Do you think TOXIC behavior deserves REV CAMP?

thoughts?

Comments

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,307
    For myself I don't, it all depends on the mindset of person who is playing, it's not a poll question it's a personal way of thinking.

    It's not a wrong thing to do they can play how they wish, I laugh at the edgaralanbro's flex cam every time I see it.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    What exactly is rev camp?

  • OrionsFury4789
    OrionsFury4789 Member Posts: 637
    edited February 2019
    BuffNurse said:

    thoughts?

    No I don't think it it does deserve that, you're hurting yourself more in points and pride because you threw the whole game for one survivor instead of playing the game normal , he won because he got in your head 

    But  if I were playing LF and I saw two survivors hook swarming before I can get away from the hook I would anyway  , that's just playing it  smart when 3/4 of the team are in front of you and won't leave , but by all means if the survivors aren't right there just leave the hook ffs lol it will reward you much better to keep a good pace and keep going for the hooks than to stand there and get gen rushed, it doesn't matter if some people view it as toxic or not , do what wins you the game that's all that matters 


  • IamFran
    IamFran Member Posts: 1,681
    Camping is boring and give the team advantages (except the camped one of course). I think a hard tunneling is better. 
  • SadonicShadow
    SadonicShadow Member Posts: 1,146

    From a practical stand point no if your goal is to win or get more points. However if i am feeling up to it and i dont care about points or winning i will chainsaw facecamp someone for the lulz.

  • venom12784
    venom12784 Member Posts: 666
    I had a game where a Meg t bagged me I camped her let her friend get the hatch. After the game told them t bag = camp and then told them they did a good job
  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    Master said:

    What exactly is rev camp?

    I’m assuming “revenge”
  • SlothGirly
    SlothGirly Member Posts: 1,146

    @Paddy4583 said:
    Master said:
    What exactly is rev camp?

    I’m assuming “revenge”

    I believe it means reving LF's or Billys chainsaw infront of hook

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    Camping is boring.
    More importantly, no behaviour is toxic. Swallowing bleach, that's toxic.
  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    Camping is just a crap tactic for an easy win. The irony is that people have been saying it's detrimental to the killer, but camping the first person to death is basically auto-pip/win nowadays.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160

    @Eninya said:
    Camping is just a crap tactic for an easy win. The irony is that people have been saying it's detrimental to the killer, but camping the first person to death is basically auto-pip/win nowadays.

    I highly recommend you to have a close look at the Emblem System, I would really appreciate it:

    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Emblems

    With the informations available, it's rather simple to create an excel sheet to calculate your emblem progression. I already did this a few months ago, in case you're interested:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jKY3nH8xMlTWWk4DGM8yFrEx05QFfhplMpAmHM0Y1C8/edit#gid=1855313185

    With this sheet you can easily calculate your emblems. You can simulate a match against a camper and see the results they would get.

    On top of that, let me show you this short, old clip to demonstrate how flawed the Emblem System is (still up-to-date regarding progression):

    3 full sacrifices and one bleed out -> Safety Pip

    In other words; No, camping doesn't give you an autowin / pip and it seems like you have no idea how the Killers Emblem System actually works.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Many killers don't care because it means ranking up slower and not getting put with the sweatys as fastn

    Besides its fun to camp them and ruin their game. You dont have to hard camp, just stay in the area and tunnel them as soon as they're unhooked. They try to ruin the game for other people by being toxic so you make sure the game is ruined for them instead.

    Hopefully at some point they will learn that its not worth being an ass when playing.
  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,746

    if you want to camp, there are perfectly good woods out there to go put up your tent :D i agree with others, it is boring....

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    @EntityDispleased said:
    Nah, hardcore tunnelling is the best. It gives you time to apply pressure and at the same time giving your tunnelling victim a false sense of hope along with feeling like they've been targeted or bullied, which is pretty much what they tried to do to you :]. This yields the most amounts of DCs and a lifetime supply of salt in my experience.

