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I hate killer adepts.
I'm sorry but what do you actually expect from me?
When you have 0 gen defense the game is over in like 4mins, 4mins is not long enough to get the requirements.
Doesnt matter if you down stupid fast because you get punished for that and it's still not enough to keep up with survivors doing gens.
All you have to do is keep playing games and hope you run into multiple very bad survivors who cant do gens and have no idea how to play...
I still dont get why this hasnt changed, you dont even have to change the achievements/trophy you can just bypass that by changing what a merciless is. It's not like emblems serve any purpose but "iv played this role abit so I get BP" so why not change it?
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It should really just be a 4k tbh. I never bothered with them anyway since I like making my own builds and a lot of teachables don’t synergise with their respective killers (2 of dredge’s perks become useless in nightfall)
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If they changed it to kills then a killer would use those strategies which survivors hate to get what they want. Tunnel and Camp.
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I mean, previously I thought that it should be 4 Sacrifices (back then when 1 Hook-Moris were a thing and using them for the Adept would be pretty cheap).
However, since you get reset back to Ash 4 every month, I dont think Killer Adepts are hard to get anymore. Most likely not in the first game, but when I dont even struggle to get them (at Ash-Ranks tho), other Killers will most likely not struggle as well...
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I usualy did my adepts but I think I gave up on them at this point.
It's difficult to do and very stressfull. You have very limited perk options, you have to use best addons and then hope you will get team that isn't great but they are also not baby Survivors since you can't end the game too fast as well. It has to be long game where you end up at the top idealy with all 4 kills. I just hate how stressfull it is and I have to play perks I don't want to run usualy.
Survivor adept on the other hand is easy. You can do it in one game just fine as long as you don't have unlucky game.
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Yeah that's the very old system where pips was just about hook stages and nothing else, good times lol
Agreed, I only do it so I can sit at 100% completion otherwise it will bug me just missing killer adepts
You mean like they have to now? Because let me tell you if a killer isn't playing slightly "scummy" and gets their adept you played absolutely dreadful and that killer is way above your skill
Yeah it's easy to get if you verse awful players I agree. But that dont happen often in my games and iv mention this before that some games can go so fast even with 9hooks 4k I dont get it....
That's just not fair, you cant have a system that punishes you for fast gens when you cant pick perks and also have the same system punish you if you down too fast. That's just not fair.
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Killer Adepts are one of my favorite things in the game. I don't run any other perks on a killer until I get their Adept challenge done. This helps me learn how to make the most of their power, and then I get an idea of how their perks can synergize with other perks. If I lose matches while I'm doing this, who gives a crap? I don't want to inflate my MMR rating on a killer that I'm only able to win with by using the strongest perks.
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Yeah I'm not a fan, but it will bug me too much not to get them since I have everything else.
Though alot of addons can hurt you if they making you down too fast as the chaser emblem doesnt reward you for really fast downs or insta downs.
You basically just have to play and hope you verse a team WAY below your skill and they dont do gens... so if you get a bad map and people do gens really fast you may as well just go AFK because you ain't getting it
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You're being fooled to think the adept is dependent on you when it's not.
Sure you can learn the power and sure you can get better with them but that doesnt matter with half the roster against any form of good team that does gens and loops.
Your adept relys with the survivors not doing gens, cant loop and make many mistakes
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This is what I've turned adept achievements into. I try out just their 3 perks with the killer without any add-ons, and practice them solely to get a feel for their power. That way I'm achieving two things - getting the adept, and practicing the killer/familiarizing myself with their perks.
That said, if you want a somewhat easier time, just wait until Grade Reset - getting Merciless is way easier in Ash grade than it is in any higher one.
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Dude just say "My adept relys with the survivors not doing gens, cant loop and make many mistakes" Own your own play experience, not everyone has the same issues that you do.
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If the MMR is working, then the next survivor you play against should not be as good as the one you just played if you tried and failed for the adept...
But no, well, you know.
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Happens, when you are a God at this game. Go down to the Level of us mortals and you will manage.
