We need to NERF these two killer perks ASAP

1) NOED (No one escapes Death) perk can be prevented by not having any totem availible when Exit Gates are powered. It can be also easily destroyed if you wait like 30 seconds, it will reveal itself (the totem) within 24 meters from any Survivor.

2) Dead Man's Switch perk will not tell you where anyone is directly. They have to first be kicked / leave the gen. Popular combo (overated) is paired with Pain Ress which blows the gen with the most progress and then Dead man will reveal the gen WITH most progress (1) being hit if anyone was repairing on it. This can be very easily prevented: Let go of the gen the second you see someone being hooked. Or just don't repair until the Survivor is hooked. Here, done. Without Killer forcing you out of the gen or someone letting go of it, Killer has no value and no info from this perk. It's really not that strong. It's only good because Survivors let it be good (don't leave the gen, not paying attention, etc.)

been a bit since I saw a noed complaint

Eruption should just entity block the relevant gen. Affects everyone equally then, doesn't regress, Killer can't go back and stack extra regression on it.

True, but someone else can tap the damn thing and then boom another kick. I also think Jolt can get a regressing gen, but I might be remembering the interactions wrong.

(Blocking it also means that the time where it can't be worked on doesn't have regression, which at least alleviates the extra ~6s of work needed from an incapacitated survivor not being able to stop regression)

a perk requiring a set up and a down and it doesn't even tell you what gen is being worked on like you said = no skill

and a perk that has in intense effect when it is first revealed, has a status effect on the hud and literally shows its aura to you so you can cleanse the totem and deactivate it and you're still having trouble noticing it???

although i agree these perks are a problem i don't think you should be talking about skill when you yourself seem unaware of what you're talking about.

NOED effects those Survivors whom only want to go the Gens... So stop focusing on Gens and cleanse Totems

Eruption makes the Killer kick Gens to get anything out of it... 10% plus .25 charges per second for 25 seconds equals about 10 or so seconds of repair

And if it were changed to block Gens it wouldn't be as powerful as it is right now...

Blocking the gens- no more regression after the 10% is knocked off

But I figured that if the Gens were unrepairable for 25 Seconds... the Survivors can still heal, cleanse and unhook

"It should effect the obsession only"

That's literally just rancor lol

Eruption can just be changed to a difficult skill check like overcharge

When eruption activates, it does immediate 10% of 90s gen which is 9s. Normal regression is 0.25c/s. It's 25s when you can't touch it. Meaning 0.25*25=6.25s regression. And then there's 25s when you can't work on a gen. So to be precise, it's not 40s. It's 40.25s of regression just by hitting single survivor.

Now imagine it does hit 3 survivors. That's immediate 4/3 of gen or 120.75s worth of regression. Quite strong right? Show me one other perk that can potentially slow down gen progress by 2 minutes just by activating once (and can do so multiple times). That's why people complain about the perk so much.

Honestly, both perks would be fine if SoloQ received the buff they VERY much need, like status icons on the hud. That way you can see when a teammate is in chase etc.

Eruption actually forces the killer to walk away kick gens, and then continue to find/chase/down a survivor, so by itself it's an okay perk because it has requirements. Although I don't think that it's ability should be able to sync with other perks, like DMS/PR etc.

I think noed is much better than it was. I don't think it needs a change nearly as badly as eruption. These two perks are on completely different levels.

Then again, if you are seeing noed every map that says more about where you are in MMR than anything (you are probably low-mid tier). Learn where totems spawn. Look for it while someone else is working on the door. Also, stop expecting that you should escape every match. The closer you get to cap MMR the more you will die unless you are playing in a 4 man SWF with comms. That's just a fact. I expect a 25% escape rate at this point, and that is pretty accurate. By that I mean some survivors in the group will escape one out of every four games. Other than hatch, the other three games are very likely to be four kills. The killer that has escapes is almost always one of the few that choose not to play the metas. The other three are always using some combination of the meta perks eruption, call of brine, jolt, overcharge, dead man's switch, pain resonance, and sloppy butcher, mostly depending on which ones work best for the killer they are playing.

Ok

Eruption needs the incapacitation time tweaked. If it was 10s of time, it would be fine. Explosion and blocking the gen would be stronger, but would effect SWF equally (which means it won’t happen).

Are we still complaining about NOED after so many years, when the totem literally lights up like a beacon?

NOED is fine. Just do bones or, cleanse it once it reveals itself after 30s after the initial notification. And if the totem is at the hook and the killer camps? Just leave.

Eruption needs tweaks so that it doesn't destroy SoloQ or Duo players and still effects full SWFs.