    Such a lovely approach. I like you :)

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,456

    @EntityDispleased said:
    Nah, hardcore tunnelling is the best. It gives you time to apply pressure and at the same time giving your tunnelling victim a false sense of hope along with feeling like they've been targeted or bullied, which is pretty much what they tried to do to you :]. This yields the most amounts of DCs and a lifetime supply of salt in my experience.

    Agreed. SWF players enjoy being tunnelled the most. Target those.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,222

    Most of the time survivors laugh at you for camping. So you're only giving them what they want if they were trying to be toxic.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2019

    @thesuicidefox said:
    Most of the time survivors laugh at you for camping. So you're only giving them what they want if they were trying to be toxic.

    Then how come they are so salty afterwards? According to your logic, I provided a funny experience to them so why are they complaining about it :^)

  • BACKSTABBER
    BACKSTABBER Member Posts: 1,809

    @BuffNurse said:
    thoughts?

    Toxic behavior deservers BPs!

    • pointing at a killer (key 1) after got pallet stunned: 500 BPs
    • t-bagging killer depending on the distance 30-100 BPs
    • body blocking killer 100 BPs
    • reverse pallet stun: 2000 BPs
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  • e8Lattice
    e8Lattice Member Posts: 189

    @George_Soros said:
    Camping is boring.
    More importantly, no behaviour is toxic. Swallowing bleach, that's toxic.

    If ones ultimate goal is to play matches with people in them, and every match your ever in has everyone leave because of ones 'toxic' behavior then your original goal is a failure and the consideration of ones understanding of what 'toxicity' is becomes worthy of self reflection and adjustment.

  • makayla
    makayla Member Posts: 287

    I don't care if people are toxic.
    Most of the time toxic people are too focused on bullying and they forget about the objective. Less people on gens, fine by me.

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,456

    @BACKSTABBER said:
    Toxic behavior deservers BPs!

    • pointing at a killer (key 1) after got pallet stunned: 500 BPs
    • t-bagging killer depending on the distance 30-100 BPs
    • body blocking killer 100 BPs
    • reverse pallet stun: 2000 BPs

    Lets also have points for the killer if they successfully down a t-bagger.
    Maybe also deduct a few points for survivors that don't respond to my "hello" t-bag.

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    @Funbag5 said:
    Everyone in here writes to much

    That's because most of us here don't have lives.

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,456

    @George_Soros said:
    That's because most of us here don't have lives.

    And people here are mostly:
    a) At work
    b) Sat in a lobby

    and probably a few:
    c) At work and sat in a lobby.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,222

    @PiiFree said:

    @thesuicidefox said:
    Most of the time survivors laugh at you for camping. So you're only giving them what they want if they were trying to be toxic.

    Then how come they are so salty afterwards? According to your logic, I provided a funny experience to them so why are they complaining about it :^)

    I mean they will still be mad, but the whole time you are camping they are telling their friends how bad you are and such, then their friends get away and they throw salt but still laugh because they still kinda won.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160

    @thesuicidefox said:

    @PiiFree said:

    @thesuicidefox said:
    Most of the time survivors laugh at you for camping. So you're only giving them what they want if they were trying to be toxic.

    Then how come they are so salty afterwards? According to your logic, I provided a funny experience to them so why are they complaining about it :^)

    I mean they will still be mad, but the whole time you are camping they are telling their friends how bad you are and such, then their friends get away and they throw salt but still laugh because they still kinda won.

    Perfect, you just explained what really happens behind the scenes when playing against a SWF.

    Thanks.

  • Marvett
    Marvett Member Posts: 159
    edited February 2019

    If you behave like a toxic player against a toxic player then you're not better than him.

    P.S.
    don't forget that it's a video game after all.
    Letting a video game negatively affect your mood means that you have no other stimuli outside of gaiming.
    (Obv I'm not reffering to you directly)

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2019

    @Marvett said:
    Letting a video game negatively affect your mood means that you have no other stimuli outside of gaiming.
    (Obv I'm not reffering to you directly)

    How did you come to that conclusion?