No, seriously, since you get set back top Ash IV there are so much less complaints about Killer Adepts. And you cannot really believe that all those players go against terrible Survivors all the time and you, only you, go against strong teams constantly.
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Next rank reset try to keep last 3-2 alive and keep slugging them again and again. Then you should get the adept. Tunneling might be good option too to get one quickly out and then you can stop gens getting proggressed.
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Probably because you dont play at a high level?
Didnt want to have to say that but if you truly believe adepts is just your skill and nothing to do with the survivors it's clear you dont play at the top.
Yes I know it's easier at ash, and I'm not saying I am the only one to go against good players nor am I saying it's the only thing I see so dont twist and strawman.
I am saying it sucks that the adept heavy relies on RNG of the survivors (bad survivors not doing gens and cant loop) more than your own actual skill and I dont like that.
I do have every adept, I'm just saying I dont like how it's just a dice roll till you are matched with a terrible team instead of being possible every match.
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Tunneling in a smart way is the best option, that slugging can actually hurt your emblems as the emblems punish you everytime they are picked up/healed.
Might not be much but it could be the difference between iri and gold. What you need to aim for is slow gens, 9hooks, 4k
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It's way more difficult than the survivor's adept, but it's not too bad.
Achievements aren't supposed to be easy. In this case it's the survivor's side that's wrong.
If you compare it with other achievements in the game, it's not even average in term of difficulty or effort required.
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I dunno all DBD achievements are easily except killer adepts (because it's just a dice roll if you verse bad survivors) and that one where you have to finish the last gen and escape through a gate as the last survivor (bloody annoying lol)
If it was an achievement that I could say "my skill and knowledge made this possible" or "this achievement was possible every match but it was my fault" I wouldn't mind, but fact is some matches it's just impossible because of the survivors and gen speed... and that's what I dont like.
I dont mind challenges, it's why I do stupid things in games like the dead spaces, evil withins, resident evils etc. On the hardest difficulties meanwhile killer adepts dont feel like my skill earned it, just bad survivors making it possible
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Evil incarnate, From the void she kills (or is it the other one), that one where you have to finish a gen all alone and exit by the door, ...
There are several difficult achievements that require both skills, luck and an opponent making a mistake. Long-range hatchets fall in that category.
There are a plethora of achievements requiring only luck.
Adepts require some skill and finding opponents that aren't too easy nor too hard.
(In my opinion of course)
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It should really just be "end a trail with the 3 perks with no survivor escaping though the gates"
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Ah the old "you don't play at a high level" defense. Looks like the real problem here is that your skills aren't high enough to do the Adept challenges without taking a few shots to your ego.
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You legit tried saying I'm no good... you said it's a me problem.
And if you could actually read half the stuff then you probably would understand.
I have the adepts, that dont take away the fact its luck of getting bad survivors not skill.
I dunno I'd be pretty embarrassed to lose to a adept killer because it's not hard to do gens or loop when they're so heavily restricted.
But you're right, you're the almighty God who can win any match against good survivors in games less than 5mins long. Best DBD player in the world!
Or maybe you cant tell who is good/bad in this game and dont understand how fast games go with efficient survivors.
But sure I'm the bad one, because getting 10hooks and a 4k but not getting it is definitely a me problem 👌👍
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I love killer adepts. It get you to understand killer mechanic and his personal perks. Also adept punish campers and tunnelers, which is awesome. I did all adepts and all was fun, some hard, some not.
Wanna see atrocious achievement? Go do "Outbreak breakout" :)
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I petitioned once to set killer releases to the 10-13th each month. This way we would have at least a fair shot to try for the adapt achievment right away. When the killer release these days, most of us killer mains are already deep into silver or even gold ranks, and have to wait some 3 weeks to get a fair shot at the adapt achievment ... or get really lucky with a potatoe team and STILL play like a possessed maniac.
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Actually it doesnt punish tunneling, it makes the adept easier (smart tunneling anyway) because you get easier downs and someone dead faster to reduce the efficiency.
