Legacy should be the minimum!
Since it was announced that the prestige system will be changed, there has been a lot of speculation about what players will get for characters that have already been prestige...
The devs were quick to say "there will be no cosmetics", which brings me to my point: WHY NOT!!!
It is always referred to the fact that the grind "then" was much greater and you give the players something special, which adequately appreciates their effort.
The questionable is now, even if bloodwebs were much more expensive back then and the grind quite high, whether that is at all justifiable against the current players who have prestiged?
Back then you could level a maximum of 9 characters for a few months.
Now we are talking about players over the years, in thousands of hours, up to 58 characters laboriously brought to p3 50 and higher. Even if in the past the bloodpoints needed to level were more and there were no blood hunts, I'm certainly not the only one who gives here a huge injustice in proportion.
And these longtime players, who apart from the incredible game time and grind, also lost thousands of perks, items, addons and offerings to prestige, now fobbed off with a glitter picture is an absolute outrage!
I think bhvr should go again very thoroughly in itself, whether what they have thought about, these players is just.
In my opinion, a new edition of legacy cosmetics (perhaps in a different color) is the least that is appropriate ...
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Legacy cosmetics were given out at a time where the bloodwebs were massive, where you didn't make so many points per match, where there were no 100% BP offerings or Events etc. So it was a lot harder to reach Prestige during that time, especially as the game had only been out a few months.
Legacy cosmetics will not be returning.
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The sheer number of cosmetics that would be involved in giving out legacy cosmetics again makes that a non-starter, barring something lazy like the anniversary crowns. Not to mention we have way more licensed characters now; leaving out only Michael/Laurie wasn't that big a deal in 2016, but denying players who have devoted time into the large number of different licensed characters of the same rewards would be much more unfair. Legacy cosmetics will and should stay a one-time thing.
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Ok but, still need a lot of time, dedication and bp for p3 in this game, and, honestly, a little sparkles in the menu is a completly disrespect with any person did spend all for this, and, really? 9 prestiges for receive perks charms? The charms are so bad, for a lot prestiges? should be more gourgeous, shine and big, is just red with a low definition white picture. All rewards about prestige are so disappointed, so, BHVR already saw feedback about this, but, just ignore and fine.
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Licenced characters is a good point there. Imagine that you're only P3 character is a Stranger Thing character or any one of our other licenced characters - you would get no reward.
Making the P3 prior to the update a portrait reward for all characters is much fairer imo.
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And that’s the point: game was out only a few month and now we talk from players who have grinded for years…
It mustn’t be legacy 2.0 but you have set a certain standard in the past and I think you should be guided by that. And to call a picture a reward... well... no offense.
And regarding the license characters, I'm sure everyone understands if there are hurdles here. Also additionally in the scoreboard a P3 logo would be clearly more recognition. Would find it important as a sign if the devs would come up with something appropriate.
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Whilst I respect your opinion on the sparkly icon (personally I think a blood drip effect would have been more fitting, but that's just my opinion) getting to P3 has always been extremely transparent for the last 6 years and people who have gone for P3 for the vast majority of the last 6 years have known that they're doing it for the Prestige cosmetics whilst losing their perks/items in the process. We've all known what that encompassed. The reward for P3-ing before this upcoming midchapter was always transparent that it wasn't a cosmetic skin/charm/etc either.
I understand and empathise that it can be frustrating now seeing people get those same bloody cosmetics without losing their items/add-ons/perks, but likewise, I think ultimately it's a beneficial change for the game overall for prestiges to no longer lose progress. Additionally, people who now want to get those cosmetics now have to get to P6 instead, so they're still investing a large amount of bloodpoints on a character to get the bloody cosmetics*
*Side note, as a Brit, saying 'Bloody cosmetics' always has a double meaning in my head.
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I would have liked to get the anniversary glitter effects for those characters. Its was obviously aplicable to licenced too, so why not give this to players? Or at least a shop-ticket for one outfit (excluding legendary) for each character. But instead we got something noone else can see that even looks really out of place. But at least we can turn it off.
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Don’t get me wrong, but things from the shop we could simply buy, there is nothing nearly a reward.
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As much as like cosmetics, I'd rather the reward not be one because it usually means the licenced characters don't get anything, and I'm sure many people such as myself prestige licenced characters in priority bc they don't have many cosmetics (if any) and they can't be bought with iri shards. For eg if the reward was legacy it'd mean I would get a reward only for a third of the characters I've prestiged, so I'm not mad at all about the reward being portraits tbh.
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"simply buy" ... yeah sure. LOL
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I like the portraits but they could probably make them look better
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I have all characters p3 50, this also includes the licence characters. But I prefer to get a bit as a reward, it’s better than nothing. And the portraits are looking a bit… cheap.