    Have you never played Mario Kart on N64 back in the days? Have you never played Tetris against someone else?

    Everything in existence can and will affect your mood, it's just a matter whether you allow it or supress it, but at that point the "damage" is already done.

    What you just said makes no sense to me. Even this post right here will affect you in. You get triggered because I question your logic or you think I'm just a stupid idiot but either way it affected your mood.

  • BACKSTABBER
    BACKSTABBER Member Posts: 1,809

    @BACKSTABBER said:
    Toxic behavior deservers BPs!

    • pointing at a killer (key 1) after got pallet stunned: 500 BPs
    • t-bagging killer depending on the distance 30-100 BPs
    • body blocking killer 100 BPs
    • reverse pallet stun: 2000 BPs

    Lets also have points for the killer if they successfully down a t-bagger.
    Maybe also deduct a few points for survivors that don't respond to my "hello" t-bag.

    Yep plz
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  • Marvett
    Marvett Member Posts: 159

    @PiiFree said:
    How did you come to that conclusion?

    Have you never played Mario Kart on N64 back in the days? Have you never played Tetris against someone else?

    Everything in existence can and will affect your mood, it's just a matter whether you allow it or supress it, but at that point the "damage" is already done.

    What you just said makes no sense to me. Even this post right here will affect you in. You get triggered because I question your logic or you think I'm just a stupid idiot but either way it affected your mood.

    My post was referred to "buffNurse",who create this thread.
    I did't even read your post honestly.
    If somehow you felt offended by my words I apologize.
    it was just my opinion, certainly not an absolute truth.
    Have a nice day ;)<3

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160

    @Marvett said:
    My post was referred to "buffNurse",who create this thread.
    I did't even read your post honestly.
    If somehow you felt offended by my words I apologize.
    it was just my opinion, certainly not an absolute truth.
    Have a nice day ;)<3

    No no, I don't feel offended at all but I'm just really curious.

    I mean if you really manage to not let anything affect your mood while gaming, that's impressive because pretty much everything affects my mood (regardless if it's in a game or elsewhere).

    That's why I don't understand the statement that no game should negatively affect your mood. It happens but it obviously makes me want to stop playing that game as a result^^

  • Marvett
    Marvett Member Posts: 159

    @PiiFree said:

    @Marvett said:
    My post was referred to "buffNurse",who create this thread.
    I did't even read your post honestly.
    If somehow you felt offended by my words I apologize.
    it was just my opinion, certainly not an absolute truth.
    Have a nice day ;)<3

    No no, I don't feel offended at all but I'm just really curious.

    I mean if you really manage to not let anything affect your mood while gaming, that's impressive because pretty much everything affects my mood (regardless if it's in a game or elsewhere).

    That's why I don't understand the statement that no game should negatively affect your mood. It happens but it obviously makes me want to stop playing that game as a result^^

    I used to let myself be negatively influenced by video games
    then I began to understand that it was not worth it.
    The problem was the lack of external stimuli.
    in short, I was too focused on video games that became my only stimulus.
    when I started to dedicate myself to something else, I automatically became a chill player (if you know what I mean)

    why?
    because other stimuli (ok I repeated this word 20 times) made me positive and they reduced every kind of frustration generated by videogames (another word that I repeated 20 times :p )

  • XavierBoah17
    XavierBoah17 Member Posts: 204
    Tunneling > Camping

    I hate tunneling way more then a face camp 
  • Detective_Jonathan
    Detective_Jonathan Member Posts: 1,165

    I got "flex cammed" one time by "popular" streamer EdgarAlan whatever the rest of his name is. Apparently the dude was mad because i used a window on suffocation pit and was the only thing i could utilize considering most of my team wasted all the pallets on the map. Don't see how it's toxic considering it's there for me to use to gain distance, which is what the whole point of this game is.

