Things that HAVE to get addressed

What kind of debuff/penalty though? Maybe like a reverse thano for the killer, except it only applies when survivors are on the ground/slugged? would behavior in turn have to debuff survivor to keep it even?

Been playing DBD for 5 years and never heard of the term 'clubbing' before... did you make it up?

If the killer is not allowed to stay near a hook to secure a kill, then survs should not be allowed to sit on a gen with 3 ppl to secure it gets done.

One is ok, the other is not.

Just another entitled surv that probably hasnt ever Played killer and got 4 Minute genrushed.

If you facecamp from first hook and you manage to get more than 1 kill, the survs are just plain garbage.

Learn to loop, so you dont get camped 🙃

The thing is you can't punish 5-Gen campers without punishing those who camp at the proper time like at End Game. BHVR has already confirmed that both Camping and Tunneling are valid strats and they don't want to do something that punishes everyone as a whole.

The best we can hope for is to make it more desirable to leave the hook because if anyone has played Killer can tell you, going for a 12 hook even spread will not win you the game in most cases.

that's slugging

Fix the Map Designs 90% of the Maps are Survivor Sided Maps like the Game where u Need to break 30 Palets before the First hit shouldnt be in the Game

Well the game is not survivor sided. Take nemesis or nurse and you will understand. Or take legion with iri button and julie's mixtape + endurance + spirit fury and you will just loose. Same with wraith with brutal strength and 2 shadow dance addons for very probable loose. Or take huntress, trapper, or any other killer that can disable your loops (this includes a bit skilled slinger - who can ignore 50% of all pallets on this map) for insanely hard match. Or take mori-build onryo and prepare for your certain hard attack.

Then again, take (non-palet) freddy or oni for very easy game.

You would be surprised how often will the game screw you over as survivor. There's always problem with finding totems and generators on this map compared to most of other maps. It's very hard against some killers, because this map has very few loops without pallets (with windows).

Even some big killer mains changed their idea and consider this map killer sided. Together with midwitch, saloon, shelter woods and many other maps.

BTW maps in general can't be so bad, because otherwise survivors will not get 41% escape rate on avarage and 39% in high MMR.

I am mostly survivor main so I can say who destroys on those maps and who doesn't, but sure enough.

Very good slinger can hit thru pallet and go around them - it does not work on all of them, so I said 50%. Yet average or bad slinger will struggle (and I have maybe 2hrs on the killer).

As huntress - even if I am mediocre huntress at best. Just today I had 4k. Reason being, that dropping pallet next to huntress is 50/50 (and I would actually say it's like 70/30 for huntress if she can hit without getting pallet). If you really want bad map for huntress that contain a lot of pallets, check out RPD. You will see the difference immediately.

Trapper depends more on how good survivors are in noticing and if you find a team that actually follows him to untrap all his traps - but again, the map contains quite a few bottlenecks that usually contain god pallet - if you are able to trap them (and those traps stay), then you should get relatively easy game. But I will give you the fact, that I overshot and the match is not insanely easy.

For onryo - I don't have her, so I can't say from my personal plays. However I faced lethality onryo on the map before (so yes - this requires her iri addon, otherwise when played "normally", she will struggle). She can teleport almost constantly and with the map being so damn small, you will very soon find yourself in need of a tape. But you will get it only once or twice. After that, you get killed. Without ever being hooked.

So, you are basically saying:

You rarely play killer, you dont even own every killer, nor are you really good on playing killer.

Which means you are not playing against good survivors due to lack of playtime on killerside.

Yet, you still have the AUDACITY, to label killers as easy you havent even played yourself?

Maybe, just MAYBE, consider the fact you are not as good as a survivor as you think, which may be due to the fact you rarely play killer and therefore dont know their weaknesses...

You are the prime example of a surv main, crying for killer nerfs bcs he simply doesnt know or understand #########!

Dont talk about balance if you never stood on the other side of the scale!

It makes you look like a total idiot.

Case closed!

You predrop he destroys the pallet with iri button. You stun, you charge her power+spirit fury and gain little by enduring. Map contains almost no window loops. I ask you what CAN you do as survivor? Try it out and then talk.

Because high MMR killers don't hit survivors when they are animation stunned?

Maybe I play against good killer? Maybe as a matter of fact I am almost repeating what large killer mains (in this case Otz) said? Maybe you are blinded and biased? Case closed.