DS "Nerf"

@Thaznar said:

@e8Lattice said:
I don't actually use DS, I have far more useful perks for my survivors, DS is just a 'crutch' killers like to cry about, I mean really? just turn around and chase them again it's not that hard. (besides, chasing is fun!)

Sure nerf DS but in exchange:

• Double the spacing between all hooks
• Half the amount of hooks there are already

Do that ^ and we have a deal.

It's all about compromise =D

Killers need to manage time well in order to even stand a chance - DS requires no skill and promotes lazy gameplay. It also consumes a lot of killer's time and does not reward him for doing well, but it rewards survivors for doing poorly - where is the logic in that may I ask?

@Thaznar said:
I lost all faith in the dev team - they are very insecure to nerf DS, because they fear the negative feedback. Sad part is DS is one thing in the entire game that fuels toxicity and it seems devs do approve it. The perk itself requires no skill, and most DS users DC every time they are outplayed by the killer. This perk needs to be reworked because in it's current state it's just terrible for both sides.

The list of toxic things killers have and do is so long I won't even bother to begin to list them. Come on man denial is an ugly thing.

If we want people to join, stay and invite their friends to dbd we should be working towards a fair and balanced game that is fun for all.

I'm still proud to have never ever used that Perk to this day, not even when I had to have it equipped to get Adept Laurie. It's literally the only Perk I refuse to use, because I consider it completely unfair and skillless. Decisive Strike cannot be balanced in its current forum.

@Cymer said:
The_Crusader said:

Cymer said:

Sooo, would that s fix DS?

No, it's still an extremely OP perk that if used at the right time can cost the killer a kill or more.

There is no counter to it. If the last person alive has it then they get the hatch guarenteed with no counter play.

Sometimes it gets used in a good spot, the survivor manages to get to a strong loop and this buys the remaining survivors time to finish the last gen, thus ensuring they get the doors open.

All this has happened so many times to me the past few days all because of one perk.

Decisive Strike can not be balanced in its current form. It needs to go. There is no alternative. The idea about having it be a stun might have worked but the problem is anything where it gives the survivor a free escape is too OP, but the devs in their wisdom think it NEEDS to grant an escape off their shoulder which is why it will always remain an OP crutch perk.

The best thing to do would be to remove it from the game entirely.

I mean how many times do you hear someone rant about toxic survivors and you hear "oh yeah they were tbagging, bodyblocking, multiple DS, flashlight clicking etc" - you hear that so much from people. Notice how only one of those is a perk? And how this perk always comes up when people talk avout toxic behaviour? It really says there is a problem with the perk. It's completely unfair.

That's why I suggested that DS only triggers after all gens are done.
You as a killer get 3 min + to kill your obsession. That's a counterplay option, would match with the theme of the original Lorrie scenario and would be truly on a level of NOED, Adrenaline and Remember Me.
You get high risk and high reward when you pick DS when it only triggers in the end game.

what exactly do you mean?

You mean like a rancor effect?

If DS could only be used by one person, but in return the killer got the instadown and mori once gens were done OR once the hatch was open then yes it would be ok.

@Thaznar said:

If the devs have any degree of integrity left in them they should go with the change to DS.

They're aiming for 50% escapes rate. They need to rather buff something else and later nerf the DS.