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Yes, I know legacy isn't coming back, blah blah blah, not the point I'm making... I just don't understand BHVR's stance on not wanting to do "exclusive" cosmetics anymore, yet they do them for every event. And for licensed characters, most would have understood with the explanation "we can't do cosmetics for those, but you get 6K shards for each licensed character P3'd" or something along those lines. Using licensed characters as an excuse is a cop-out.
But in any case, as someone mentioned, a P3 reward shouldn't have even been announced. This was a thing where you should have gone big or not done anything at all. Rewarding hard work with recycling some animation from the tome, or wherever it came from, kind of reinforces the "quick fix" method BHVR is famous for.
Sure, some people would have complained about not getting anything for all their hard work, but BHVR is getting that now with the lazy reward given. Even knowing ahead of time, it wasn't going to be a cosmetic and just an icon, I thought it was going to be something original you worked on, but again... just recycled garbage. At least both sides would have been saved from what we got LOL. Hindsight is 20/20 though I guess. At least they knew in advance we'd want a feature to turn it off straight away if we don't want to see our favorite characters peed on (which is actually telling us they knew it wasn't very good) XD
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Man, they should have just removed losing perks, addons and offerings in an update when the prestige reworks were announced.
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Nah, best we get is a portrait which looks like Plague puked on it.
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Yes i love the irony of giving us the option to disable the bragging rights™ reward 😂😂
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Does anyone see your status or only you in the character menu?
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I certainly agree the Prestige Glimmer looks very cheap.
I dont think bHVR is unaware that many veterans are certainly disappointed by this Prestige Legacy Reward by this point.
I care more personally about the changes, but I certainly find it a bit embarrassing on bHVR's part.
I think they should sweeten the deal a bit more. Come on BHVR get the goodie bag out.
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Just put a red circle or a bloody overlay onto the new Prestige Icons and a lot of people would be OK with it.
when you think where prestige in gaming is coming from, it absolutely makes no sense to only show it to the player himself. That makes no sense regarding the basic idea of prestige...
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Sure, so give player who p3 before, all their lost stuff back… round abbot 300.000.000 bp 🤔
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Only you can see the piss effects on your p3´d character portrait.
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Good point 👍🏻
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That's silly; usually, these things are to distinguish players and for everyone to see. I thought our in-game portraits also sparkled for everyone to see.
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The gameplay changes in another discussion please. I hope the announced chapter never go live 🫣
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The Project W? What would possibly go wrong?
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First of all, I don't agree that the reward should be a legacy skin, since it was pretty clear from the start that that was out of the question.
I am just very disappointed with the design of the portraits themselves, which seems very lackluster and out of place. I don't agree that the "turn off" feature is an admission that they know that they don't look good, there are plenty of people who wouldn't be happy having the effect only on some portraits but not all (myself not included but I know a lot of people like it), so I think it's nice they can be turned off - even if they looked amazing. Still, I hope they will see the feedback and at least change the design.
The explanation regarding licensed characters makes sense for outfits but would not apply to post-game screen icons for example, which I have seen as a better suggestion that would actual account for the "bragging rights" without being too crazy.
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I think to make the change without anything would be the bigger mistake. Now they can have an open discussion with the community (a part of this forum)
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I mean... the exact same was said back in 2016 when Legacy first released.
Of course at first everyone is going to have them, but with time (and maybe a convenient loss of all progress bug that scams tons of people off their legacys which you then refuse to return, BHVR?) they will become a lot more rare.
That said, I don't like the idea of just returning Legacy skins - but I would absolutely not mind creating a new set of Legacy skins that look different from the original. Something like a golden version of the base skin would be kinda cool IMO.
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I like the idea of the post-game icons too. They can easily use the actual PIII-icons, maybe with a little tuning.
The discussion about legacy cosmetics I opened, cause in my opinion they couldn’t argue about the grind, how I mentioned. And just because they say something is no reason that make a lot of sense to me. We are all player but customers too, so we can expect from a company an open customer friendly solution.
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Me exercising my bragging rights in endgame manually bc the players I'm playing with/against can't see it.
Me: "psst...ggez, lol j/k... by the way... while I have you... The Ace I was playing in this match was P3'd before the new midchapter went live. Sorry, don't mean to brag"
The Meg in the game: "How do we know you're not lying about P3'ing your Ace before the mid-chapter went live? You're probably lying."
