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Nurse Mains: Just Stop.
You mastered a very difficult killer. You’ve proven your mastery thousands of times by the number of games you’ve 4k’d and chases you’ve won over great survivors, etc etc. It’’s still fun to do but everyone recognizes it’s a bit too easy at this point you know? It’s imbalanced, overpowered and just ruins games. As soon as people hear nurse and then either see someone downed inside 20 seconds or get downed themselves, it’s over. Suicide, DC, etc. So maybe it’s time to move on. Challenge yourself with something difficult again instead of resting on your laurels and treading well worn paths. Just a thought…
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Someone just died to a Nurse
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Survivors DC and suiciding are gonna be the reason Nurse gets nerfed, just like all the other killers that get nerfed for that reason.
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Have you tried learning to play against her instead? It helps.
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That heartwarming moment when you load into a match, hear that awful screech. One teammate disconnects immediately and the rest run to the nearest hook and wait to die. It's nice how folks come together and just say no to nurse.
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How about no.
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I think the argument of “learning to play against” a top tier nurse is moot at this point. She’s broken. Everyone knows it. You just like easy games and feeling all powerful. I get it. But seriously, it’s not impressive anymore. It’s just broken. Move on.
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Whatever floats your boat. :P
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Cope, seethe, mald <3
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Nurse needs nerfs asap. I think we should organise a campaign to show the Devs this, like what happened with old legion.
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While I would keep her unique concept in DbD (in other words; no drastic rework of her teleport power), these are just facts that most Nurses run Lethal Pursuer ( + range add-ons), I am all Ears and Flood of Rage perks
These perks are just completely broken on her and remove the few strategies that are available against her tier-S power: stealth, line of sight break, unpredictable paths, ...
Basically:
- 90+% nurses I face run at least one of these perks
- 50+% nurses I face run at least 2 of these perks
The rest of my game vs Nurses are usually:
- 3+ slowdown perks: just unbearable, even against pretty mediocre nurses
- hexes builds (DH+HG+Retrib) to try breaking the WR ("fastest win ever") ; if you do not touch totems at the beginning of the trial, you will quickly lose once DH reached 3 tokens (very easy to get 3 hooks on her in a reasonable time), game is over at this point (thanks to the devs to keep her blink attack as a regular M1-attack, by contrast to Blight)
- 1 out of 100 games: Adept Nurse, or unexpected single Shadowborn perk
Most of these combinations are just unhealthy for the game and devs must be blamed for the possibility to use these strong tools on her.
At the very least, they need to add perk constraints on this specific killer class, followed by full add-on pass.
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Didn't you use to be demogorgon main now you're like biggest nurse defender.
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If Nurse would not be able to perform a second blink quickly after the first, she would be quite balanced imo.
The second blink just gives you a second chance in case you misplaced the first one, which is not really cash money you know ?
Or make her stacks refresh only after she hits someone or kicks a gen.
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So instead of you becoming a good survivor, you want good killers to be nerfed to compensate for your low level?!
You mastered a very difficult killer. You’ve proven your mastery
Now it is your turn to master survivor role and give the master nurse a challenge instead of crying for nerfs because they are out of your league.
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Agreed but in that case we should probably make her a 4.4-4.6 m/s killer.
Also she should probably make a screech sound after every teleport.
Though this might seriously hinder her ability to traverse the map, so what if we also gave her a secondary ''teleport'' skill where she can mark an area as ''exit'' or ''entry'' points and whenever she is in those marked positions she can teleport to other marked positions in map, no range limitation.
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Dont forget Starstruck lol
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Im surprised people still play as Nurse when they have to wait in really long queues just for the game to end in seconds because of DC's or suicides on hook
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She's not though. Against good teams, this still happens to her like any other killer:
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Why are we blaming the killer for survivors rage quitting?
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thats low mmr. Win 100 matches or so and you face survivors that actually want to play the game instead of throwing tantrums.
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Seriously… how many times do I need to spell it out. No one buys that argument. I realize that many killers have a problem accepting the fact that their wins are ‘assisted’. They want to believe that they win 100% because of their amazing ability in a fair game. They are just that much better than every one else. But come on man… it’s time to burst that bubble and wake up to reality. She’s broken. You’re playing EZ mode. No one is impressed. Yes…. She was really hard to master. Kudos to you for going through that work. But stop being lazy now. Play something that has some level of challenge.
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The win means nothing when its not earned. So the nurse player is kindly helping you get a very meaningful win. We do this, free of charge, because we are such kind loving individuals.
Enjoy it buddy, i know i will <3
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Nurse is pretty much the only Killer that I think actually needs restrictions on what she can bring.
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All nurse does is prove the point that winning is meaningless when you cant lose. A point that is clearly self-evident yet some of you geniuses want to keep throwing ‘pseudo’ at it. Lol. Be my guest…
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Or just straight up nuke her add ons so they arent ridiculous and then make her 2nd blink a special attack so exposed actually takes some skill to use on her.
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I mean, even if they stop her from using Starstruck, people will stack four slowdowns on her.
There should be a perk weight system for some Killers, I just don't know how it would work without being ridiculously complex. Like, a good Nurse doesn't need Range and 4 slowdowns. A Myers running Scratched Mirror though? He probably does.
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There is no way 4 slow down is even close to being a good build on nurse. I mean it could work but its like putting tractor wheels on a ferrari or something.
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Eruption, PR, Surge and Overcharge.
But you're probably right. It'd be more like Lethal, Floods of Rage, PR, Surge.
