Kill Switch update: Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.

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  • Jago
    Jago Member Posts: 1,742

    "No killers require 2 survivors to avoid an uncounterable down"'

    That's the main answer I have here : "go to a team mate."


    "if you don't screw up and decrease your timer by walking or slow vaulting"

    Yes, slow actions decrease the mend bar. It shouldn't be a reason for Snap Out to be a priority over it.


    "you're crying because it counters DH"

    I really don't, I was surprised because the 2 status effect conflict each other.


    "You were more than likely still going to be chased after using DH and going to get downed anyways"

    I won't go further because you're acting condescending with a Survivor VS Killer mentality : no thanks, have a nice evening.

  • Jplanas98
    Jplanas98 Member Posts: 534

    The reason you're getting the "go to a team mate" answer is because you're complaining about how Snap Out takes priority and don't like the other answers you're getting no matter how valid they are, but being told to go to a team mate gives you a reason to continue to complain because it fits your argument while the other solutions don't.

    If you're taking slow actions, then that should mean you're in a position where it should be safe to snap out and mend. If not, that's entirely your fault. If you know have a time limit why would you intentionally do something that would decrease that time limit if you know you then won't be able to mend yourself?

    "The 2 status effect HAVE NOT BE THOUGHT to work together with the recent patch" those were your exact words, and in your original post you even say "literally the ultimate counter to dead hard". It's very clear that you're upset about this because you now realize Doc can counter your Dead Hard. So, either you're now trying to back pedal, or you're losing track of your own comments.

    What did I say in that comment that was wrong? If you use Dead Hard on a Killer they're not suddenly going to stop chasing you, they're going to continue to chase you until you get downed. Nothing I've said has been a Killer vs. Survivor mentality, you just know you don't have a legitimate counter argument so it's easier to dismiss anything I say by saying I have a "Killer vs. Survivor mentality" than it is to admit that you're wrong.

  • Jago
    Jago Member Posts: 1,742

    '"either you're now trying to back pedal, or you're losing track of your own comments."

    The point is literally the same. It's just a shortcut to formulate it that way : Mend & Snap Out counter each other.


    "If you use Dead Hard on a Killer they're not suddenly going to stop chasing you, they're going to continue to chase you until you get downed."

    No. That's false.


    "Nothing I've said has been a Killer vs. Survivor "

    You keep talking to me like I enjoy Dead Hard like a precious ring + "you're crying" / "You'd go down anyway". Hypocritical.

  • Jplanas98
    Jplanas98 Member Posts: 534

    Point is the same, reasoning is different. You didn't make the post and state that it's the ultimate BT counter, or the ultimate OTR counter. You came to the conclusion of Snap Out taking priority being uncounterable because it's the ultimate counter to Dead Hard. Reasoning is just as important as your argument.

    So you're telling me that if you use Dead Hard the Killer will decide "this isn't worth my time anymore". In that case wouldn't that mean you are in a safe position and would then be able to both Snap Out and mend right after?

    I'm not talking as if you enjoy Dead Hard as a precious ring, I'm pointing out that you only came to this conclusion once you realized Doctor passively counters it after the recent change. "You're crying", I mean, you are crying about it. Multiple people have told you multiple ways to work around it, and have told you that it's an intended feature from the devs, and you refuse to accept any of those answers and continue to make the same argument. Also, if you think saying "you'd go down anyways" is a Killer vs. Survivor mentality, that say more about you. If you were slugged with a Killer standing over you and your team mate says "I would revive you, but you'd just get downed again anyways", does that make it a Killer vs. Survivor mentality?

    Again, you're still trying to nit pick minor things in attempt to dismiss anything I've said rather than face the possibility that you might actually be wrong. So much so that you even misquoted me, because I never said "You'd go down anyway". I said " You were more than likely still going to be chased after using DH and going to get downed anyways." One implies more that I'm saying you're bad, while the other implies that you would most likely go down eventually because you would continue to be chased.

  • Jago
    Jago Member Posts: 1,742

    "Point is the same, reasoning is different" -> the reasoning is implied. As you said, whatever its OTR, BT or DH, or Medkit, or SoulGuard or... Whatever. No need to say everything to create a discussion.


    "that mean you are in a safe position" -> Again, no, because the 2 status effects counter each other. I've walked to outplay the killer, BOOM I go down for it. Get it ?


    "Multiple people have told you multiple ways to work around it" -> doesnt mean they're right.


    "intended feature from the devs" & "passively counters it after the recent change"

    --> choose a side. Anyway, the recent patch has made this more obvious because mend is more common.


    Whatever mate, if you think that's fine & balanced because it's in the game, good. We have nothing to say to each other. Enjoy basekit UB, seems totally balanced and intended by the devs.