    People like to make rules in this game when their shouldn't be any rules at all besides the one the devs put in front of us. If you want to be toxic go on ahead, utilize whatever you can to get on the killers nerves, get in their head, Make them mad. Do whatever it takes, if the killer "rev" camps you, that is a sign you won, and you managed to make them mad to the point to where they see you as a threat.

  • Marvett
    Marvett Member Posts: 159
    edited February 2019

    @PiiFree said:

    @Marvett said:
    My post was referred to "buffNurse",who create this thread.
    I did't even read your post honestly.
    If somehow you felt offended by my words I apologize.
    it was just my opinion, certainly not an absolute truth.
    Have a nice day ;)<3

    No no, I don't feel offended at all but I'm just really curious.

    I mean if you really manage to not let anything affect your mood while gaming, that's impressive because pretty much everything affects my mood (regardless if it's in a game or elsewhere).

    That's why I don't understand the statement that no game should negatively affect your mood. It happens but it obviously makes me want to stop playing that game as a result^^

    I used to be negatively influenced by video games
    then I realized that it was not worth it (I mean, video games are created to be enjoyable.. not to get mad).
    The problem was the lack of external stimuli.
    In short,I was too focused on video games, which became my only stimuli.
    When I started to dedicate myself to something else, automatically I became a chill player (if you know what I mean).

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160

    @EntityDispleased said:
    I believe he means affecting the overall mood of the day. Like if a bad game left you feeling like ######### and that extends out to the rest of the day, that means you don't have much else other than games to take up your time. If for example you would play like 2 hours, then you'll be going out with friends or going to play a sport for example, the game becomes a tiny part of your life to the point where if you would have a horrid experience you won't be phased at all by it because you have other bigger and better things to do.

    I see, in that case yes they're right. I meant "not affecting the mood" during the experience, I have no choice but to let it affect me "somehow", for that short period of time it happens.

    Like getting dodged 20x in a row as solo Survivor I obviously start to get pissy. Getting flashlight blinded and DS'd several times a match obviously gets me pissed aswell, but naturally that's just a momentary mood.

    Pretty normal I guess, otherwise there wouldn't be hundreds of threads here about campers, tunnelers, gen rushers, loopers and lobby dodgers :P ultimately all the result of a negative mood due to ######### gaming experiences.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    @PiiFree said:

    @Eninya said:
    Camping is just a crap tactic for an easy win. The irony is that people have been saying it's detrimental to the killer, but camping the first person to death is basically auto-pip/win nowadays.

    I highly recommend you to have a close look at the Emblem System, I would really appreciate it:

    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Emblems

    With the informations available, it's rather simple to create an excel sheet to calculate your emblem progression. I already did this a few months ago, in case you're interested:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jKY3nH8xMlTWWk4DGM8yFrEx05QFfhplMpAmHM0Y1C8/edit#gid=1855313185

    With this sheet you can easily calculate your emblems. You can simulate a match against a camper and see the results they would get.

    On top of that, let me show you this short, old clip to demonstrate how flawed the Emblem System is (still up-to-date regarding progression):

    3 full sacrifices and one bleed out -> Safety Pip

    In other words; No, camping doesn't give you an autowin / pip and it seems like you have no idea how the Killers Emblem System actually works.

    He didn't rank up? That sounds exactly like what every killer on this forum wants. That clip is useless: It doesn't show the match, just that hardly anyone got any points.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,160

    @Eninya said:
    He didn't rank up? That sounds exactly like what every killer on this forum wants. That clip is useless: It doesn't show the match, just that hardly anyone got any points.

    ...no, as you can see, I didn't rank up...

    It shows exactly the opposite of what you said, that was my point. Whether I wanted to pip or not is irrelevant, it means your statement was false. If you camp, you won't get "free pips / wins" because it takes a lot more than just a few kills to pip.

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