a blast mine nerf... really? A perk that does literally nothing

This perk was fine the way it was—it wasn't even that strong when you did get use out of it. Y'all nerfing it to the point that it's literally useless now makes no sense, which isn't helped by y'all providing no explanation for it.

Rizzo, thanks for that answer. I think some people feel that, because Feedback doesn't get as much traffic, viable ideas get "buried." If their idea was filed under "General," then a lot more people would see it, and if a lot more people saw it, then there would be more reactions (especially affirmative). If there are thousands of views and dozens of comments, then there might be more "weight" given to the idea. In other words, BHVR might consider something more if they saw there was a large amount of (mostly affirmative) commentary. And unfortunately, threads like that only happen in "General" because that's the broadest and most popular thread.

Yeah this is a hard disagree from me as well, ######### bhvr lol.

Agree. Perk was for memes and challenges. It wasn't good and wasn't worth a perk slot. Circus.

blast mine did not needed a nerf man! why!?

blast mine stuns killer for 5 seconds. that's like old decisive strike. it interrupts the killer from kicking gen as well. so killer spends like 10 seconds doing nothing from trying to kick gen, the gen stunning killer for 5 seconds then killer kicking the gen. it's pretty strong. often I would work with teammates on gens then plant the mine, the killer kicks it and get stunned and my teammate gets a ton of distance for me planting that mine.

i used it when the perk came out with sb/flashbang/blastmine/bt. it was a meme-type build where 99% my sprint burst to flashbang save people from shoulder and waste killer's time with blastmine by giving my teammates a 5 sec stun on killer kicking gens.

The perk isn't ultra instant-winning by any means but I would give the perk a 4/5 in term of usability. I'd probably rank it somewhere between 10-20 perks you could use as survivor because of how much time it wastes from the killer especially back when pop goes weasel was a meta perk.

Blastmine is now risk vs reward perk though I don't think anyone will use it post-change since risk vs reward perks are usually total garbage in dbd.

dragon grip on other hand is completely useless because it has 90 second cooldown and 30 second activation window. In order to use this perk effectively, you need kick gen then sit near a gen for 30 seconds to get instant down with 2 minute cooldown. If it fails, you accomplished nothing. Its mostly meme perk that some people use with Insidious where you kick gen then you go insidious. I've seen the perk once where the wraith kicked gen and stood still for 30 seconds. Other than that, I have never seen this perk do anything.

You have to be complete rank 20 new survivor to go down by this perk. I'm sure if you look at stats for how many instant downs this perk gives in a match, its probably averages like less 1 down per match like 0.20% instant down ratio.

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OMG maths isn't one of your strenghs, huh?

Blast mine stunns Killers for 4 seconds and kicking a Generator takes 1.8 seconds (2 seconds before the general Killer Buff). SO 4 + 1.8 = 5.8 or about 6 seconds. If you never kick Generators, you probably don't know how to play Killer (you sound like you play Killer, but you probably don't get many Kills due to being Gen rushed)... Yeah Ruin and other Regression Perks exist, but kicking is essential to win the game - now it's even more viable due to the instant 2.5% regression.

Dragon's Grip is not ment for Killers without mobility. You need to get back to the Gen ASAP, so it works great on Demogorgon, Wraith, Sadako, Billy, ... But not as good on Doctor, Huntress, Trapper, ... Some perks work well with some killers and some don't.

This has to be an interaction with Ada's perk, Wiretap, that they ddin't want to happen.

I'm assuming the nerf was regarding the aura reading trivializing better together. That and they probably want all gen trap perks to be more uniform as a way to define them amongst the other perks.

No offense but has anything in this forum in the last six months been applied to the actual game? I can hardly blame people for feeling like they are being censored when it's just thrown in here.

Sure officially it's not hidden but the numbers would surely tell you how many people actually look at the feedback forum and you say other forum users can't make changes but some of the biggest complaints (solo queue, tunnelling, camping) that have been on going have been basically left as they are despite loads of good ideas. So while nothing changes if it's being posted in general, nothing changes if it's posted in feedback AND it falls on deaf ears as well.

Granted I'll be honest, there's a fair amount of well um... junk... here but there's a lot of great ideas that don't get used to deal with common problems that get talked about in general EVERY day.

I check the discussions tab rather then general discussion so I see everything but I've got a really solid idea coming up that 'should' go in creations but the last time I did that one person replied. Someone else put a (much) less detailed thing of the same post in general and it got a much larger response until it was moved into feedback where it was left to rot.

People honestly want to be heard, it doesn't matter by who or what but it's incredibly disheartening putting effort into an idea and it just gets ignored.

Used to be one of my favorite perks, equipped on almost every survivor. I saw it as something that, while functionally useless, was just comedic and felt good to show teammates which gen I'd been working on. I've now gone and removed it from everyone. Just like Iron Will.

It's one of the reasons why Repressed Alliance is so bad. It takes too long to activate and it's gone once used.

No, you misunderstood, I think they nerfed it because the perk is hard to bypass for killers who don't use Surge/Jolt, they have to hit Mine in the face, and with Ada's aura perk, they have no choice to disable the perk. I think that was the real reason.

Really hope they revert this change. This makes no sense. Who was complaining about blast mine?

Probably someone got salty that survivors could put it back on it and complained to BHVR so they nerfed it lol

Or more likely, it was a salty dev playing killer and complained to the rest of the team lol

Salty devs, probably

As a killer main who occasionally plays survivor, I can genuinely say that the one thing that has made playing survivor even an ounce of fun for me was the addition of blast mines. But this nerf really just makes the perk completely useless at this point and stops my desire to play the survivor role dead in it's tracks.

Too many times, if I set the blast mine when I see the killer coming close and then hide/run away, the killer simply ignores the generator and chases me all across the map until he's hooked me, and by that point, the mine has already deactivated (even if he did go back to kick it afterwards.) And because so many killers use perks like Jolt which lets them regress gens automatically, they never even bother to take that detour to kick the gen anyway. With flashbangs and flashlights, when you use them on the killer, there's a very good chance that they'll work in your favor since it depends on your own skill in either when and where you dropped the flashbang or your abilities in aiming the flashlight. With the Blast Mine, it's entirely luck based depending on if the killer themselves decides to kick the generator instead of first pursuing the Survivor.

The fact that you could reset it if the killer never touched your gen gave you an opportunity to maybe get some use out of it. Especially considering how long it takes to enable the perk to begin with. I could see ways to fix this issue, such as:

1. Blast Mines taking less times to build, like maybe if it took 50% of a gen instead of 66% to build one, or
2. If you could stack more than one Blast Mine in your inventory at a time and thus start the progress towards a acquiring a second Blast Mine immediately after the first one is created, or
3. If you could begin the progress towards a new Blast Mine the moment the first one is set (rather than after it explodes/times out.)

I feel like any of these options could make the perk somewhat useful again, but as it stands now after this change, it's pretty much a worthless perk. And that's unfortunately because I was starting to enjoy playing Survivor on occasion.

i support everything about what you all wrote here, i also wrote something about it, i want my perk back ):