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Why do you think you're facing top tier nurses? If you're seeing a lot of DCs as soon as your teammates hear Nurse you're more likely in low MMR simply because constant 3v1s will lower your escape rate. If you're facing baby Nurses just play Nurse a little bit until you learn how to land reliable blinks and you're much better suited to counterplay her.
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K. I’m not going to devolve this thread into self defense but… i wasn’t the pseudo intellectual in that thread. Lol. I said winning is meaningless when you can’t lose. A point that is still solid and still factual. Sorry that it bothers you to be unable to counter that. If you still want to argue against that point, use that thread to your heart’s desire. This thread is about nurse.
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You really can't reason with Nurse mains, I mean they're playing Nurse. Lol at very difficult killer.
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Okay maybe refresh them on hit and gen kick, and also after like 10 seconds. How about now ?
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You use that as an example of a "good team"?
That's not just a good team. That is basically the best DbD team to ever play in public matches and easily in the top 0.01% of teams. Seriously can you even find another team that use a minimap, call out everything and sweat that hard in public matches?
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When the range add-on change comes through with the next dlc, then we'll see perhaps a fairer Nurse, as the range add-ons are the real difficulty with her for me currently.
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Range and Torn Bookmark need reworks to the effects entirely.
Recharge is strong but balanced.
Certain maps need their size increased/decreased (for too small and too big respectively).
The basekit is completely fine.
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If you're at the point where all you're facing is cracked Nurses, it means your mmr is at or exceeded the cap, and therefore you're getting exactly what the system wants, so you should take your complaints to the system, not the sweat lords who love it. The hopeless feeling you get is exactly what weaker killers have experienced for a while, it's a terrible feeling but you can either quit or get used to it.
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purple range add on is really her only issue. other than that, you just need to get good. you beat nurse by playing the exact opposite way you would against any other killer. do things that would get you killed against normal killers. go for the most idiotic pathing and plays at random. that is how you outrun nurse.
additionally, if you run more than 2 slowdown perks on nurse, you are a baby. she does not need that. you can 4k most of your games only running jolt for slowdown, even against good teams. I say this as someone who plays nurse quite a bit. if someone escapes through a gate when you're running pain res, dms, deadlock, and jolt all in the same build with NURSE, you are the entire circus. playing nurse with perks like that is like lebron going to the local park and dunking on 10 year olds
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So... you want people who like playing Nurse... to stop playing Nurse... because survivors don't like her? Did I get that right?
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They can't let nurse be nerfed, because then they would have to admit all the easy 4k's they get are mostly a result of Nurse's busted mechanics and not their own skill.
But who are we kidding, they would all just switch to Blight while he is still busted.
Players who want to play a balanced game wouldn't play nurse to the point they defend her on forums.
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No actually.
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Let's reverse it then. Nurse from the top Competitive team Oracle "Ayrun" facing 1 comp player a ttv that meme'ing around and some two other players ( possibly rando ) without communications and with High ping.
PS: In equal ground, Motaz's team won versus SupaAlf.
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I saw a Nurse the other day with no perks and range addons. Team suicided at 5 gens
You can only imagine the Nurse must have been thinking "I'm such a god! Killing these teams perkless!"
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It's a fact. Skilled players are better than Scrubs. Scrubs need to put in effort learning instead of cry and moan everytime they get decimated by someone that climbed the skill ladder higher than them.
Their wins are deserved since they put in time to master their craft instead of asking for hand outs. Time for you to do the same and master survivor role.
So stop blaming players that are better than you and start looking at the mirror for once.
And here's a tip for you: To reach higher skill level, you need to drop the casual mentality.
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Sure, let’s nerf nurse. Then we can start whining about blight and get him nerfed (maybe we can just insist “he’s boring, unfun, and has no counterplay” since that’s apparently the magic spell that convinces BHVR to do whatever survivors want). And then finally we’ll have a game with 0 viable killers (instead of the current 2) and we’ll never have to worry about losing ever again!
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Let's reverse the situation then; Nurse from the competitive team Oracle "Ayrun" Versus 1 comp player, ttv player that keep meme'ing around and two possibly randos without communications and with high ping.
On Equal ground, Motaz's team Versus SupaAlf;
PS : This is a repost since first post is waiting for confirmation after i edited it, and i don't want to keep on the look out if it got confirmed or not.
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So they just have to listen to Disturbed?
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Same could be said for nurse. She often has the lowest kill rate of any killer. I guess then nurse is fine? You can't think that what these survivors do is fine because "they are one of the best teams" but that nurse also needs a nerf because "the best nurses are too strong against average players" you can't do that. It's wrong at best, and flat out biased at worst.
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I miss the days when you were the Demo enthusiast.
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Ladies and Gentlemen… I present you the Killer mindset. A mix of undeserved arrogance and deliberate ignorance of facts. A nurse’s high skill curve doesn’t mean she should be all powerful. That seems to be your main misunderstanding. I’ve put in thousands of hours as well. If I’ve mastered survivor should I be uncatchable? These players aren’t ‘better’ than me. Well, I mean sure… some are. I’m not that arrogant. But these Nurse mains are just exploiting an imbalance in the game. They are bringing a gun to a fist fight and then patting themselves on the back for their awesome fighting skills.
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For balancing purposes, we are obligated to believe that every SWF is just a bunch of friends goofing around and barely trying and that every nurse is a 12,000 hour pro sweatlord.
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I think it’s interesting no one complaining about Nurse ever has an actual answer for why survivors perform evenly against her if the skill matchup is even, and there’s no other extraneous factors that would obviously distort it (eg, a map that favors one side, people not trying, meme builds vs serious builds, etc).
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