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Can Myers please be the next killer to be looked at?
He's in such a poor state right now, even if they just band-aid fixed him for the time being by making J Myers Memorial basekit I'd take that.
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I agree that he could benefit from an overhaul. He is situationally fun (tombstone piece, scratched mirror), but his basic kit is really limited and weak. He's just very, very uneven, and dependent on add ons to be anything other than really weak.
I'd like to see him upgraded to a level commensurate with his horror stature.
Plus giving him a visual overhaul like his map would be nice.
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I've got mixed feelings on Myers getting an update. On the one hand, he is severely underpowered, and also has one absolutely busted addon that does not belong anywhere near 2022 DBD. On the other hand, he has two really great things going for him that I'm terrified they'd lose. One, he's got perhaps the most dynamic, game-changing addon selection of any killer, and the result is that there are many different Myers out there and you don't know which one you're facing until the game is underway. I think that's really cool and it creates an uncertainty factor that really adds to the fear of versing him. Two is that his design, while outdated with modern game flow, is by far the most accurate-feeling licensed killer in the game.
He needs help, but that help has to be applied very carefully. I'd weep if he got the Freddy treatment. Probably the first order of business is to make it so that stalk juice slowly recharges over time and he can't run out, and then find a way to improve T1 so that it's not a straight handicap but rather something Myers can use to his advantage.
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They will probably butcher him
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I think the next killers getting reworked is Onryo and Twins
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Onryo is not gonna get reworked anytime soon, unfortunately. She suffers from Myer's Syndrome where a small piece of their power (their innate moris with no hook requirements) carries so much of their power budget that they need to be kept in an underwhelming state to avoid snowballing out of control. Furthermore, she was just recently released.
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I did hear something that Onryo is the next killer getting looked at.
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It is subjective, I personally find him fun without add ons myself. Do not get me wrong, I am jealous of Tombstone and Scratched Mirror. Heck, even infinite tier 3 Myers. All very cool stuff. Love watching them. He is still fun, to me, even if he sucks donkyru.
I am just saiyan that if they buffed him, I would hope he retains his simplicity. Kind of like the Legion and Ghostface "reworks" where they literally stayed the same tier, lol. Amp them up a little for their fans so they can freak out and pretend the killers will be good. But more or less keep them the same. That would be ideal, in my opinion.
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He looks at you, you dont like at him.
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Buff base kit for Myers, PLEASE! Nerf the tombstone piece whatever.
We've had a Halloween trilogy coming out since 2018, can we at least get a halloween 2018 skin if we aren't going to buff him??? Come on man.
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we can only hope the sassy lost child gets some love.
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I just hope we get to keep Judith's Tombstone, I'm fine with anything else changing.
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They promised a Twins rework long time ago and we still didnt got it...
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They said it was coming after legion and Ghostface. But then we got the 40 perk changes so there probably in the next update after wesker or the one after
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There are killers that arent even fun in situationally, because they do not have different builds to go for. Myers can go for 3 or even 4 playstyles.
Pig can go for different playstyles.
With Sadako, you can go this Condemn-Way, but besides that, its all about Iri Tape.
Freddy can only go for Gen Defense with his Gen-Teleport, Addons who give him wallhacks just like Amandas Letter or Mirror-Myers arent available.
So for me, they need to look at Sadako and Freddy first before Myers.
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Oh, I think Sadako and Freddy should be first up (I am a big JHorror/Ringu/Sadako fan, but she's in rough shape), but I can see a case for Myers being high on the list.
Really, I think the licensed killers in general are pretty underwhelming. The only representation in near the top is PH (and probably Wesker), a few are mid-tier, and the rest are just kind of...bad. I think they have been given poor treatment.
And Freddy...is probably the worst killer in the game rn, which is a travesty. I have a pipe dream that BHVR will acquire the rights to the classic Freddy, and we'll get an overhaul with a Robert Englund skin (w/voice lines), and classic survs (at least Nancy). That would be awesome.
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Wesker will become super powerful and really fun to play. I have no doubt that he is AT LEAST Bottom A-Tier.
But yes, apart from Wesker, Pyramid Head and Demo, all license killers need help.
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Myers is in a good spot though? There's plenty of killers more in need of attention.
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I'd love to see more of his base stats at least changed with tiers.
Maybe Tier 3 could also increase Pallet break, hit cooldown, or even movement speed. Make his tier 3 much more threatening if they keep his current playstyle.
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Honestly, I think he just needs his addons nerfed and he's mostly fine! Remove the tombstones, nerf infinite tier 3 to 60 extra seconds instead of infinite, maybe look at jumpscare mirror a bit to make it more interactive to fight. But for basekit I think he's pretty well designed. Maybe bring back that sound effect that lets you know he's about to go to tier 3 but I don't think I'd change him any more than that.
