General Discussions
General Discussions
Survivors - Stop begging for heals
I am the only person in solo queue who fixes generators. Stop teabagging next to me when I'm fixing because you're too stupid to use a healing perk. I have better things to do than bail out needy survivors.
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depending on the situation it would be more ideal to just heal the person
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If they’re not a confident looper, healing them is in your best interest. If they last any longer than 16 seconds in the next chase, it has been worth your while.
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Nah, I will keep dunking on you until you get the picture. I have faith you will figure it out even if you need to solo a gen before you understand my meaning.
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People like you are the reason people still run selfcare
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I lowkey have to since BHVR gutted Self-Care (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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The only time it’s better to finish repairing the gen is if it has more than 60% progress. Otherwise it’s just better to heal them because you don’t want a 3v1 and it forms a bond with them :)
They might be the only person that cares enough to unhook you at endgame while the other 2 just bail out
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make the gen 99 and then heal
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That's why all my survivor builds have CoH in it because I'll just Boom a totem and let them heal themselves. If they are lucky it's also a ShadowStep zone as well....
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Alright I'll pop on self care to waste more of ur time
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Unless the gen is close to finishing, healing would be a better tactic because it avoids a quick, needless down further down the line. Also, they may have been surviving on that state for some time and perhaps are now becoming weary or jittery, making them more likely to go down quicker.
However, of the gen is close then may as well finish it first.
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That will only serve to keep another person out of the trial and increase the chances of a loss. If you don't heal them, means they have to find someone who will, or start searching for chests. They may have brought a med kit at the start but it ran out while they were taking hits from the killer so you could work the gen.
Of course due to the injured noise and blood trails they're more likely to find the killer first.
I run Self-Care as a backup when I either can't find another survivor or run out of med kit charges (or it got Franklin'd) taking protection hits. On the rare occasion I find someone like yourself, I just Self-Care beside them for however long it takes. Some have even have the audacity to try to talk ######### in end game chat about not helping with the gen. Would've loved to, but was busy bleeding and avoiding being an insta-down. Your focus on repair is admirable, though.
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If they don't understand that ensuring the gen getting *permanently* done is more important than a constantly in flux health state, they deserve their death.
If I'm running my altruistic build, ill heal them right there. Still hate them tho.
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There is a time to solely focus on doing gens and not healing, but to do it always can come with a couple of consequences.
This is also why I chronically run CoH. Teammates with this mindset make the game a 1v1v1v1 instead of 1v4. And in 90% of the lobbies I've been in teammates like you don't get unhooked, no one will take a protection hit for you even if it is very much needed, and if it comes to end-game no one is going to wait to see if you make it to an exit gate, everyone will just leave without a care in the world whether you make it out or not 🤷♀️ GL with your gens :)
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It's more beneficial to heal your teammates than to leave them injured. Unless the killer has ruin, the gen can wait.
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I don’t need to be healed by your stinky poopy hands. Inner Strength is all I need.
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Reminds me of this one time a claudette wanted to heal near a regressing generator with ruin.
Some people just dont think about the situation and just want to heal.
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I once was healed 85% and was tbagging dwight on his gen to finish me fast. He didnt flinch so I was just standing there watching him repair alone for 30s until killer came.
Teammates like you are truly something else
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There is extremely few situation where healing is not an ideal action.
...also if you don't like healing people for 16 seconds, you can always bring botany with you.
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Even if a boon is active it's still quicker to team heal than self heal.
Heal the team mate then you can both get on the gen. What you lose in heal time you gain in 2 suvivor repair speed and you're both more secure in terms of health state too.
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God forbid you have to heal a teammate in a teamwork-based game?
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150%/2 is no faster than 75/1, but since generators have penalty in cooperative repairing it's always more efficient to heal solo.
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I bring circle and if a survivor becomes needy with Tbags for heals i just point at the boon
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Pumping out gens before healing was a strategy that worked in the past. It doesn't anymore.
You can't race a equally skilled killer with objectives anymore. If you aren't actively preventing downs or tunnels you are asking to lose
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I'll always heal a team mate in need if they want me to.
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Gosh, sometimes it's not even a full heal that you have to do. It always depends on the situation (hook states, how many gens are done, perks in play), but you should at least assess the situation instead of just sitting on a gen.
I remember a game on dead dawg, a dwight refused to finish my heal. I was literally 95% finished healing, my medkit had ran out. I tbagged and gestured for him to come heal me and he didn't move a muscle, the gen was less than 50% done. After doing this for 10 seconds, I hopped on the gen and by that time the killer was starting to come our direction. Instead of attempting to heal me, he just ran away.
In end game chat he had the audacity to tell me go heal in the boon, which at the time the boon was next to main building and the killer was in chase next to main building. I was near shack and didn't want to run towards the killer since I was on death hook, so I ran to where I knew a teammate was working a gen. No awareness at all. That play potentially lost them the game because once I died, there was still a gen left to do.
Most games, I will do gens injured and when it's 1 gen left, getting the gen done is more important, but keeping teammates alive is as important as getting the objective done sometimes.
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Kind of funny this post is just a couple under the guy who suicides on hook because “solo q” is self caring in the corner.
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I think we are overusing the word t-bag.
There's no chat, communication is limited. I almost want to make a separate post for this.
At the beginning of the round, if I see another survivor we both double tap crouch, it's like saying "hello". This even goes for reunited, double tap to acknowledge their presence"
Spam crouches afterdoing gen, "woot woot!"
