Thoughts on PTB changes?

Reassurance:was i a good perk.

Me:some say you were the best.

I'm very happy with almost all of the changes. Increasing the basekit hook protection is very nice, and the bloodweb changes are amazing. Wesker's changes solve all the issues I had with him, and more.

I like most of the perk changes, the change to Low Profile is pretty cool, it'll still be a niche perk but it could come in clutch. Better Than New will be pretty nice now as well. I'm pretty bummed out over the Awakened Awareness nerf, though, but that's the only change I really dislike from the Dev Update.

How is better than new still somewhat useful. They took away what survivors would use it for, and that is gen repair speed

So they fixed 2 bugs that wouldn't let him use his power properly and they nerfed 1 of his best perks and Made his precision harder to master for grabbing a survivor + on top of that , when you throw a survivor onto another survivor, he wont get injured.

So There are more nerfs then buffs to this killer.

It probably doesn't seem like buffs to people that wanted Wesker to be buffed to Nurse's level.

The buffs he is getting are not particularly big, but will make him better to play, and are just enough in my opinion. I really believe he will be extremely well balanced, unless the injure hitbox after vaulting is big, than it could be a bit too much, but I doubt that will happen.

I am so happy they didn't listen to any of the crazy buff suggestions some people made. I am so looking forward to a new strong killer that also has a good amount of counterplay for survivors. I think he will be a lot of fun to go against.

Doesn't seem like most people are agreeing with you here.

I think this was absolutely necessary, and is going to be one of the best parts of the new update. Finally we actually have a proper anti-tunneling mechanic in this game. And it's surely here to stay. I couldn't be more happy.

Now BHVR only has to nerf camping adequately, so killers are more encouraged to play normally, and the game will be in the best state it's ever been. There are enough ways to nerf camping without hurting killers too much, and it's needed after all the buffs killers got. But it's already just really good to see that BHVR is listening to their community.

You know that it's still powerful af, right? You can technically use it up to 6 times per match (2 times on each teammate). If anything it's better now, in case you happen to have several teammates hooked and on the verge of hitting next stage. The only difference is that now you can't abuse it with 4-man-squad, effectively infinitely keeping hostage guy on hook and game in general.

The thing I'm upset about with Reassurance is that you previously could use it to stop a facecamping Bubba in his tracks. Now he's still going to get at least one kill out of it halfway through the game, and probably more considering that you need to keep running back to his lair between gens. Previously with Reassurance, he got the kill at the very end but couldn't accomplish anything else through the entire match as long as one person had the perk, which ideally would have made the strat much less attractive and discouraged people from playing like that.

It's not useless, but it's not a hard counter like it was previously. It was not necessary to nerf Reassurance this hard in order to fix the problematic part of it.

You don't understand, survivors need to be able to get a free escape from an area designed specifically to prevent free escapes and make rescues risky as its entire point of existing, the previous effect wasn't enough to get to the window or pallet for free without any bodyblocking or other risky manuvering as punishment for getting put into such a place! everyone knows the killer shack only exists to be a free godloop on every map!

awakened awareness isnt his best perk that would only be good on nurse

um yeah if you vault small loops as wesker you will get looped till daylight so just break the pallets you dont even know how much his hitbox got changed, it was huge on the ptb and this change will make him better to play as/against

Decent changes overall. I do think they prematurely hit Awakened Awareness. Can't see this perk taking up a slot now that the aura reading doesn't last through the forced directional hooking animation.

I mean, yeah, Lethal Pursuer + Awakened Awareness could be strong. That's 2 entire killer perk slots dedicated to nothing but aura reading. It should be strong. Now AA just doesn't look useful at all, Lethal Pursuer or not; Survivors can run all the way to Narnia by the time you finish finding a hook + the hooking animation so the tiny glimpse of aura reading you get before hand does not matter for much.

It would make a clown going from c tier to A tier, what you on about

I just want to know what is meant by hook instance. Is it once each time the person is hooked or once per hook state. That wording is too ambiguous.

I personally have been on the side of actually substantially benefitting from the recent teachable system rework - I have all perks on every character now and I would most likely not have been able to achieve that for another few months without these changes. Or maybe not ever because there's some characters I was just not gonna really spend points on, and there's new characters being released every so often of course.

But I know that for a variety of different scenarios, that teachable rework wasn't actually a substantial grind reduction, such as when you're not looking to get all perks on most characters. So more grind changes are welcome, even though I personally won't really notice or care much.

They again say camping but then there aren't actually any changes to camping. Hook grabs still there, killers being able to use their ability right next to hook still there. In fact, they nerfed Reassurance, the one band-aid this update brought that actually did something about camping.

I am glad the unhook Endurance was increased to 10 seconds, that will be much more impactful than the 5, which most of the time just didn't do anything against tunnelling. I think it would be better to make this a 10-second unhook invincibility duration though, such that getting hit within this time frame does not consume Off The Record. Collision should probably also be disabled for these 10 seconds then.

Their choice of words here reveals a fundamental issue in the approach to tunnelling: "We hope you’ll find these improvements to be much more effective in discouraging the Killer from chasing the same Survivor immediately after they’re unhooked." - Rather than discouraging the killer from tunnelling, it would be possible to make it much more difficult to tunnel altogether. Endurance only means the killer will have to hit the survivor once more, which quite often isn't much of a hurdle at all. Old Decisive Strike was such a strong anti-tunnelling tool because the lengthy stun timer allowed the survivor to make so much distance that they could lose the killer altogether rather than immediately be in a chase again. I for one enjoy chases, I don't mind getting tunnelled as long as I get an actual chance for a fair chase, but a major issue with tunnelling is that other survivors in one's matches can still die within seconds and get tunnelled out within the first 1-2 minutes of a match. Reverting the DS stun timer change would be one thing that's beneficial in combating tunnelling, and you could also make it so that unhooked survivors have no blood, scratchmarks or cries of pain for 30 or so seconds, as well as increase the Haste effect to that same duration.

I actually sort of enjoyed the new Mettle, but it was undoubtedly a nerf to an already weak perk, so I don't mind it being reverted.

Wesker changes seem promising. Collision as well as being powerless against vaulting survivors were the major concerns I had in PTB.

Will have to see him in action, but with these changes, I honestly can't see how he isn't comfortably A tier, and probably upper A. He's like Huntress on steroids.

Reassurance nerf is unfortunate. Preventing abuse was as easy as making the perk not stop the skill checks such that survivors can still intentionally miss them. At one activation per hook stage, the perk is not bad, but it has definitely lost its immense impact potential against camping, in its original form it may well have "solved" camping in various situations. At the very least, I think this should be increased to two activations per stage.

Awakened Awareness nerf is also unfortunate, if I was looking forward to this perk at all it was mostly for the Lethal Pursuer synergy which is now cancelled. Simply adjust Nurse already.

Low Profile is still a very bad perk. It's surprising that they didn't include you being the only healthy survivor as an additional activation instance, but even then the perk would not be good. That said, at least now it's not laughably terrible.

Better Than New is still terrible. While the duration removal is a good change, now that it won't affect repair speed it doesn't even matter anymore. Either reduce it to 8% and include repair speed again, or to 10% and include vaulting speed. As well as sabo and gate opening speed, I mean why not.

Glad they appear to have left Superior Anatomy and Hyperfocus/Stake Out alone.

Basically everything was great except the nerfs to Reassurance, Better Than New, and Awakened Awareness (looking at you, Nurse).