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You seriously think nerfing Myers with no buffs is the right thing to do? He's unarguably bottom 5, and bottom 1 on many people's lists.
Tombstone Piece needs to go, and Judith's is questionable (I personally think it's balanced, but it's not remotely fun or engaging), but the man himself needs help. And before you ask to nerf Scratched Mirror, you should realize that it's genuinely only viable on a handful of maps, and even then it's a meme countered by running in a straight line. If you verse a SM Myers on Swamp or Yamaoka, they'll be lucky to get two hooks. The addon itself does not need any kind of nerf.
I'll agree that his basekit design is good in that it's simple yet effective for invoking the character, but in modern DBD it's very underpowered for the same reason Trapper having to collect his traps is so bad for him, and he's also the only killer who can completely run out of his power. His addons are a solid three-fourths of what Myers has going for him. You can't take those away and give survivors more information about his power status, and then give him nothing in return.
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All I want are better chances to getting Scratched Mirror in the Web.
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I wouldn't take people who think m1 killers are fine seriously.
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There's nothing wrong with Myers besides the stalk bug where after you stalk it decreases a little otherwise he's fine!
Myers has some of the best/strongest add-ons in the game!
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The people saying Myers is fine and needs absolutely no changes 🤡
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nerf myers? what lmao!!
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Myers is such a 2016 relic.
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Yeah Idk I do think he needs some love but I also don’t have ideas on how he could be changed.
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I'm a Mikey main and while I firmly stand on the opinion that he's not nearly as weak as some people claim (not even in the bottom four killers), he definitely could use some quality of life changes.
I don't think they've done any changes to his power since 2016. Its almost like they're afraid to make any changes to him.
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I don’t get the sudden push to rework Myers. He’s not as weak as people claim him to be.
about the only tweak he needs is for stalk to slowly accumulate again on maxed out survivors so you’re not forced to prioritise eliminating a specific player to have a power throughout the game.
Otherwise his power is great, it requires timing and skill to use well.
His addons do exactly what addons should do which is either change up his gameplay entirely or apply a new threatening effect.
Lastly his gameplay is thematically appropriate, a slow burn that starts with him creepily staring from the bushes and culminates in a killing spree.
Can he be brutally gen rushed by a coordinated team, well yeah but so can any killer. If done right though you can interrupt that and snowball quickly into a 4K even against highly coordinated teams.
The recent base killer changes helped him a lot and he’s better than people give him credit for.
The key to playing him is 99ing tier 2 and popping tier 3 at the right moment for the down, if done right you can snowball it into 2 or even 3 downs.
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2 days ago you were saying that Billy is still top 5 killer in the right hands, now you are saying Myers is fine and even his addons should be nerfed. Im not surprised.
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Bottom 5? No way. He's still got an on-command instadown, pseudo-stealth, vault/lunge speed increases and is good at snowballing, as well as having amazing perk synergy. He can turn the game around with one good use of Evil Within III like oni can, except he doesn't even need to hit people to get his power. Sure he's no nurse but he's better than people give him credit for.
Your scratched mirror argument would be good if not for the fact that every jumpscare myers runs a map offering for these indoor maps, therefore guaranteeing that he goes on them. And I never said it was exceedingly strong, just uninteractive. Like you said he can't chase normally, which removes the most fun aspect of the game, and replaces it with cheap hits at random with no way to tell they're coming. Sure it's "scary" but it gets old very quickly. Every jumpscare myers game is the exact same.
Myers never runs out of his power. If he's run out of his power, the game is over and has been over for a long time. And I never said to nerf his best fair addons, like the stalk rate addons and his finite duration addons. The warning change is just a quality of life change so it feels less miserable when you get 99d and one tapped out of nowhere because self care meg fed him stalk. But I think his power is very well designed so I don't think it should be changed more than necessary.
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If you don't think tombstone piece or infinite 3 murder myers need changing, I don't even know what to say. And for hillbilly, just watch Sofarex to see what I mean. This topic is about myers not him.
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Tombstone Myers what makes Myers a bit better than Trapper or even Freddy. Infinite Tier 3 is not even that strong, just Plague's infection with a fast lunge and fast vault. Sure you can nerf these addons if you really want but Myers is already pretty weak and you should at least make his power a bit better.
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Well?
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Just in time for Claire's facelift. Wb.
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Best thing about the chapter🥲
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Oh yay welcome back bestie 😁
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Missed you
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Myers could use some love, yeah, but on the killer roster Nurse needs to be changed most of all. Like, by a lot.
