cornered me and gave me the hatch, but that was the most sad match I ever had the misfortune to load into.

Fix facecamping,I made a post about this so let me know your opinion.

I think "working together" can exist. For example: I'm a Killer Main (Nurse) and i played some matches in the new PTB Update and i think Nurse is too strong compared to the live build. That's my honest opinion about this topic and i believe we all can find solutions for new problems which occur.

I also play A LOT Survivor with my friends. We play a few hours every day and i'm aware of the problems which every role naturally comes with. If everyone in the community would play both roles, we could have a better understanding of the real problems i guess. As you have already mentioned, there are hardcore killer mains and hardcore surv mains out there which won't touch the opposite role at all (besides some daylie missions) and this is a problem related to the evaluation of balancing in general. In some cases, it also distorts the amount of likes of comments in the forum and it can lead to a incorrect assumptions, beacuse of the asymmetrical Player distribution in DBD.

Personally, I also had less fun on the PTB build as Survivor than on the live server. Maybe that's just the first impression that speaks from me. However, I had the feeling that the top tier killers like Blight or Nurse were overperforming.

I tried before all I get is arguments. Neutral players that play both sides opinion doesn't matter.

Mains will always pick fights with you for their side. Until the day when they play both sides and see what it's like there will never be together.

Lol, exactly. I'm totally sure they're shaking their head "no" at me because they don't want to camp me. /s

I don't see campers all the time, but I wouldn't say they're rare either. And when you do encounter them it's really lame. It's the equivalent of spawn camping/killing in a first person shooter. You're preventing a player from actually playing the game.

There are times and situations where the camp makes sense strategically and is relatively fair to the person being camped. But your standard twitch streaming killer with four viewers is legit just doing it to be a turd.

Well, I didn't read all the comments. And with the internet of nowadays you can't really know.

Attacked? Where? Wow

I sincerely hope that Off the Record buff doesn't make it past the PTB. Its too much.

Nah, better yet, cry as much as killer did for dead hard and i'll assure You that perk is getting nerfed on PTB, lmao

Im enjoying the game still, but sometimes a few killers make me want to just suicide on hook. I'm sorry to anyone who plays these killers, but Pinhead, Huntress, and Nemesis are so boring to me that its hard to stay engaged, nothing wrong with playing them tho. Overall I still love the game, but everyone is going to have things in games that they don't like, its just how it is for games that have so many characters and perks.