Me: "Well you can't see the peepee glitter, but he's p3'd I swear"
The Killer: "You sure didn't loop like a player who p3'd his character before the mid chapter update went live... yeah, I think you're also lying. Just get gud already"
Me: "I'm reporting you....REPORTED!" (uninstalls the game in disgrace)
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As much as I don't like the legacy portraits we will get, no one forced us to prestige to start with. I've done it because I wanted to. Am I disappointed by the reward? Yes. Should we get the same legacy cosmetic as the ones before us got? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't have any, so I'm not like: "I don't care because I have them". I started to play in 2020, so I was a bit late to get them.
Having legacy now, it'll mean I can get it for Claudette, Jake, etc., and the grind from now wasn't the same as before. It won't be unique for the ones who have the legacy.
I'd be fine with a fancy overlay on the end game screen to be honest. Just to show my dedication to the game, to some characters, etc. I dislike the fact the legacy portraits are personal, but well, I didn't prestige for a reward in the first place...
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Honestly just wish they had announced what the reward was so I could have ignored it and kept all my stuff. The pee filter is of no interest to me for the cost.
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Imma just say it.
They should not have made the p3 reward.
Especially when it turned out like that.
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i honestly do not see why someone would want Legacy outfits for any other reason other then bragging rights
they're just the default cosmetics with a bright orange glow on them, which is essentially a giant neon sign that reads "I cannot hide, please hunt me down"
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there a point to p4 or p9 I heard you can go over the p3 there point to it?
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pretty much this I don't even want them but this reward we are getting sucks.....
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I cannot believe I am saying this, but... there is a point here.
Legacy cosmetics were indeed a fair reward for people who managed to prestige back in the day, but now we are talking about a whole new change (that goes beyond the Bloodweb, I might add) and people who have grinded for YEARS.
That is easily twice the effort it took to prestige all the way back then. And I have seen the old bloodwebs myself, naturally.
I am not saying it has to be the exact same cosmetics, but a PROPER reward is due.
That much is undeniable.
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We are weeks away from the update going live. Its too late for them to do anything different. It will just upset those that didn't like the current reward enough to grind P3 during the event.
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Those people grinded for a few months. I've grinded for a few years , and some people even for several years to get everyone to P3, and even maxed out. This year and especially the last few months I grinded insanely much. So by your (BHVR) standard, a few months of grind deserves awesome rewards that others can see, but a few years of grind deserves not more than ugly portraits filter that no-one beside you can see, and you yourself doesn't wanna see it either 'cause it's ugly?
BHVR, how does this make any sense??
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cool but still give us a reward that isn't a cheap reused particle effect
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None.
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No one is trying to take away from the challenge of the original gamers who toiled away and were rewarded with the original legacy skins of the past. According to BHVR, the new prestige system reduces the grind by 75%! So nor should anyone use the past to take away from the efforts of gamers who put in their time, love, and devotion to P3 their characters with the current system. Everyone on here who says we shouldn't have them has self-imposed reasons we can't have them: we can't have them because then everyone would have them, or what about licensed characters, or what about, what about, and what about... Thanks for your astute insight. Literally the only reason they're not being offered is because BHVR doesn't want to do them. That's it. But it's not like they even have to be super complicated. I'd be happy if they simply took the current bloody P3 cosmetic and made it glowy and shiny. Easy and something I can bring into a match to show off.
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Still, people who p3'd deserve more than some sparkles on their portrait...
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I would rather be awarded a carton of DBD cigarettes.
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One simple solution would be to disable the P3 cosmetics after the new system goes into effect. This way you don't need to design anything new and people have something they can "show off" in game.
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This is a terrible idea, because if you do that you still would need to design new costimetics to the new prestige 9 (i think it's 9 where you get the bloody comestics again), so they would still need to design new cosmetics.
A better thing that an ugly portrait would be at least 2k Iri per P3, it's better than nothing and the players could buy something in the store to show in-game at least (I don't think it's a good solution but it's better than nothing, right?)
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The whole point is it is something in the game that is already unique to people who have P3 their characters. Who said anything about a new cosmetic for P9 or whatever.
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As a owner of legacy outfits I think the old ones should remain locked and those who earned them be the only ones with them, however they should make a new legacy style cosmetic that's a different color there's absolutely nothing stopping them from implementing something like that they just choose to not do it because they wouldn't be making money on it
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I didn’t say now they should give out the „original“ legacy again. I just want make clear, that the grind of the last years should be rewarded in a similar way.
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I mean.. even Deathgarden players got rewarded more than this.
"Players who purchased the original Deathgarden before today’s Deathgarden: BLOODHARVEST launch will receive two Legacy Cosmetics, a VIP flair, and a transfer of all earned exclusive cosmetics with a bonus currency pack based on their original Deathgarden player level."
They got a similar crappy flair as well, but along with legacy cosmetics and currency
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