But comp also has limitations for the killer certain Addons are banned...? Also half the things you listed don't even work against plague... And there is still a huge difference between "competent players" and comp players... If you give a comp player one of those killers he will most likely whipe the floor with those guys in chase... Sure if they have 4 great medkits and insta heals it will be rough even for him but that would be rough for every killer regardless...

exactly. if youre playing with such a big advantage then the killer should know what theyre up against. its not like surv queues arent lightning fast anyways

something has to be done against swf and nurse, in the past you've clearly seen that even perks have to be nerfed because the two can abuse it

Awakend-Awar, can be abused with Starstruck (only by Nurse), what does bhvr do ? correctly not address the real problem (Nurse) but change the perk

boil over, was it an overpowered perk? never! but it was nerfed, but why ? simply because swf troops have abused it on certain maps, has bhvr addressed the real problem ? no, the perk also changed

If Nurse and swf are not prevented from abusing things at some point then more things will be changed and nerfed, Unbreakable basekit alone can never bring bhvr into the game, just like that because the swf troops will clearly abuse it and the solo q has to suffer, it's like in a group where a few people misbehave and everyone has to pay for it

this talk "if bhvr nerfs swf then the game will die" (wishful thinking not more not less) or "why should you be penalized for playing with friends?" Quite simply if the focus is on having fun with your friends, why does it bother you so much that the swf troops get a debuff on actions ? can't your little baby group bully more killers ? I'm in tears aww :/ the poor troops can no longer just bully all the killers except Nurse, Blight, Spirit

btw: I'm a main survivor, I have a lot of friends I can play with, but that's not why I just start twisting facts or even lying or how many here start making claims "that the game will dienn, if swfs get a debuffe" xD

Maybe they are in the future, all I'm saying is you claimed SWF changes are on the way because of Peanits' post, but his post is talking about Soloq buffs, not SWF changes.

Doesn't mean SWF changes won't be coming, I'm just pointing out your post wasn't really relevant to the OP.

Sorry for being argumentative.

Yes to some degree, but the OP is talking about nerfing SWF, the changes Peanits is talking about is buffing Soloq with information icons which will also buff SWF. That isn't what the OP is asking for lol.

Fair enough 👌

That depends on region and time of day. Most SWF in NA don't play until like 5-6pm. Knowing this killers would lobby shop or not play at all, either way resulting in those teams getting no match.

We need to reward & incentive and not punish.

I actually like playing against SWF.

1, they bring flashlights more often then solo - which usually results in free hits and nobody working on a generator.

2, chance of DC after hooking first person is way lower.

Also I can handle occasional loose. But let's be honest. Going forward from 6.1 it's quite easy to play killer even against 4-man SWF. Those buffs leveled the playing field drastically (that's also the reason why I will not touch soloQ any more until they fix it. Just yesterday a friend of mine said enough after loosing 7 games in a row. In soloQ. No wonder. I don't remember loosing 4 games in a row as killer. This alone should speak about if the problem is SWF or actually solo being way too weak right now).