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Missed you too lol. I’ll see you on discord later ;)
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Noo ! Blight need an emergency nerf after maybe.
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unless it's a rework for his power that makes him play differently and not just some tweaks (like ghostface) then he doesn't deserve to be looked at now.
in my opinion myers is pretty boring to play you stand still --> you fill a meter --> you get an instadown, no skill no fun ways to use the power it's too bland even freddy has more versatility than this.
plus going against him isn't the best thing either.
i think they should focus on twins and deathslinger, two very creative and fun powers that are unfortunately nerfed to the ground and now they're left to rot.
thankfully they mentioned looking at twins a while ago but when are they actually gonna address them? idk hopefully this year. but mikey can wait ( a tombstone piece nerf shouldn't wait tho)
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I actually like the add-on selection on OG killers like Myers and Hag. Back then the game was more dynamic and unpredictable, you had to figure out what the killer was running and you could really surprise people with your builds. Modern Dbd plays it way too safe, yes we get new perks and killers, but rarely do they really alter the gameplay and if they do they get nerfed.
Look at Reassurance, I never even got to try that one.
Old school Dbd was way more chaotic but chaos beats mediocrity anyway in my book.
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So.......You're saying you would NERF Myers? And that his basekit is A-ok? This is why survivor mains aren't taken seriously. I am curious though, what are your opinions on Artist, Pinhead and Nurse?
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As I've said, his basekit is very well designed and fitting for the character. I wouldn't change it much, if at all. What do you want to do, give him a projectile or a teleport? No. He's extremely accurate to the films, a popular killer even to this day, underrated in strength and above all, fun on both sides. All he needs is his problematic add-ons nerfed, and a tiny QOL change so it feels less miserable to be one tapped out of nowhere. Don't fix what isn't broken, I say.
Artist is my least favourite killer in the game in her current state, but not because she's OP - she's the 4th best killer, yes, but I dislike her because of how poor her design is in practice. The idea of a Hyper Ranged Killer is really interesting, but in practice, her ranged ability is kind of lacking. It's difficult to land prediction crows, and it's interactive on both sides as well, but that whole aspect of "long-ranged pressure" is entirely negated by the fact you can just hop in a locker to get rid of it. I enjoy fighting artists that go for prediction shots through walls instead of mindlessly placing crow at loop and forcing you into it. It's like the difference between a Pyramid Head that goes for shots and a Zone Cone that just puts you into 50/50s and never shoots unless you're in an animation. Zoning is not fun for anyone, and neither is holding W. I've made a long comment about her before, but I think she is in dire (haha) need of changes. I would nerf her chase power (either make her 110% when at least one crow is spawned, or go the nuclear option and make direct crow hits not damage) and then reduce her crow launch cooldown dramatically, therefore making her the true Ranged Killer and strengthening her fun chase playstyle, while nerfing her boring zone playstyle.
Pinhead is a strong killer in the right hands, but fighting him is ruined entirely by solo queue. Most pinheads are terrible at using their power, so resort to the Man With Box M1 playstyle and hoping the box carries them - which it usually does by sheer value of passive pressure. His difficulty is also very overstated, as you can just do a nurse and place the portal at survivors' feet to chain them. He also is very annoying to fight with the constant chains and slowdown. He is not fun in the 1v1 not the killer-beloved 4v1, so I'm not a huge fan.
What do you expect me to say about nurse? She's an overpowered relic of the past that needs to be brought in line with the other killers. I will say that most people overstate her strength a little though - I think her and blight are about the same, both in strength and frustration to fight. I have to say though, I'm glad people are finally realising how easy she is to play. She was actually the first killer I ever properly picked up, which says a lot about her alleged difficulty.
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Wait when did they buff his stalk speed?
Because that add on increased the stalking speed
And also because now it is base kit this add on has smaller number right?
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I completely agree with you - I just think Tombstone Piece goes too far. Being able to delete a survivor on your very first interaction with them is pretty no bueno in my books.
Otherwise, yeah, I miss wild and versatile addon sets like Wraith's, Hag's, Doctor's, and Myers'. The modern selection is indeed very safe and tends to include few to no playstyle changing addons (like Trickster's ricochet blades or Pinhead's Engineer's Fang), just numbers tweaks here and there. And then you have sets like Pyramid Head, Freddy, or Nemesis where there's barely anything in there that affects the killer at all.
Blight is probably the best addon set in recent history (both in power and design), but since that came on a killer who's already extremely strong basekit, some of his options get pretty nutty...
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He badly needs some work, but I think Onryo and Twins are next in line for some love.
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You might want to read what I wrote again lmao
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Atm its wesker that need to be looked at
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