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Why does a +18 game have a profanity filter?

Aceislife
Aceislife Member Posts: 450
edited December 2022 in Feedback and Suggestions

And an unbelievably sensitive one at that... There should be an option to disable it. Theres a report system for a reason, if you're so sensitive you can't handle somebody saying something to you on the internet, you can literally just ignore what they're saying, or log off/block them. You can't even speak regularly, as it censors a lot of regular words too.

Comments

  • MaTtRoSiTy
    MaTtRoSiTy Member Posts: 2,146

    I wish it was optional, I am a big kid now and I can handle naughty words and don't need an internet nanny to filter them out for me.

    Plus as you say, it is unbelievably sensitive and it censors the most absurd things that can make saying the simplest thing absolutely infuriating

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 5,312

    Its annoying cause it censors names so you cant communicate on which Survivor did what.

    If bHVR gave me a toggle, idd turn it off and never regret it.

    Besides if you abuse people in chat, bHVR really ought to ban you from chatting, simple as.

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,845

    You obviously haven’t been around before it was introduced. A very decent amount of forum threads were about end game chats and how toxic people were on there. This has drastically declined since then.

    of course, the filter is too sensitive and censoring very innocent words - even in-game names. That should be fixed. But some kind of filter is good and kinda necessary with the toxic community that we have. We don’t need people to tell others to commit suicide or wishing others death/ even making death threats - and that was sadly very common.

  • Mat_Sella
    Mat_Sella Member Posts: 3,557

    I could very easily show you why it exists, people can and will be horrendous when they have no ability to blame themselves for their own mistakes in a video game.

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 5,808

    I mean, as people already said, it exists for a very good reason. It does go way too far, and seems completely random, though.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    If it was only filtering profanities, then i wouldn´t have a problem with it. But its censoring all kinds of words that are not profanities and makes some conversations really hard.

  • not_requested49
    not_requested49 Member Posts: 1,979

    Yeah usually that reasoning is for people trying to work around the filter and say stuff

    But I'm on ps4 so it really doesn't effect me lol

  • MaTtRoSiTy
    MaTtRoSiTy Member Posts: 2,146
    edited December 2022

    As Tsulan says here, if it filtered out naughty words well whatever I guess... but it doesn't. It makes having even a friendly post game chat impossible at times as you can't say the most innocent of things and for absolutely no logical reason. Its just so annoying to deal with I wish it was gone altogether

    Post edited by Rizzo on
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    No, no, the filter also censors normal words. Or does the german word for german have some sort of mad meaning i´m not aware off?

  • Sandwich_Jesus
    Sandwich_Jesus Member Posts: 266

    They should just slap a toggle on the chat filter, that way people that want the filter can and those that actually want to be able to read messages without them being censored to oblivion can.

    its a win for both sides, however I think bhvr would rather get rid of the chat entirely than have to implement a toggle option, just because it would probably be easier for them to with their weird code

  • not_requested49
    not_requested49 Member Posts: 1,979

    I know but the reasoning is that even normal words can be used to bypass the chat lol

  • not_requested49
    not_requested49 Member Posts: 1,979

    Why was ur post edited? I got a notification you mentioned me but I don't see it

  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 7,995

    As much as I also think this game's profanity filter is ludicrously over-sensitive, I do think it's somewhat missing the point to talk about how this game is rated 18. It's not really about "naughty words", in theory, it's far more about vicious insults and honest to god hate speech.

    It's not about players being sensitive, it's about cutting down on unacceptable behaviour by making it impossible to convey, or at least much harder. The filter we have goes wayyyyy further than that, for no reason, but the core idea is sound.

  • Stabby_Widdershins
    Stabby_Widdershins Member Posts: 485

    Honestly, the censor should only catch the Big No's (Racism, sexism, and such). And it should quietly auto-report when one of those is caught.

    Leave the more complicated ones (like full phrases or fancy spelling to dodge the filter) to players to report.

  • foodie
    foodie Member Posts: 437

    Certain words are illogically filtered while Russian profanities aren't. Russian insults are completely unfiltered and as someone who knows the Cyrillic alphabet a great thing to see...