Double tap after heals means "thank you".
Spamming crouch to get a heal usually means "please please please please please please, pleaaaaaaaaase"
Spamming croush while someone is cleansing a totem, "Let me boon dat shiz, my friend!"
Crouch to killer:
Quick pump single crouch, "Come get me" usually in a playful way like a cat or dog ready for a chase.
long crouches, "Noooo please don't kill me"
spamming crouches "hahaha, yeah boy"
On your teammates face after a mori, or in dying state:
"t-bagging"
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If they're just looping the killer and coming to you for heals without getting hooked or bringing the killer to you, then you should heal them. They're doing their part in keeping the killer busy so you can focus on gens. If they're terrible at looping and keep getting downed/hooked, then don't bother, unless most of the gens are done already. As a survivor, you should be helping your fellow survivors by healing them. Generally if it's one person, and they are doing a good job at keeping the killer off the gens, then you really should be doing your part to heal them. But like I said, if they aren't doing a good job at looping the killer, then don't.
Finally, you're not going to get all the survivors to listen to you, especially with that attitude.
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Perfect dictionary. We need those printed. 👍️
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This is such an awful take lmao
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Thats not true at all.
Because with the boon, you heal at 50% of another survivor, so it takes you 32 Seconds. If another survivor heals you, it takes 2x16 seconds, one time for the one healing, one time for the one being healed.
Where it makes a difference is at genspeed, because there is an efficiency-penalty of 15%/30%/45% if more survivors work on one gen, meaning if 2 survivors work on one gen the time is not 90 Seconds /2 = 45 seconds, instead it takes about 53 seconds.
So in reality, it is quicker to let one guy heal himself with the boon (total healing time stays the same) while the other works on a gen without penalty, and then the other guy jumps on the gen while abou 40% is already done and the efficiency-penalty only applies to the last 60%.
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If you don't heal me, I won't unhook you. I will 100% leave you to die on hook.
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I’m typically the looper on the team, I can usually last 2-3 gens on average depending on map RNG. Keep that in mind, that survivor might want a heal so he can go back in and keep the killer off you so you can do your precious gen undisturbed.
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The only time this annoys me is when its against a legion without thana. 1.) You're going to get injured again in the time it takes to heal you. 2. By standing next to me bagging you'll give him a two for one special if he comes over. Healing too much against legion is the #1 killer of teams that don't have at least one or two good runners. Do gens.
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Good players don't always use healing perks? You should know this. And they might have Inner Healing but have not done a totem. Think before you post.
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I think the only self healing perks are self-care and inner healing which are both kind of awful? And bringing 2-3 extra perks just to make self-care viable again means you're missing a bunch of other perks for generators, information, exhaustion, or other perks that help in other sections of the game. If you're in this situation often, bring a medkit, drop the medkit for them, and let them heal themselves? Most people are pretty polite and give you back the medkit afterwards.
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See I would care about healing them IF they would work on the Gen....so far after I would heal they will run away not do a Gen and get back into the chase with the Killer because that's what is "fun" to do.....yea they can heal themselves.
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oh alright ill go run self-care
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It really depends on the situation, if there's no gens done and the killer has already gotten hooks then gens need to be prioritized but if you can get away with healing someone without hurting for gen progress then always heal.
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Someone with the name "DeleteSWF" and a killer perk as an icon makes a threat about survivors shouldn't ask for heals. Ok. In case you are serious: I hope I'll NEVER have you in my team. I absolutely doesn't need someone who doesn't know when to heal and when not (and people here wrote absolute good situations WHEN you can and should heal). I bet you are the first who asks for a heal or you are one of these useless people using self care.
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Sounds good, i'll make sure to fail a skill check then go run off somewhere.
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Survivor: nah, heal yourself loser
Also Survivor: why am i the only one doin gens? That claudettes been self healin in bushes for 10 minutes. This game sucks!! Killers are too strong!! Solo Q is too hard!!! Why wont BHVR fix it?!?!?
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"I'm the only person doing gens!!"
Yeah because you leave your teammates to self-care forever.
Stupidity indeed.
Now if it's the last gen I understand
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I haven't been playing bc I was usually the only one on gens in soloQ. Good luck!
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ah, the crouch button. Gaming's universal language.
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To me it depends; how close to done is the gen? If I need a heal and run up to someone on a gen that is close to done, I'll just jump right on and help them finish, odds are they'll heal me after. Same applies to when I am the one on the that gen. If its 80%+, I'm finishing it first, unless you're the only other surv still alive, because on of us might need to run the killer for a while.
To me there's a sort of calculus with how many hook states the team has left and how many gens are left. Generally speaking a finished gen is worth more than a hook state, and if a gen is nearly done, that takes priority to me. Not much worse that losing a nearly finished gen; that's a lot of sunk time.
If I've just started repairing, I'll always stop to heal.
All that said, an injured teammate running up and spamming the crouch button isn't going to motivate me one way or the other. I can see you're injured, if it makes sense I'll heal you.
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As a side note to this: If you see someone randomly crouching in a chase, it's probably not purposeful t-bagging, it's that they're playing on a controller and are accidentally crouching when they're trying to run.
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I almost never intentionally teabag, but this happens all the time, and I'm like "well crap, I guess I just accidentally bought some extended aggro".
Easy for your finger to slip from that L1 to L2, especially when you've been playing for a while.
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Coming back to this hours later, this post still baffles me.
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plz tell me this is a joke post?
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