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Crow'd when Hiding from Killer

So I had a game where it was just me and the killer left, with 1 gen, hatch is closed, and I wasn't about to give up because I'm stubborn. So Im stealthing in the game because obviously looping the killer wont do ANYTHING for me, and I try to tap a gen when I can but he started circling the area very tightly, making it IMPOSSIBLE for me to even move anywhere for at least a minute or so and of course I get crow'd and my position is given away, I'm #########.

Its not often this happens, but it make me realize that if it does come down to where your only stradegy to survive is to hide, it seems a little unfair that you're going to be given away by the game. Yes I know survivors can "hostage" a game by hiding, but this wasn't the case. It was my only way to potentially even win--and the killer was literally within 10m of me the ENTIRE time. Its not like I was hiding in the corner of the map. It feels a little unfair to literally HAVE to hide so you DONT die, and the game punishes you for hiding anyway by revealing your position.

What can I do in this situation? Because I tried thinking back to what I could of done differently and short of making a break for it and somehow turn into a looping GOD and escaping a chase and re-hiding I have no way out of this. The game seems to really favor those who can loop over any other play style. Any advice? At the time, I didn't se any other viable option for me except to hide and try to finish the gen and open gate a la stealth mode.

Comments

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 3,065

    Funny enough hiding in the first part of the game is sometimes better than going for a chase. But in a 1v1 scenario the killer should win most of the time especially if gates are in their favor.

  • UnluckyDucky
    UnluckyDucky Member Posts: 330

    up to teh C? I can't say I ever tried that before, I 'll have to give it a go!

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    These are fringe scenarios that unfortunately will happen from time to time, but with how often survivors go AFK in a locker to BM when they are losing the game, AFK crows are needed.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813
    edited December 2022

    Sorry I skimmed your post and misunderstood lol. Yes idle crows can be annoying and impossible to avoid in certain situations

  • UnluckyDucky
    UnluckyDucky Member Posts: 330

    it was just me, and i still had gens to do and there wasn't hatch for me to escape out of. i couldnt move anywhere bceause killer wouldn't leave like the 10m radius if i moved he'd see me and i'd of been dead instantly. only reason i was still alive because i was hiding, and i couldnt run, but because i hid too long crows started flying and gave away my position

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Did you have that match like 4 years ago and decided to wait untill now to complain about it?

    The situation you are discribing can't happen.

    If you are the last person against the killer and the hatch is closed the gates are powered automatically

  • xfireturtlex
    xfireturtlex Member Posts: 419

    Yup, just make sure none of the lights come on. As long as they don't have No Way Out they'll never know you touched it and it cuts like 5 seconds off the time to open.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,357

    not just that you don't need to do a gen, you can't do a gen - the remaining uncompleted gens are blocked.

  • xfireturtlex
    xfireturtlex Member Posts: 419

    Indeed. Also, hi Mandy and happy holidays. That is all =)

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,429

    "it was just me, and i still had gens to do"

    Then the hatch was open.

  • MeanieDeeny
    MeanieDeeny Member Posts: 533

    This is so confusing. You said hatch was closed. So then you literally did not have the option of doing gens. So the rest of the what you wrote … ?


    Tbh, I’m not trying to discredit your story, but let’s say hatch wasn’t closed…I’ve only ever seen a survivor still try to work on gens, with all teammates dead and option to try to escape in like 2% of every match I’ve ever played. It’s just an unlikely scenario.

  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,097

    As an aside to this, I kind feel idle crows shouldn't activate while you are in the presence of the Terror Radius. There have been matches where I haven't been able to move too much (mainly against killers with one hit downs like Bubba, Billy, GF and Michael) because someone else has been being chased consistently in the immediate area (I WILL try and move and even take a hit for M1 killers). But this just seems like an imbalanced part of the game.

  • Archael
    Archael Member Posts: 842
    edited December 2022

    As for the story. There are some bugs: Scenario with 1 surv, 1 gen and closed hatch is just impossible. One of this statement have to be false.

    If hatch was closed by the killer, then there is 0 gens. If hatch was not opened, then its more than 1 surv, and if there is 1 surve and more than 0 gens to do, then the hatch is open.

    But as for the point of the story, wether it is true or not:

    Yes, idle crows should shows up only if surv is Idle for set time OUTSIDE terror radius. If surv is inside terror radius, no countdown of afk for that surv should started. If killer wont move and thus terror radius do not move, then its killer responsibility to try to find the survivor, not the game. If killer is actively looking for survivor, and survivor decided to not move, then crows should appear.

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  • James4125
    James4125 Member Posts: 266

    So as I understand it you were in a game that you had already 100% lost and you were unhappy that you were unable to take that loss that you had already definitely lost and somehow still win?

    Here's your solution...

    Wait for it...

    Don't lose.

  • Parallax
    Parallax Member Posts: 273

    Unless they changed this then idle crows don't spawn if you gesture (point or beckon)

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,571

    Honestly, I think that if there are two survivors left then AFK crows should start to accrue if a gen isn't touched within a reasonable time frame to eliminate survivors holding the game hostage. If there's more than 1 gen left and only two survivors you've already lost more than 95% of the time. There is no winning. Get what BP you can from gens and move on.

    As a side note, why is it there are some people who will DC or give up on hook because 'there's no point' when the match is too early to tell and then will stall out the game as much as possible and hide to get the other survivor killed so as to get hatch when there is actually no chance of winning? Selfishness on both counts?

  • DEMONANCE
    DEMONANCE Member Posts: 800

    i am very confused it feels like a time traveller from 2016 posted this.

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 2,993
    edited December 2022

    It's power thing. Killers often power trip (even giving hatch is a power trip), but suvs have their own ways of making themselves feel like they're in control. DC'ing/suiciding on hook are examples (it's like saying "I'm choosing to leave, you're not removing me" - especially notable when you're about to be hooked for the third time, which generally makes zero sense), and so is hiding.

    DbD was not designed to be a hide and seek simulator, and simple hiding from the killer is one of the easiest things to do in the entire game. But it is also a means of wielding a form of power over the killer.

    So those two things seemingly oppositional things serves the same purpose in that regard.

    And yes, both are pathetic and childish. Saying "there's no point" is just a flimsy rationalization.