  • MaTtRoSiTy
    MaTtRoSiTy Member Posts: 2,146

    I have absolutely no idea as I try to word things carefully as I know they can get offended by random things you would not expect

  • Monlyth
    Monlyth Member Posts: 982

    You know, I had a wholesome endgame chat for once because the enemy team had a Vittorio who was sandbagging his teammates, pointing to them with his flashlight and doing whatever he could to give them away. So in response, I killed him first. The endgame chat was one of the survivors saying something like "Vittorio was throwing", and I said "Yeah, that's why I killed him first".

    The game censored the word "Killed". In a game where the primary goal is killing people's virtual avatars, you are not allowed to say that you killed someone.

  • KrampusJumpscare
    KrampusJumpscare Member Posts: 71

    Its more like a mysterious filter

  • Caleegi
    Caleegi Member Posts: 410

    I wish it was optional as when i try to compliment someone there is a word that gets filtered out for no reason and its annoying.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    The game is rated mature. Why do we even have a profanity filter to begin with, when everyone is supposed to be an adult?

  • Chordyceps
    Chordyceps Member Posts: 1,715

    I recently had "sussy baka" get censored, and quite honestly I think thats ridiculous.

  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 7,995

    Hate speech, and vicious insults.

    Both totally acceptable targets for preventing, even for a game full of adults.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    I think it would be more efficient to just ban the people that do those things.

  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 7,995

    That's not an either/or scenario, though, you do both. Make it impossible to actually call people slurs, and then ban the people who try.

    People shouldn't have to deal with hate speech even if they know that person will be banned afterwards. Both is the right call.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    True, but this thread is about the filter that filters non slur words.

    Or do you know, why the german word for germany is censored?

  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 7,995

    Yes, but it's more specifically asking why a game that's rated 18+ has a filter in the first place, and OP even pulls the same "we're all adults can't you handle bad words" thing, so my take is still very very relevant.

    That being said, yes, this game's filter is way too aggressive for no reason.

  • Renfear
    Renfear Member Posts: 137

    C'mon, the filter is very important. You should be able to communicate without using the words, "Killer, Dead, Daylight, Mori, Meg, Dwight, Hag, Huntress, Pallet, and Somtimes."

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,336
    edited December 2022

    Honestly I wish more games used something similar to Steam's own system, or if the game is on Steam try to actually use Steam's system if possible.

    It's honestly the best one I've seen. Presets ranging from completely off through only blocking slurs and really nasty stuff, all the way up to blocking most everyday swears. But the real winner of a feature is the custom blacklist. Don't want to see "ez"? Add it there. For some reason don't want to see something as random as "lol" even? It's your list, add it if you want. Don't want it at all? Turn it off.

    Just seems like such a good and user friendly system. Seems like everyone besides the "nooo freedom of speech means you MUST SEE me type the racial slur in a video game!!!" ultraclowns wins.

  • Malkhrim
    Malkhrim Member Posts: 995

    Now watch as the devs ignore this thread, just like the huge pile of complaints about the bad chat filter they have ignored so far.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited December 2022

    There’s isn’t a good reason, it’s childish and hand holding. There’s already an option to turn off chat so this is unnecessary and should at least be optional. If people are that bothered by mean words they shouldn’t be on an 18+ game. Racism/threats and the such should be handled separately and banned accordingly. They’re the easiest thing to show proof of.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    That isn’t an equal comparison at all and in almost all games on the internet you have dealt with people talking trash. That’s just internet games. We toughen up and learn to deal with the fact that there are mean people in the world that will say mean things. We don’t need to cover ourselves in bubble wrap, that’s how you get a weakened immune system for a metaphor.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited December 2022

    There is nuance and we’re able to understand that 18+ isn’t a literal all encompassing statement. It’s disingenuous to take it so literally when we can understand as a culture there’s exceptions in what we generally accept. Your example is not generally accepted main stream nor in other games, my example is. Also I’d say thinking most those people out there actually wish you harm is generally a stretch. Most these people talking trash to us on the internet do not, they’re just trying to get a rise out of you, and it is it seems. You also implying that I want slurs thrown at you based on my opinion on censoring is extremely disingenuous and not true and you know it. I asked us to be allowed to “choose” if we want to see it, you are still allowed to have it hidden if you want. You’re strawmanning my point.

  • saintjimmy456
    saintjimmy456 Member Posts: 185
    edited December 2022

    Keep the profanity filter how it is. It is a refreshing change to play a game where I don't get called a r*t*rd or get told to kill myself.