Remove or Nerf Judiths Tombstone

By the time it procs like 4 gens will be done and you can just locker. The myers also has to use 2 iri addons and throw his points. I am very surprised your talking about this addon when tombstone piece is so much stronger and consistent and only takes 1 addon slot and no perk slots (judiths basically has to be run with play with your food).

Nurse range addons should have been fixed already with the last chapter.

This is also a bad argument, because the existent of other addons that should be nerf doesn't mean we should ignore this one.

It is a bad argument. We shouldn't ignore unhealthy stuff in the game just because it's attached to a weaker killer. Myers needs basekit adjustments and an addon overhaul. He should get those things regardless if Blight's addons have been touched. DBD is constantly being updated so it doesn't really matter if 1 thing gets adjusted before the other.

Moris got changed before keys did. Both were unhealthy and they both got changed

For the time being, we should ignore tombstone because it will take more time to bring myers to a fair spot than it will to adjust broken blight and spirit addons (nurse addons on the other hand will take awhile because they need a total rework).

Honestly you'd expect them to be thankful it was ONLY a hook state he's taking and not their life

Mayers is unfair in a way, that chances of you escaping are determined by the weakest teammate in your team (well it's unfair only if it is not you). The addons DO have counterplay. Usually meyers with tombstone+infinite T3 is able to pop said T3 at last 1-2 gens. If we are lucky, nobody gets caught. If we are less lucky, one person will go to hook and it will be probably too easy for him to camp him out to death (3 out). If we really screwed up, we loose (4K).

But that is miles better and more enjoyable then getting any random range-addon starstruct+agitation nurse. Mayers should be changed because it feels unfair. But it's such a low priority compared to all the other problems in game.

Tombstone piece you are safe at least.

I think they'll stay how they are because they want myers to stay to his lore on being able to instant kill survivors. that is running theme behind mori-based killers is that their fantasy in dbd gameplay is compromised for the sake of being more lore accurate.

my main dislike behind mori's for myers and pig specifically is how -unpreventable- they are. I just feel like these killers do not feel like they have build-up to earning a mori. The premise that you have to line of sight myers for the entire game feels unrealistic to dbd gameplay for survivor. Its same for pig. you just follow the normal gameplay loop of a killer and mori naturally occurs automatically from rng jigsaw boxes. I feel like these two mori's take away from survivor gameplay instead of add to the gameplay because the expected way to counter these killers is to flawless the game by not going down. that's why these killers have weak chases because they devalue the hook-state system so your expected to flawless the game against them.

its because pig RBT are not meant to be reliable mori's. They're first about slowdown, then about mori's. the mori is highly map dependent and somewhat rng-based. I think pre-work RPD was her most consistent map to mori someone because most players got lost in the map pathing for old RPD to get to jigsaw boxes and then there is just big maps that increase walking distance between each box so your more likely to get mori'd. I am not sure what odds are to get a mori, but I think you can get a mori every 1/4 or 1/5 games. something like that.

As i said, I think the dev consider mori mechanics as fair way to gain kills and they balance around them(by making the killer terrible at every other category besides mori).

RBTs were hybrids, they maintained both lethality and slowdown capabilities and precisely because you can either take it off in firist attempt or die trying on 4 (especially on large maps), RBTs were never a problem/issue, because they depended on RNG, so as in the character's LORE, and it was her most precious asset and justified the character doesn't have any chase power.

The only problem was always the video tape addon that allowed her to keep the lethality without even touching the game (AFK), and that deserved the nerf, since she didn't need to do anything for that (survivors start game with RBT).

Anyway, devs ruined her entire base kit and turned the RBT's into pure slowdown, no longer worth investing in lethality addons, when the right thing to do would just nerf only the problematic addon and listen a portion of the community that also asked for the RBT's not to be removed on firist try, creating a pure slowdown addon to mimicking the mechanics of "five box and 12 global attempts", decreasing the RNG and lethality. Now is pure slowdown + no lethality + no chase power.

It's only 3. Each survivor has 10.1 worth of stalk.

It takes 5 stalk to go from T1 to T2, 5 stalk to go from T2 to T3, 10 stalk due to Tuft, 10 stalk due to Judith's for a total of 30 stalk points.

I agree that is an addon very luck based and very unfair and unfun. I think the only reason they didn't fixed it it's because Myers is a weak killer that need a buff and maybe thay are waiting the right moment to buff the killer but nerf the addon.

Which don't equal to 30s stalk in experience but more like 40-50 depending on the distance.

Because there is always people who think it is unfair that someone got stalked and they have to pay for it. But this is how Myers works: one weak link is all he needs.

Then there are people who still don't know that feeding Myers is a BAD idea. They probably only know that he's a "weak, loopable M1 killer" and they never really expect him to be a threat. When I started to play this game 4 years ago, my first killer main was Myers and I quickly understood that. Survivors don't look around, they camp pallets and they tbag. All feeds Myers.

People don't understand anymore how to position themselves on gens to fight a Myers before they even know if they face one or not, because he's so rare nowadays. I had to learn to always expect a Myers back in the day. No information perk could detect him in Tier 1. Not even Spine Chill. So you just positioned yourself at a Gen as you'd play vs a Myers. In a way that he a) couldn't grab you b) you would see him approaching before he could stalk and c) have an escape route with LOS blockers. You were on high alert until you knew it wasn't him.

I have 5.3k hrs now. And I never had any problems facing any Tombstone Myers. I never thought that it was unfair or similar. Fighting Myers is a team effort and when you don't accept that, the team will perish.

Simple.

Myers will also derank if he doesn't hook someone and maybe won't even get the BP for the addons back.

I really don't understand what's it with survivors nowadays who are not able to starve him. How difficult is that?

What if they could only kill injured survivors? That way, you just heal against it and it'll force a down.

Myers add ons are fine he has to work for them and survivors can easily counter them by going to locker. Nurse, blight and sprit who are 100 times stronger than myers has most broken add ons in game so if anything should be done those three add ons should be nerfed.

Tombstone piece is a much bigger threat and is more consistent, if your solo q team mates r feeding him stalk you would probably just lose to a myers who plays normally anyway.