And that achievement isnt hard? It's just long winded because you have to be on RPD and open the gate. Pretty strong map for survivors if you know the layout and can loop/push gens. Even after the change theres a few god pallets and safe pallets to use not to mention it's hard for killers to get around without wasting time
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Well yeah in theory, just lame you basically have to throw and just wait.
It's my issue with adepts that they just arent possible every game and you have to wait till you get a match with bad survivors.
Even though I have every adept, people love saying I'm bad because I have issues with how killer adepts force you to not verse players beyond a certain level
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Tunneling is very punishable by adept, because other three survivors DOING GENS! And you have no slowdown/second-chance perks to delay that process, so you have to apply pressure on all 4, like a pro. My adept matches 90% was very fun. I like when result, bad or good, is on me, not because someone else. You will say that map could be bad or team to strong, or other thing. But it's just how easy or hard it is, still interesting and fun. Unlike survivor adeps where you dependant on your "team".
And yes, "Outbreak breakout" is super hard. I'm literally grinding it since Wesker release and don't have much progress. Because:
- map offerings are scarce and already all burned
- rare occasion of RPD map in pool
- when it happens, someone probably DC or kill himself on hook
- if not, people don't do gens
- also killer must be not tunneler/camper (which is 50%)
- when miracle happen and all gens are done, it has to be YOU to open the door, not someone else
So, multiplying all probabilities you know how small number in the result?
It is very frustrating, like OP said, "what can I do"?
All my points in that achievement was when I'm the last and successfully do gate tech. Today had 3 RPD maps, no one ever survived, though couldnt say that killers were tournament masters. Definetely casual killers.
I would gladly do all killer adepts all over again for that RPD trash-achievement. 🙏
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Eh RPD one you'll get in time, like I said it's not like it's a bad map or anything and like you said you just have to hope someone dont give up which is just stupid in itself to have to say that... like seriously I dont get why so many people just give up but that also screws killer adepts.
And killer adepts are luck of who you verse, if you verse good players as most of the killers you wont win with bad perks. Too many safe tiles and gens are too fast.
Not saying I cant get adepts, I'm saying they arent fun or feel rewarding. I can play worse and get my adept while when I play far better I dont. Its massively dependent on the people you verse and the maps you go on, like I said if I can get 9-10hooks and 4k but not get it that's dumb.
You shouldn't be punished for fast gens and fast chases, fast chases and downs mean you did good and fast gens isnt up to you as not every killer has the map pressure required.
If you verse inefficient players who arent always on gens and dont loop well then yes adepts are very chill, but that's rng if you get those survivors
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You say you have every adept but complain that they are too much of a hassle to get. At this point you are only typing this crap out to add to your post count.
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Wait until grade reset then it’s ez
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i mean they do it regardless me included might as well give them the adept
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Survivors should have a requirement to reach in order to get an adept. Just having to escape is pretty lame compared to a killer having to basically have a perfect game. The fact that survivors can DC and any that escape still get the adept while a killer is screwed if a survivor DCs is kinda BS.
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No.
You shouldn't only give feedback because you can't do something.
Just because I have all adepts doesn't mean they couldn't benefit from a change to make them more realistically fair and obtainable without having to lower mmr or keep playing till you verse bad survivors and/or grade reset.
I can suggest changes no matter what, if anything someone who actively does the achievements can give a better feedback than someone who doesnt.
If you only leave feedback because you cant do something you're doing feedback wrong.
Edit: my post count probably wouldn't be so high if I didnt need to reply to silly comments like your or repeat myself as people cant read.
I have a lot of posts because iv been around a long time and post count means nothing so what does that even matter...
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The part where killer adepts need chases and gen defence and sacrifices (with multiple hooks) and random other stuff to fill up the 'I am pressuring you and being malicious' one is just weird. Sure, it gets tied to the monthly reset, which is something, but...? It doesn't challenge you to do your main goal as a Killer with only their perks, it's a random checklist.
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Yeah it's why I wish they just changed it, making it a 3/4k by any means seems better.
Makes it less RNG and doesn't punish you for downing too fast etc. Not to mention the games based/balanced of kills so those is basically saying "win as X killer with their perks" just like survivor is
Just feel these achievements should be more enjoyable and reasonable.
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